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Garmel said:
B) We didn't have these mass killings even when full military weapons were legal. Blaming guns for something that is obviously a cultural problem isn't helpful.
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Have never heard a reasonable counterpoint to this fact. Guns were more prevalent in the lives of Americans long before these mass shootings became so common. I don’t know the answer but something in our societal fabric has changed specifically with young men. I personally think secularization has been a major contributor. Young men are losing their souls and the results are frightening.
 
Seattle Husker said:
The Dayton shooter had a drum that contained 100 rounds. He got off 41 shots and was dead in under a minute from the time he started shooting. 6 officers responded within 30 seconds and fired 58 shots within the latter 30 seconds to take down that ******.

Abolishing high capacity magazines should be a no brainer.
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I could go for that as well as background checks on every sale and a longer waiting period. It wouldn't stop all mass murders but it may stop some. The problem is the Eric Swalwells of the world that want to take all guns. Folks are hesitant to surrender any rights to the government because "certain people" feel like government intervention is the answer to most problems and will slowly usurp the right to bear arms, which is an actual right unlike most of the rights Libs fabricate.
 
I have always been a proponent of background checks on every purchase. How else could we prevent those with mental issues from acquiring weapons? The waiting period makes sense as a "cooling off" period.

Obviously, the problem of determining who has mental issues and entering those individuals in a data base still exists, but I would support resources being used to advance that issue.
 
Unless the person had treatment for mental issues and that information was available in a background check how could we know who sick and evil?

What would have caught some of the mass shooters is if their family had stepped up and gotten the shooter help.That is a tough call for a family.
And as we have learned family members had legally bought guns for member they knew had issues.
 
iatrogenic said:
I have always been a proponent of background checks on every purchase. How else could we prevent those with mental issues from acquiring weapons? The waiting period makes sense as a "cooling off" period.

Obviously, the problem of determining who has mental issues and entering those individuals in a data base still exists, but I would support resources being used to advance that issue.
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All fair points. It's just that you're usually one of the more rigid folks here. Lol.
 
This will kill the Russia campaign for the liberal media. Now it’s full on lunacy that Trump is a white supremacist, all white people are evil and the country is on lock down for fear of being shot.

The reality is that their messaging is much worse. The two lunatics involved in this shooting espoused many liberal views especially the Dayton shooter.

There literally is no full solution that prevents mass murder. The politicians out decrying the events are all part of the problem. However, they just repeatedly fail to come together for any sensible laws that might actually help reduce these events.

Truth is, the day high capacity weapons are actually needed is probably closer than we think.
 
The latest common talking point is Trump's rhetoric is racist.
It is not but that won't matter to them
Just like the MSNBC talking head saying Trump wants to "exterminate Latinos"
or what Castro did
or the NBC talker saying Trump was sending Nazi signals
Or Dems forcing NYT to change headline
or Booker saying Trump Rallies should be cancelled
is just hateful and bs.
 
Sherrod Brown of Ohio is speaking right now. He flat out calls Trump a racist and divisive, and not a single media person challenges that.

Obama did as much, or more, to divide than anything Trump is supposedly doing or saying. Would a Republican Senator have gotten away with continuously calling Obama racist and divisive?

Edit: He concludes the Q&A session by thanking the media for what they do and basically apologizing that they have to put up with attacks, presumably from Trump. Pandering to his "base", the media.
 
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horninchicago said:
Sherrod Brown of Ohio is speaking right now. He flat out calls Trump a racist and divisive, and not a single media person challenges that.

Obama did as much, or more, to divide than anything Trump is supposedly doing or saying. Would a Republican Senator have gotten away with continuously calling Obama racist and divisive?

Edit: He concludes the Q&A session by thanking the media for what they do and basically apologizing that they have to put up with attacks, presumably from Trump. Pandering to his "base", the media.
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Let em run with it. If there’s one certainty about Libs it is that they go overboard with their BS attacks and piss off the voters that matter.
 
iatrogenic said:
I have always been a proponent of background checks on every purchase. How else could we prevent those with mental issues from acquiring weapons? The waiting period makes sense as a "cooling off" period.

Obviously, the problem of determining who has mental issues and entering those individuals in a data base still exists, but I would support resources being used to advance that issue.
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I concur with iatrogenic. For you religious folks I think that may be one of the seven signs of the apocalypse so prepare accordingly. It also show that there is middle ground between centrists and the far-right. ;)
 
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If there is no record of mental illness how would a background check catch it?
What about a patient's right to privacy?
I wish it could be simple and work but I do not see how a background check would identify people with mental illness and prone to violence.
 
LongestHorn said:
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Where's your cartoon of Castro's brother's tweet naming trump donors in the SA area?? Now there's a real life example for you when it comes to inviting violence

If I'm in SA no way im walking into a bill Miller bbq joint. His name was on castro's hit list. His business is now a target for the unhinged
 
Horn2RunAgain said:
Where's your cartoon of Castro's brother's tweet naming trump donors in the SA area?? Now there's a real life example for you when it comes to inviting violence

If I'm in SA no way im walking into a bill Miller bbq joint. His name was on castro's hit list. His business is now a target for the unhinged
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Humorously, KTSA was giving Bill Miller's thousands of dollars in free advertising this morning, and encouraging all of their listeners to go buy some. A Chic Fil A type of backfire on Castro.
 
Just saw a clip of O'Rourke earlier today saying Trump "....has sought to make this country afraid of us. Has sought to keep us down. Um...we will not allow him to do that."

When he speaks about "us" and "we", who does he mean? I know he carries a fake nickname, but is he actually Mexican, or is he speaking about white people being afraid?

I am really confused.
 
Joe Scarborough defended Castro on MSNBC. However, Willie Geist pressed him on the doxxing. Interesting, Castro says it was not his intent to cause potential harm to any of the donors, but Geist very stoically said that is what will happen.

Shocking clarity from an MSNBC personality.

 
Horn6721 said:
If there is no record of mental illness how would a background check catch it?
What about a patient's right to privacy?
I wish it could be simple and work but I do not see how a background check would identify people with mental illness and prone to violence.
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That is difficult. I would start with, "Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the communi…..uh.....Democrat Party?"
 
I think the Red Flag laws are dangerous.
I see the need to make sure mentally ill people dont have the chance to commit violent crimes.
But wow there are so many scary things about Red Flag laws.
 
mchammer said:
Funny how the other parts of the shooter’s manifesto is ignored by the media.
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Yep. One could argue (unfairly of course) that all the nutty climate change rhetoric incited this lunatic to violence. As usual the MSM proves to be an extension of the Democratic party.
 
mchammer said:
Funny how the other parts of the shooter’s manifesto is ignored by the media.
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The El Paso shooter clearly didn't drive 9hrs due to concerns about Natural Resource usage or environmental concerns. You may want to ask yourself why you want to focus on the other parts of the manifesto
 
On "The Five" on Fox News during the "One More Thing" segment today, there was a blurb about a Longhorn that got loose in Colorado somewhere. I wasn't paying much attention to it, but Dana Perrino actually called it a Longhorn and then Jesse Watters could be heard saying, "Hook 'Em Horns".

:hookem2:
 
Seattle Husker said:
The El Paso shooter clearly didn't drive 9hrs due to concerns about Natural Resource usage or environmental concerns. You may want to ask yourself why you want to focus on the other parts of the manifesto
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He clearly did what he did because he was mentally disturbed. Any other argument is an attempt to score cheap and shameless political points.
 
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