Riots in Minneapolis

OUBubba said:
I don’t care if he had a fake 20 and fentanyl. Almost nine minutes on his neck when he was in cuffs is at least some degree of murder.
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Of course you don't care, it doesn't fit your narrative and your party line. If your party didn't make a fuss about this situation, you wouldn't care about it either.
 
lkainer said:
A murder charge requires intent. Do you believe Chauvin intended to kill George Floyd in front of a crowd while being videotaped? All while using a technique outlined in his training manual?

Tragic yes. Murder no. Manslaughter maybe.
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Hate to repeat myself, but none of it matters, the jury will hang the cops just to avoid the city burning again and the threat to their own lives.

Think of it as a reverse "To Kill a mockingbird". The cop is guilty of being white.
 
OUBubba said:
I don’t care if he had a fake 20 and fentanyl. Almost nine minutes on his neck when he was in cuffs is at least some degree of murder.
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If they can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the knee to the neck caused Floyd's death, then not only is it not a murder of any degree, it's not even a homicide. That's what the self-flagellators itching for a conviction don't understand. The case has major causation problems. In any other situation, a conviction would be a long shot.
 
So someone, I suppose the prosecutor as it's their turn in the trial, brought up the girlfriend of St. George, who then proceeded to say that both her and her man were hooked on junk, and that George OD'ed two months before his ultimate demise and had to be taken to the hospital to be saved. Not quite sure why the prosecutor would trot out a witness who could say with a high degree of believability that St. George was a junkie who OD'ed, but strange things happen in court.

So far the prosecutor has done a great job - in showing George was nearly on death's door long before the cops showed up that day.

She also said George's dealer was the dude who was in the car with him when the cops pulled them over. This guy, Morris Hall, made a big deal last year about how he was going to speak out and seek justice - till this week when his lawyer said he would plead the 5th if called to testify. Probably the witness stand isn't a good place for a drug dealer to have to sit.
 
Yep, the person who could speak the loudest about #FentanylFloyd's actions that day has decided not to testify...but I guess he figures he still has an obligation to live up to the Criminal Code of not rolling on your dope fiend friends even when said 'friend' is dead. And then Hall will make the rounds of the liberal media saying it was a decision he made because he already knew how the case would play out...liberals will exhalt his name. Realists will simply roll their eyes...
 
This thing is far from over. As pointed out by multiple posters upstream, it will likely come down to a battle of the experts over the causation of death. The autopsy should be a key piece of evidence. Defense counsel is also painting the picture that the officers, including Chauvin, were in reasonable fear from the crowd and Floyd himself, which might (or might not) excuse some of the apparent excesses they did.

Prosecution has established through high ranking cops on the Minn. police force that Chauvin was not following procedure, so Defense will likely not go much down that route--unless Defense found some training manual, video, or other cops who will testify that they were indeed trained to do that knee on the back/neck maneuver and that Chauvin was following procedure. Defense didn't cross the police chief or the other cop that hard on Chauvin (not) following procedure, so Defense may just let that angle go.
 
With the BLM and Black Panthrs promising riots will the jury hve the courage to do what is right if the evidence shows no murder?
 
By the way it's gone so far, they already have!

None of it matters. The goose is already cooked in this show trial. Might as well be held in the basement of Lubyanka prison by the NKVD.

At least Chauvin gets to wear a belt - one of the commies tricks was to give someone pants way too big and no belt at their trial, so they had to keep holding their pants up and look like a criminal. Much like now how the government dresses those they don't like in an orange jumpsuit, then parades them in front of the camera on the way to a hearing.
 
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Seattle Husker said:
Is the dress blue or gold?

So, the guy that supposedly tried to hide drugs by consuming them is suddenly expounding "I ate too many drugs"? I heard "I aint do any [inaudible]".
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This may be a shock to you, but SOME druggies DO recognize the signs of an overdose before they actually die from said overdose...
 
Can’t get the “drugs” part of it clear but sure sounds like a slurred “ahh high” before the “I ate.....”
 
Duck Dodgers said:
Hey trace, 4 x Lethal Dose, it's all the same. It's not a big volume compared to 240 pounds!
And no Barry, the antidote to fentanyl overdoes isn't to whip out the meth pipe. I realize people in East OK carry one around like most folks carry a pocket knife, but meth pipes are not an approved for medicinal purposes.

Dude was tripping hard - just watch the full arrest video. He's jumping around, babbling nonsense about how he doesn't want to be shot as he was shot before by the PO-leeze (a lie) and it hurt real bad (the immortal words of John Wayne Bobbit, when asked about what if felt like when his dick was cut off).

Once cuffed up and in the backseat of the car, he's babbling about how claustrophobic he is - rather strange to feel that way about being in a car, considering he drove one to the Quicky Mart. Must be 100% different front seat compared to the back.
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I love all the internet doctors on this forum.

Go ask anybody who works in the ER and they will tell you that Floyd's agitation is NOT a sign of opioid overdose.

People who OD on narcotics are found asleep on the sidewalk, not running around agitated and confused.
 
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AustinHorn24 said:
I love all the internet doctors on this forum.

Go ask anybody who works in the ER and they will tell you that Floyd's agitation is NOT a sign of opioid overdose.

People who OD on narcotics are found asleep on the sidewalk, not running around agitated and confused.
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Yeah, I'm treated like a fool when I report that my friend who's a primary care doc boarded in ER said that Floyd passing from fentynal was laughable. As he put it "people in the process of going to the light due to fentynal OD don't typically moan 'I can't breathe' 20 times".
 
OUBubba said:
Yeah, I'm treated like a fool when I report that my friend who's a primary care doc boarded in ER said that Floyd passing from fentynal was laughable. As he put it "people in the process of going to the light due to fentynal OD don't typically moan 'I can't breathe' 20 times".
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So, would every single ER doctor on the planet agree with your friend?

And, no, I'm not an internet doctor.
 
AustinHorn24 said:
I love all the internet doctors on this forum.

Go ask anybody who works in the ER and they will tell you that Floyd's agitation is NOT a sign of opioid overdose.

People who OD on narcotics are found asleep on the sidewalk, not running around agitated and confused.
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What about the meth in his system?
 
AustinHorn24 said:
I love all the internet doctors on this forum.

Go ask anybody who works in the ER and they will tell you that Floyd's agitation is NOT a sign of opioid overdose.

People who OD on narcotics are found asleep on the sidewalk, not running around agitated and confused.
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So all the talk about excited delirium is tin foil hat bunk?

I'd venture to say Floyd's system hadn't yet ODd when he was pulled over. And, after watching the body cam footage he was definitely high as a kite on something. Man was in lala land. But you're saying it wasn't because of drugs?
 
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