Band and Cheer Stuff

[TEXnSEATTLE]

Betcha didn't know this. The tune may have originally come from Franz Von Suppe, an Austrian opera composer.

“I’ve Been Working on the Railroad” was also called “The Levee Song.” The origin of that tune is unclear. The central theme of the song might well have come from Franz Von Suppé’s 1846 Poet and Peasant Overture and can be heard about one minute into the piece. The first publication of “I’ve Been Working on the Railroad” (music and lyrics) was in 1894.

Austrian + WHITE = RACIST!!!

...surely, everyone knows how to spot them by now

 

[TEXnSEATTLE]

A song that (not exactly in its present form) was probably actually sung by some of the workers. Shouldn't it be a plus that the school song uses a tune of the overlooked laborer and not a high-falutin stuff nancy boy tune?

CHINESE laborers, if I am correct, built most of the railroads prior to the turn of the LAST century....not in the best of conditions and not for very much pay, either.

 

[Bayerithe]

The thing with LHB ... is everyone has to re-audition each year. You're not locked into a spot just because you are a returning member. This allows you to have members comply with playing the Eyes in order to audition and gain a spot on the LHB roster.

Shed the dead weight, get people in that want to be there.

 

[Chop]

CHINESE laborers, if I am correct, built most of the railroads prior to the turn of the LAST century....not in the best of conditions and not for very much pay, either.

Here's a Texas railroad built by Italian laborers.

Macaroni Line

"After completion of the line, these workers settled on the land along the railroad, but principally around Victoria. Today their descendants are prominent citizens of the community, well liked, respected and an integral part of the section’s economic life."

We treat our immigrants better than any other place, save maybe Canada. Leland Stanford (of the Southern Pacific Railroad, and later some private school out West he named after his son...) was perhaps the biggest beneficiary of super cheap Chinese labor. So when we play Stanford, The Eyes' tune takes on a special meaning.

 

[SabreHorn]

Chop,

Thanks. Great read.

If you don't know the story of the original KCS, it is an interesting story of the partnership of Arthur Stillwell, Bet a million Gates, and Pullman of the railroad car fame. The influence "the little people" had over Gates and how Port Arthur came to be.

As a side note, about ten years ago, I had a contract to purchase some land in Port Arthur, which was deeded to the trio in 1897, and is still in the original RR's name. Dealing with KCS will drive you nuts - good guys, just not in touch with the real world.

 

[TEXnSEATTLE]

Here's a Texas railroad built by Italian laborers.

Macaroni Line

"After completion of the line, these workers settled on the land along the railroad, but principally around Victoria. Today their descendants are prominent citizens of the community, well liked, respected and an integral part of the section’s economic life."

We treat our immigrants better than any other place, save maybe Canada. Leland Stanford (of the Southern Pacific Railroad, and later some private school out West he named after his son...) was perhaps the biggest beneficiary of super cheap Chinese labor. So when we play Stanford, The Eyes' tune takes on a special meaning.

the treatment of the Chinese immigrants was deplorable during the Gold Rush of California....they would do all the work and find and retrieve the gold and there would be someone in wait to swindle it from them...or, many were killed on their way to cashing in their find....

 

[Chop]

Arthur Stillwell - namesake of Port Arthur (I think).

While almost everyone else was building East - West, Stillwell set to connect the grain markets of the Midwest with the Gulf Coast. It was his KC Southern versus the Illinois Central for that niche. I think he was a real eccentric, maybe even an occultist, who claimed he got inspiration and business ideas from unseen forces and entities.

 

[Chop]

the treatment of the Chinese immigrants was deplorable during the Gold Rush of California....they would do all the work and find and retrieve the gold and there would be someone in wait to swindle it from them...or, many were killed on their way to cashing in their find....

Not surprising, I suppose. Californians do tend to be racists.

My limited historical understanding was that the Chinese immigrants formed partnerships and bought old mining claims (that others thought had been played out) on the cheap. They then deployed machinery and cheap labor and worked the old (supposedly depleted) gold claims for $$$$$. Good for them. Something to emulate.

 

[SabreHorn]

Gates was the "occultist", but the story will scare you to death and give you pause to consider what happened & the timing.

Stillwell supposedly want to connect Chicago to the Texas Gulf Coast by way of St Louis & Kansas City, allowing for Texas beef and produce to be shipped north and Chicago to ship South.

The original plan was to build it to Galveston until "the little people" intervened.

 

[Chop]

Gates was the "occultist", but the story will scare you to death and give you pause to consider what happened & the timing.

Stillwell supposedly want to connect Chicago to the Texas Gulf Coast by way of St Louis & Kansas City, allowing for Texas beef and produce to be shipped north and Chicago to ship South.

The original plan was to build it to Galveston until "the little people" intervened.

I'm not a materialist and hold some beliefs in the supernatural. The occult influence on the success of the KCS line may have been real, who knows. I tend to not mess with that sort of stuff outside the confines of Christianity though.

 

[Chop]

allowing for Texas beef and produce to be shipped north and Chicago to ship South

That's about what Texas needed then. No need to drive cattle 500 or so miles to Abilene, Kansas anymore.

 

[Chop]

The original plan was to build it to Galveston until "the little people" intervened.

Could be. Also could be the miles and miles of difficult swamp in Jefferson and Chambers Counties.

 

[SabreHorn]

The original railroad would have avoided Southeast Texas, choosing to come closer to Houston and on to Galveston, avoiding Trinity Bay.

 

[Chop]

Got it. I hope the KCS line remains independent. There aren't many sizable lines left that haven't been gobbled up by Union Pacific, BNSF, CSX, or Norfolk Southern.

(model train enthusiast here)
(I also have some cousins who work for railroads--an awesome job for a person with no college but decent mechanical skills and sobriety at work)

But back to the topic--clearly the author of the "I've Been Working on the Railroad" song was talking about the MoPac.

 

[Vol Horn 4 Life]

Now, that's racist.

So it's racist to point out what's racist?

 

[2003TexasGrad]

So it's racist to point out what's racist?

Damn dude. You said racist twice in one sentence. That's.... racist!

 

[LHABSOB]

Some Cheer Stuff:

Congrats to the 2021-2022 Spirit Program Captains!

Katie Mulloy - Orange Squad
Rylan Smith - Pom Squad
Emma Richardson - White Squad

My only request, do that "Texas, Texas YeeHaw!" cheer more frequently.

Katie Mulloy - Friendswood, TX - Corporate Communications

Rylan Smith - Austin TX - Business / MIS

Emma Richardson - Austin, TX - Biology

Spirit Program Captains Page 2021 22 (PDF) - University of Texas Athletics

Below is the link to the full roster:

2020-21 Spirit Squad Roster - University of Texas Athletics

One of my favorite Meatloaf songs....

 

[mb227]

Damn dude. You said racist twice in one sentence. That's.... racist!

Since it appears to have been correct grammatically, does that make it structurally racist?

 

[TEXnSEATTLE]

So it's racist to point out what's racist?

Let me review the "Cancel Culture for Dummies" and get back to you.

 

[Vol Horn 4 Life]

Since it appears to have been correct grammatically, does that make it structurally racist?

Or would it be systemic racism because correct grammar is part of the system? This is all so confusing.

 

[beijinghorn1]

Some Cheer Stuff:

Congrats to the 2021-2022 Spirit Program Captains!

Katie Mulloy - Orange Squad
Rylan Smith - Pom Squad
Emma Richardson - White Squad

My only request, do that "Texas, Texas YeeHaw!" cheer more frequently.

Katie Mulloy - Friendswood, TX - Corporate Communications

Rylan Smith - Austin TX - Business / MIS

Emma Richardson - Austin, TX - Biology

Spirit Program Captains Page 2021 22 (PDF) - University of Texas Athletics

Below is the link to the full roster:

2020-21 Spirit Squad Roster - University of Texas Athletics

You would really ruffle my feathers if you tried to get rid of these groups, but I could care less about the band.

 

[mchammer]

CHINESE laborers, if I am correct, built most of the railroads prior to the turn of the LAST century....not in the best of conditions and not for very much pay, either.

Railroads east of the Mississippi were built by the Irish.

 

[TEXnSEATTLE]

Railroads east of the Mississippi were built by the Irish.

Chinese workers made up most of the workforce between roughly 700 miles of train tracks between Sacramento, California, and Promontory, Utah. During the 19th century, more than 2.5 million Chinese citizens left their country and were hired in 1864 after a labor shortage threatened the railroad's completion.Jul 18, 2019

 

[militaryhorn]

Got it. I hope the KCS line remains independent. There aren't many sizable lines left that haven't been gobbled up by Union Pacific, BNSF, CSX, or Norfolk Southern.

(model train enthusiast here)
(I also have some cousins who work for railroads--an awesome job for a person with no college but decent mechanical skills and sobriety at work)

But back to the topic--clearly the author of the "I've Been Working on the Railroad" song was talking about the MoPac.

I work for BNSF as a locomotive engineer here in San Antonio. You would be surprised to know a lot of my fellow engineers are UT alums. Even though our job only requires a high school diploma, many have college degrees.

The lure of the job is the money. We make six figures and the work is probably the easiest money out there if you can handle the hours and schedule.

 

[TEXnSEATTLE]

The original railroad would have avoided Southeast Texas, choosing to come closer to Houston and on to Galveston, avoiding Trinity Bay.

The main RR Station used to be right to the North side of Minute Maid. Now, none of the tracks are there. Where did they move Union Station to?

 

[SabreHorn]

I thought the train station was still downtown by Enron Farm, but I don't know if Amtrak even comes through anymore.

HB&T needs to be moved out of downtown/Fifth Ward, but that would be a massive undertaking.

 

[TEXnSEATTLE]

I thought the train station was still downtown by Enron Farm, but I don't know if Amtrak even comes through anymore.

HB&T needs to be moved out of downtown/Fifth Ward, but that would be a massive undertaking.

the building adjacent to Minute Maid on the North used to be Union Station. That is where my Mom first spotted my Dad when he was coming to town to pitch against the Buffs....she was a "greeter" for the Buffs in '47-'49 and with one look, she knew what she wanted....

 

[TEXnSEATTLE]

I work for BNSF as a locomotive engineer here in San Antonio. You would be surprised to know a lot of my fellow engineers are UT alums. Even though our job only requires a high school diploma, many have college degrees.

The lure of the job is the money. We make six figures and the work is probably the easiest money out there if you can handle the hours and schedule.

I have 4 degrees, are they hiring??? would they let me take my St. Bernards along???

 

[mchammer]

Chinese workers made up most of the workforce between roughly 700 miles of train tracks between Sacramento, California, and Promontory, Utah. During the 19th century, more than 2.5 million Chinese citizens left their country and were hired in 1864 after a labor shortage threatened the railroad's completion.Jul 18, 2019

The estimated 10,000 Irish immigrants who worked on the completion of the First Transcontinental Railroad were honored on May 10, its 150th anniversary. ... Further Irish immigrants worked with 15,000 Chinese workers, who were the main workforce on the line from Sacramento, California, to Promontory Summit, Utah.May 10, 2019

www.irishcentral.com › ... › History
First Transcontinental Railroad Irish workers honored | IrishCentral.com

 

[Chop]

Civilization owes a big debt to the Irish.

But I still don’t like Notre Dame.