IT saying it's likely that OL Ory Williams of San Marcos will officially visit during the season.
Ory Williams, San Marcos, Offensive Tackle
Ory Williams, San Marcos, Offensive Tackle
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lot of wish lists, very little commitments.
MC, some of the people I follow are very critical of the rating services, believing that many are lazy, don’t keep up, and that their assessments are inaccurate or unreliable. Granted, they are all we have, but it is certainly not a perfect science.At this point in the cycle, unless you are a high 4* or 5*, you likely aren’t going to get playing time so you might as well commit to other schools.
Agree 1000%. I tend to look, not so much @ the # of *'s a guy has, but at the # of offers he/she has & from whom. If someone has 3* but 25 offers from the likes of UGA, Bama, tOSU, SC, Florida, ou, OSU, Meetchicken, etc., I tend to be more impressed than a 4* without many of those offers.MC, some of the people I follow are very critical of the rating services, believing that many are lazy, don’t keep up, and that their assessments are inaccurate or unreliable. Granted, they are all we have, but it is certainly not a perfect science.
As an example, DL seems like an interesting position group. We’re landing 3-stars, and going after 3 and low 4 stars, with an occasional 5 star. Does that mean that none of the very highly rated players are interested in Texas, or, does it expose the inconsistency of the rating services? I don’t know the answer to that question but I have to wonder.
Byron Murphy, an obvious stud, was a 3 star coming out, and the 50th rated player in Texas, per Rivals. Then there’s Barryn Sorrell, another 3-Star, and only # 17 in the state. How about Jaylan Ford? Rivals 3-Star, and rated # 127 in the state that year!
Call me a rating services skeptic. If Bo Davis and Sark like a player enough to offer, I’m inclined to believe that they know more than the so called experts.
You are certainly more savy than I am re: recruiting. I understood that coaches make "offers" they don't really pursue. My thought is that before they make an "offer", they do a preliminary eval & deem the kid to be good enough for an "offer". My understanding is that some folks that pass out stars rely on reputations & word of mouth without actually evaluating the kid. So what do you look at & what am I missing?sa,
I also look at offers but realize there are "offers". then there are "offers", and we rarely know which is which. With Saban passing out 300+ "offers", how do we know how many are "real"?
At the same time, I rarely look at "highlight films". Don't know the caliber of the competition, and no one is posting bad performances.
I believe the reality is Texas has simply struck out on the 5* and high 4* DT's during Sark's tenure. I don't know why, but the top DT's just haven't been interested in Texas and it has probably been the weakest recruited position during Sark's tenure. Mitchell was not top 10 on any of the lists I've seen. DT is also probably the most important going into the SEC behind QB.MC, some of the people I follow are very critical of the rating services, believing that many are lazy, don’t keep up, and that their assessments are inaccurate or unreliable. Granted, they are all we have, but it is certainly not a perfect science.
As an example, DL seems like an interesting position group. We’re landing 3-stars, and going after 3 and low 4 stars, with an occasional 5 star. Does that mean that none of the very highly rated players are interested in Texas, or, does it expose the inconsistency of the rating services? I don’t know the answer to that question but I have to wonder.
Byron Murphy, an obvious stud, was a 3 star coming out, and the 50th rated player in Texas, per Rivals. Then there’s Barryn Sorrell, another 3-Star, and only # 17 in the state. How about Jaylan Ford? Rivals 3-Star, and rated # 127 in the state that year!
Call me a rating services skeptic. If Bo Davis and Sark like a player enough to offer, I’m inclined to believe that they know more than the so called experts.
I agree on your comments about striking out on the high rated DT. I am not a fan of pks defense and I firmly believe its the reason behind that issue. Last year should have a * next to it because we hit several teams that were abysmal who typically are not. This inflated the d rankings and took away from reality. The d was better last year than the year before but how could it not be. pk championed one of the worst defenses in Texas history in his 1st year. No where to go but up from there.I believe the reality is Texas has simply struck out on the 5* and high 4* DT's during Sark's tenure. I don't know why, but the top DT's just haven't been interested in Texas and it has probably been the weakest recruited position during Sark's tenure. Mitchell was not top 10 on any of the lists I've seen. DT is also probably the most important going into the SEC behind QB.
I hope Sark and Davis can get it turned around as the last thing we want is TH like classes that may be highly ranked but completely unbalanced. OL recruiting has been great, but DL has not. Even the DL transfer doesn't have the college pedigree that most of the transfers at other positions do. And right now only 1 top 10 recruit in the 24 class is even considering Texas. I know things can change but it's unlikely we get a couple of 5* DT's to change their mind.
These are good points. Sweatt was also a 3 star.MC, some of the people I follow are very critical of the rating services, believing that many are lazy, don’t keep up, and that their assessments are inaccurate or unreliable. Granted, they are all we have, but it is certainly not a perfect science.
As an example, DL seems like an interesting position group. We’re landing 3-stars, and going after 3 and low 4 stars, with an occasional 5 star. Does that mean that none of the very highly rated players are interested in Texas, or, does it expose the inconsistency of the rating services? I don’t know the answer to that question but I have to wonder.
Byron Murphy, an obvious stud, was a 3 star coming out, and the 50th rated player in Texas, per Rivals. Then there’s Barryn Sorrell, another 3-Star, and only # 17 in the state. How about Jaylan Ford? Rivals 3-Star, and rated # 127 in the state that year!
Call me a rating services skeptic. If Bo Davis and Sark like a player enough to offer, I’m inclined to believe that they know more than the so called experts.
I’m pretty sure Coach Dabbs was extremely influential in getting Bill Acker and Steve McMichaels to the 40 Acres.DTs?
Kenneth Sims had NO offers, and was an afterthought for us. We had two unused scholarships and (IIRC) Fred agreed to take him to shut Ken Dabbs up. Ken knew talent. and he knew people.
I’m pretty sure Coach Dabbs was extremely influential in getting Bill Acker and Steve McMichaels to the 40 Acres.
Maybe even Bill’s brother Jim, who played baseball.
I wish they would offer every 5 star DT in the country. I think though most DTs IQ is a little low these days. Maybe they are intimidated by texas academics.I believe the reality is Texas has simply struck out on the 5* and high 4* DT's during Sark's tenure. I don't know why, but the top DT's just haven't been interested in Texas and it has probably been the weakest recruited position during Sark's tenure. Mitchell was not top 10 on any of the lists I've seen. DT is also probably the most important going into the SEC behind QB.
I hope Sark and Davis can get it turned around as the last thing we want is TH like classes that may be highly ranked but completely unbalanced. OL recruiting has been great, but DL has not. Even the DL transfer doesn't have the college pedigree that most of the transfers at other positions do. And right now only 1 top 10 recruit in the 24 class is even considering Texas. I know things can change but it's unlikely we get a couple of 5* DT's to change their mind.
Now thats funny!! Are you saying that all DT are not capable of passing grades at UT? We used to be in the mix with any 5 star DT in state. Painful to see a few play over at gomerville. If Texas does not have an elite d this year, pk will be gone or Sark will be on the hot seat. Texas is poised to have a very solid team. Its deep enough across the board that we should be "next man up mentality" should someone go down. Now we just have to prove it.I wish they would offer every 5 star DT in the country. I think though most DTs IQ is a little low these days. Maybe they are intimidated by texas academics.
That must have been the most dominant small town South Texas high school football team ever.I'm sure he did. Ken grew up in Freer and played QB at Freer High. As you guys know, all these guys also grew up in Freer.
I think though most DTs IQ is a little low these days.
Apparently we’ve done pretty well identifying potential in 3* star talent.I do like recruiting. Just for fun, I looked at Rivals Texas lowest ranked recruit in 2020
Jaylon Ford…. 3 star
Imagine trying to rate a 17 year olds potential… not an exact science
2019 the lowest was a three star current DL Sweat.
Regarding 2019, Herman recruited a total of 4 OL
1.Tyler Johnson
2. Javonne Shepherd
3. Isaiah Hookfin
4. Willie Tyler
(Thank you Mr Flood and Sark).
2018 the lowest ranked player was 3 star Christian Jones
Likely 3 all-B12 players.I do like recruiting. Just for fun, I looked at Rivals Texas lowest ranked recruit in 2020
Jaylon Ford…. 3 star
Imagine trying to rate a 17 year olds potential… not an exact science
2019 the lowest was a three star current DL Sweat.
Regarding 2019, Herman recruited a total of 4 OL
1.Tyler Johnson
2. Javonne Shepherd
3. Isaiah Hookfin
4. Willie Tyler
(Thank you Mr Flood and Sark).
2018 the lowest ranked player was 3 star Christian Jones
Now thats funny!! Are you saying that all DT are not capable of passing grades at UT? We used to be in the mix with any 5 star DT in state. Painful to see a few play over at gomerville. If Texas does not have an elite d this year, pk will be gone or Sark will be on the hot seat. Texas is poised to have a very solid team. Its deep enough across the board that we should be "next man up mentality" should someone go down. Now we just have to prove it.
I say that DTs are on the lowest part of the IQ totem pole just below WRs. This is based on the fact they like to stand there hug and dance with the o-linemen while the RBs run right by them.?
DTs are pretty smart. Maybe not as smart as LTs or Cs, but generally smarter than OGs. And MUCH smarter than TEs and grad assistants.
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