The Media Industry

What is Bill Maher exactly? He looks like an android like Data from Star Trek Next Generation. He is about as funny. But he has a very popular TV show about politics.

Progressives have done a very good job of turning comedian like people into political commentators. I credit that with the culture shifting so much over the last 10 years and Conservatives are just now catching on. Of course Conservative attempts to counter this only exist on internet sites and the like. T
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
It was more useful to me while driving through Italy than googlemaps was.
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I've driven through Italy. It's hell. So many streets are unsigned or so poorly signed that you can't tell where the hell you are. Futhermore, buildings frequently don't have numbers on them. If Italians weren't drunk all the time, their mailmen would be suicidal. If MapQuest worked pretty well, I'll have to check that out.
 
Let me be more precise. Mapquest worked in advance for me. I put GPS coordinates into the TomTom that were derived from Mapquest, and the TomTom took us where we needed to go, down to the parking lot in, for instance, Verona, where we wanted to park while we walked the town.

I found Mapquest to have more recently updated maps and location functionality than google did.
 
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It's encouraging that Yahoo is getting ratio'ed on this, but still. It's going to get visibility, liberals are going to be offended and shocked, and it will be one more "mistake" that Yahoo will either justify or quietly walk back where no one will notice the correction.
 
So I was listening to Meet the Press while my car was having maintenance done on it, and I was reminded of how much that show had gone down the hill.

They had Chris Coons as a guest. I heard Coons repeat the Democratic talking point that the FBI investigation was bogus because they didn't interview corroborating witnesses that Ford had identified. Of course, any remotely fair reporter would have asked the following:

1. What are these witnesses' names?
2. Have you talked to them?
3. Did you press the Judiciary Committee to subpoena them?

But instead of doing that, Chuck Todd just let a completely uncorroborated narrative go unchallenged. That's how you credibly get called "fake news."

I also notice that these "news" shows virtually never have both the Republican and Democratic guests on at the same time. The used to be very common, and it worked well, because if the host didn't challenge something, the adversarial guest would. It's almost as if the hosts don't want that to happen now.
 
Monahorns said:
What is Bill Maher exactly? He looks like an android like Data from Star Trek Next Generation. He is about as funny. But he has a very popular TV show about politics.

Progressives have done a very good job of turning comedian like people into political commentators. I credit that with the culture shifting so much over the last 10 years and Conservatives are just now catching on. Of course Conservative attempts to counter this only exist on internet sites and the like. T
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He is a flaming liberal that fills his audience with the same. Not sure what measure you are using to say he is popular . Apparently he is a major shareholder of HBO. Otherwise his show would have been cancelled long ago.
 
Bill Maher is a flaming liberal, of course, but I do respect him standing up for free speech, against the preferences of his guest and his audience:

 
Bill Maher has been good on free speech and the danger of radical Islam. I give him credit on those issues, but otherwise he is a scumbag.

I didn't know he was in a leadership position in HBO. But even to become a major shareholder means somewhere down the line he was popular enough to make enough money to do that. Or maybe he is enjoying some form of nepotism. Who knows.
 
Monahorns said:
Bill Maher has been good on free speech and the danger of radical Islam. I give him credit on those issues, but otherwise he is a scumbag.
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I agree but to be fair, he has a personal axe to grind on both of those issues. He actually was kicked off ABC years ago because of some inane comments about 9/11. And he also happens to be aggressively anti-religion regardless of which religion.

I doubt he would be so Libertarian about the 2nd Amendment.
 
Which is why the traditional media industry needs to die. We don't need them anymore. As long as we can maintain a free internet you will be able to find all the perspectives and the competition will lead to vetting and more careful reporting. Monopolies do as they do unfortunately.
 
Monahorns said:
We don't need them anymore.
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We actually need them desperately... even more now in an era when you get "news" from anyone, any time, regardless of their background or level of expertise. The problem is that the media has completely abdicated their role and taken on the job of advocacy, which means that we simply don't have that neutral, facts-based place we can see as our "home base" for making political and social decisions.
 
If having a journalism degree, going through a job interview, and working for a media company which is supposed to have certain ethics isn't enough to ensure reliable news reporting, then why are they so critical.

The problem is they are monolithic and able to act like a monopoly. So now they report not what is true necessarily but what brings about the effect they most want.

First, even individual bloggers can be honest and demonstrate reporting ethics. Second, they will be held accountable by each other. News decentralization is the way to go. At this point in time anyone with eyes and a smartphone can communicate reliable information.
 
I am guessing Rice would have to move to Maine so she could run
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her family has a house in Maine but she does not live there


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See! If we had unbiased internet media platforms the journalists would hold themselves accountable. Even with biased Twitter some of that still happens.
 
Monahorns said:
If having a journalism degree, going through a job interview, and working for a media company which is supposed to have certain ethics isn't enough to ensure reliable news reporting, then why are they so critical.
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You're taking a different approach from what I'm saying. My point is that we need people who are trained in journalism, who understand how to interview, how to research, how to understand multiple viewpoints and how to articulate those things clearly in a way that's fair. I can tell you, that does not describe the blogging community on any level. You can probably count on two hands the number of political amateur bloggers who are trying to do that.

The fact that journalists have in many cases failed to live up to that doesn't negate the need for good journalists, and it doesn't make bloggers any better or more reliable at what they do. They might actually be right in what they're reporting. That doesn't make them journalists.
 
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