The Media Industry

[Mr. Deez]

Right. Whether the vet was 100% right or 100% wrong, the point of the matter is that WFAA decided that that minor story fit the agenda. Hence the front page story. My point is that really HORRIBLE **** has been going on in Portland for months now w/ nary a mention by most news outlets.

I totally agree. It's totally consistent to acknowledge that these particular officers were out of line but also recognize that the rioters are to be condemned and that the media is reporting the story to drive a political narrative rather than to give a clear picture of what has been happening.

 

[bystander]

NYT Publishes Op-Ed by Chinese Professor Without Disclosing Ties to Beijing

New York Times publishes without the usual smear that would accompany ANY article about Trump.

 

[Joe Fan]

What do you suppose the NYT thinks is the problem with public schools?

Try and guess before you look

Spoiler

Did you get it right?

 

[bystander]

What do you suppose the NYT thinks is the problem with public schools?

Try and guess before you look

Spoiler

Did you get it right?

Not the teachers unions. Not discipline problems in school. Not the parents who refuse to get involved except to run cover for their kid when there's a problem.

Amazingly (or maybe not), one would be shocked to know the number of white parents who wish to abandon public schools because why? THEY FEEL POWERLESS IN THE FACE OF THE LIBERAL ONSLAUGHT.

 

[Monahorns]

bystander,

Not the parents who refuse to get involved except to run cover for their kid when there's a problem.

But it is blaming parents. Deez blames parents too. He is right in a small way. Progressives want the monstrosity that exists today. Everyone else will have problems to change it because of Progressive parents, teachers unions, and lobbyists.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Deez blames parents too.

I blame parents and voters who are indifferent (in their actions and inaction, not their rhetoric) to public schools.

 

[Monahorns]

Like I said.

 

[OUBubba]

Jones was a crackpot. Everybody knew it. (Still can't believe I was on his show back in 2005.)

I'm intrigued. Please summarize in your spare time.

 

[Mr. Deez]

I'm intrigued. Please summarize in your spare time.

I basically took a piss on Tom Craddick's face, and it attracted some attention.

 

[Statalyzer]

Parents who think their kids can do no wrong and model for their kids how to blame everyone else but themselves for their own choices are certainly one big part of the problem.

 

[Joe Fan]

Back in Feb, I did mention they had a good attorney, who had already enjoyed some success in this fascinating but challenging area of law

Now the WAPO settles with Sandmann too

We are pleased that we have been able to reach a mutually agreeable resolution of the remaining claims in this lawsuit"
-- Kris Coratti, spokeswoman for the Washington Post
​

 

[Mr. Deez]

Now the WAPO settles with Sandmann too

We are pleased that we have been able to reach a mutually agreeable resolution of the remaining claims in this lawsuit"
-- Kris Coratti, spokeswoman for the Washington Post
​

I'm sure there's a confidentiality clause, but I'm curious about how much he got.

 

[Joe Fan]

I'm sure there's a confidentiality clause, but I'm curious about how much he got.

I remember being on the winning side of a class action suit when I was a teenager. I got a check for 0.78 cents.

 

[Joe Fan]

 

[mchammer]

I'm sure there's a confidentiality clause, but I'm curious about how much he got.

Sort of irrelevant. The fact that the defendants are settling is admission they have a good chance of losing in court. Losing a court case is way more damaging than what is being paid. It would in fact be judicial approval of the fake news moniker.

 

[Joe Fan]

Our media is so dishonest, I dont know how they look at themselves in the mirror

Not only is Trump tested every day but everyone who is allowed near him must also first test negative

 

[Mr. Deez]

Sort of irrelevant. The fact that the defendants are settling is admission they have a good chance of losing in court. Losing a court case is way more damaging than what is being paid. It would in fact be judicial approval of the fake news moniker.

Of course it's relevant. A $5,000 nuisance value settlement says something very different from a $5M kick in the balls.

 

[4th_floor]

Of course it's relevant. A $5,000 nuisance value settlement says something very different from a $5M kick in the balls.

If the compost settled for 5 grand, they would find a way to leak that. Anything less than $100,000 would be a total victory for the compost. Likely north of $1MM, unless Steve Patterson is his lawyer.

 

[iatrogenic]

My "expert" opinion is $200K-$300K each.The lawyers are going to force him into a settlement to get themselves paid. That's the legal system in a nutshell. There's little justice in a courtroom.

 

[Mr. Deez]

I remember being on the winning side of a class action suit when I was a teenager. I got a check for 0.78 cents.

Hope you didn't spend all that in one place.

 

[Mr. Deez]

If the compost settled for 5 grand, they would find a way to leak that. Anything less than $100,000 would be a total victory for the compost. Likely north of $1MM, unless Steve Patterson is his lawyer.

I agree. My only point is that the amount is relevant.

 

[Mr. Deez]

My "expert" opinion is $200K-$300K each.The lawyers are going to force him into a settlement to get themselves paid. That's the legal system in a nutshell. There's little justice in a courtroom.

If he had some hack representing him, maybe. Lin Wood has a pretty good record in defamation cases and gotten decent settlements in them. Furthermore, he's a conservative who may be doing this somewhat for ideological reasons. Apparently he's now representing Carter Page and going after Huffington Post and Yahoo News.

Defamation is an almost dead area of litigation because a liberal Supreme Court started giving the media the "I'm stupid" defense (or more accurately, forced some plaintiffs to prove that the media wasn't stupid) in the '60s to protect them from getting sued in the South for lying about their public officials in reporting on civil rights protests. However, in recent years, defamation seems to be making a bit of a comeback - not because the law is getting any easier but because the media is lying more blatantly and obviously than they used to. Lin Wood is sorta leading the charge on that.

 

[mchammer]

If he had some hack representing him, maybe. Lin Wood has a pretty good record in defamation cases and gotten decent settlements in them. Furthermore, he's a conservative who may be doing this somewhat for ideological reasons. Apparently he's now representing Carter Page and going after Huffington Post and Yahoo News.

Defamation is an almost dead area of litigation because a liberal Supreme Court started giving the media the "I'm stupid" defense (or more accurately, forced some plaintiffs to prove that the media wasn't stupid) in the '60s to protect them from getting sued in the South for lying about their public officials in reporting on civil rights protests. However, in recent years, defamation seems to be making a bit of a comeback - not because the law is getting any easier but because the media is lying more blatantly and obviously than they used to. Lin Wood is sorta leading the charge on that.

Further defamation actually hurts people: economically, psychologically, and socially. Which is unlike the recent Monsanto glyphosate “victim” that sued for getting cancer, though glyphosate is not biologically active against animals, only grass.

 

[Joe Fan]

See if you can spot the difference

 

[mchammer]

The tweets were not remotely racist or misogynist.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Further defamation actually hurts people: economically, psychologically, and socially. Which is unlike the recent Monsanto glyphosate “victim” that sued for getting cancer, though glyphosate is not biologically active against animals, only grass.

Defamation hurts people terribly. I think it's a total crock of **** that the Supreme Court made it so easy for media defendants to get away with it. It's a big reason why our media sucks now. If Lin Wood is finding a way to make some of them work, good for him. If I ran my own firm that was already making money, I might take some of these for free just for the fun of getting to slap around some idiot journalists in depositions.

 

[Joe Fan]

Now the WAPO settles with Sandmann too

We are pleased that we have been able to reach a mutually agreeable resolution of the remaining claims in this lawsuit"
-- Kris Coratti, spokeswoman for the Washington Post​

This is one of Sandmann's lawyers

 

[mchammer]

If I ran my own firm that was already making money, I might take some of these for free just for the fun of getting to slap around some idiot journalists in depositions.

Or meet some hot trial lawyers that in run in different circles.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Or meet some hot trial lawyers that in run in different circles.

No thanks. First, most of them aren't hot. Second, most of them have annoying chips on their shoulders. I'd never date a trial lawyer chick.

 

[Horn6721]

^ Your wife will be relieved
but Wait She dated a trial lawyer and look what happened?