So what? If he doesn't try to get any Dems to come talk, it's his fault. If he does, it's a waste of time. Give me a break. What the hell are the Wicked Witch and Chukie doing? They are freaking lunatics.
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I don't have a problem with him doing it. Pelosi is basically telling him to **** off and die, and her base and the media are largely cheering her on. There's no downside to trying for a discharge petition. It's just extremely unlikely to work.
Well, I agree it is unlikely to work, but it is an effort that ***** isn't doing. Open the government, then we will talk. ********.
Monahorns
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4th Floor,
I agree with what you are saying but that is more a statement of what did happen not what has to happen. Tax cuts will be used by companies for the biggest perceived improvement. In the current climate, businesses by and large need more workers. The work participation rate is low, unemployment was still marginally high. The extra money was used to hire more people because there were more workers needed. However, in a different instance, like with extremely low unemployment, less tax could be preferentially used to increase wages because the biggest priority would be to keep employees not necessarily hire more of them.
It is a balancing game and I wouldn't fault business owners from using that money how they see the most beneficial.
I agree with what you are saying but that is more a statement of what did happen not what has to happen. Tax cuts will be used by companies for the biggest perceived improvement. In the current climate, businesses by and large need more workers. The work participation rate is low, unemployment was still marginally high. The extra money was used to hire more people because there were more workers needed. However, in a different instance, like with extremely low unemployment, less tax could be preferentially used to increase wages because the biggest priority would be to keep employees not necessarily hire more of them.
It is a balancing game and I wouldn't fault business owners from using that money how they see the most beneficial.
4th_floor
Dude, where's my laptop?
You are absolutely correct that the unemployment rate is a lie. U-6 is a better, but not perfect measure.
BTW, look at the double digit numbers during the Obama years. Wowsers.
4th_floor
Dude, where's my laptop?
Agree. Well managed companies will use the extra money to benefit the company best. The long term trend will be growth and more employment, at least until we are all replaced by a robot.
There's nothing wrong with trying. My only point is that it's not likely to succeed. Obviously Trump is already on the leadership's **** list. It's the Democrats who back a discharge petition who have something to lose by being on the leadership's **** list. They'll be retaliated against.
Joe Fan
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On the other hand, do you know who just posted its lowest economic numbers of the last 28 years?
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Monahorns
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Tariffs will still adversely affect business. There are very many moving parts and tariffs isn't the only part. However, I will say the company I work for is talking about serious financial head winds coming from tariffs resulting in increasing RM costs. It's a real problem and will stagnate the positive effect of the tax cuts.
Joe Fan
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So this has now begun. We are making "asylum seekers" wait in Mexico
Border officers in San Diego to begin forcing asylum applicants to wait in Mexico
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You answered your own question there.
Joe Fan
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He woke now (mostly), since Kavanaugh
I agree. Questioned the Syria pullout announcement but has been very vocal in his Trump support, IMO.
Joe Fan
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The bums and perverts at Politco say there is possible movement. Or it may just be a PR stunt.
Congress agitates to end relentless shutdown
"There's a flurry of movement to end the shutdown on both sides of the Capitol, but no signs that either President Donald Trump or GOP and Democratic leaders are budging enough to end the standstill now on its 32nd day.
A group of centrist House Democrats, sick of political posturing, is pressing Speaker Nancy Pelosi to counter Trump’s immigration proposal with her own potential compromise. The group, led by freshman Rep. Elaine Luria of Virginia, is asking the California Democrat to offer Trump a vote on his border wall or some sort of negotiated security package in February if he first signs a bill reopening the federal government, according to a draft of the letter obtained by POLITICO....."
A group of centrist House Democrats, sick of political posturing, is pressing Speaker Nancy Pelosi to counter Trump’s immigration proposal with her own potential compromise. The group, led by freshman Rep. Elaine Luria of Virginia, is asking the California Democrat to offer Trump a vote on his border wall or some sort of negotiated security package in February if he first signs a bill reopening the federal government, according to a draft of the letter obtained by POLITICO....."
Congress agitates to end relentless shutdown
ProdigalHorn
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Shapiro had a pretty good idea on this: Instead of specifically earmarking the funds for a border wall, allocate the funds to be used at the discretion of the administrators. If the people "on the ground" believe it's better to put the funds toward judges, upgrades, etc.., then so be it.
It is kind of interesting why we typically have no issue throwing billions of dollars at administrators and tell them to make up whatever rules they want on the back end (i.e. Obamacare), but in this case we're being incredibly careful about what those funds must buy.
It is kind of interesting why we typically have no issue throwing billions of dollars at administrators and tell them to make up whatever rules they want on the back end (i.e. Obamacare), but in this case we're being incredibly careful about what those funds must buy.
Joe Fan
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Besides lying, what else do they do?
" .... We apologise unreservedly to The First Lady and her family for any embarrassment caused by our publication of these allegations. As a mark of our regret we have agreed to pay Mrs Trump substantial damages as well as her legal costs."
Melania Trump – An Apology
" .... We apologise unreservedly to The First Lady and her family for any embarrassment caused by our publication of these allegations. As a mark of our regret we have agreed to pay Mrs Trump substantial damages as well as her legal costs."
Melania Trump – An Apology
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Musburger1
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My guess as that come Feb 15th Trump will be forced to use the Executive action to build the wall. Then comes the legal challenges. And by then the House of Representatives will be ramping up impeachment. If things get wacky enough, Trump can always start a war with some country and change the subject. What a train wreck the government has become.
Monahorns
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I agree with ProdigalHorn on this one. Trump needs to find a secretive way to find funding for the wall. Get generic funding to be used with discretion by those on the ground.
Trump was right to tweet that he did this to help Americans while continuing his quest for a wall (I don't even care about the wall, but get his reputation is staked to it).
This approach would be against Trump's usual way of acting though. His strength isn't being subtle but throwing his weight around. Not sure how this will work out.
Trump was right to tweet that he did this to help Americans while continuing his quest for a wall (I don't even care about the wall, but get his reputation is staked to it).
This approach would be against Trump's usual way of acting though. His strength isn't being subtle but throwing his weight around. Not sure how this will work out.
It's being spun as a total defeat for Trump and a total victory for Democrats. In 3 weeks, we'll find out what the truth is.
Seattle Husker
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Oh please. He was backed into a corner from the day he kowtowed to Anne Coulter after she criticized Pence's negotiated funding bill that passed the Senate in December. He had $2B+ for border security then.
He opened the government not because he cared about federal workers but because the situation was about to get unbearably bad as evidenced by Laguardia grounding planes due to not enough air traffic controllers today and 14,000 IRS employees not showing up to work. As federal employees missed paycheck #2 **** was going to get real quickly and everyone but his supporters remembers Trump proudly proclaiming credit for the shutdown. We have video proof although some would likeley try to c as ll it "fakenews". In the end, a winnowing minority feel the wall is worth the shutdown. Trump will call a bogus National Emergency in 3 weeks to save face to his base.
Joe Fan
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Why do you include Trump in your avatar with your other heroes?
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