Rednecks shoot black kid running in neighborhood

[iatrogenic]

Racist “the felon” remark without evidence of a crime, much less a felony crime.

911 operator couldn’t understand the emergency because there was no emergency.

Other than the DA stating he had a juvenile record and that he had to recuse himself because he convicted the turd for a felony previously with McMichael’s help, I have no evidence.

 

[iatrogenic]

But that's where it gets dicey. He did come at them. He did it after their provocation by pulling a gun on him, but he did come at them. Unless they actually had a right to arrest him, that shouldn't save them, but it is relevant.

Did they pull a gun on him? We don’t know. We know they had guns, which is not illegal.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Did they pull a gun on him? We don’t know. We know they had guns, which is not illegal.

The video seems to suggest that they did.

 

[iatrogenic]

Either it shows it or it doesn’t.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Either it shows it or it doesn’t.

It doesn't show when he first pointed the gun. However, he obviously exited the vehicle with the gun. Considering what they were doing and why, it's not crazy to assume the gun was pointed at him. We'll see if there was other evidence or testimony. It doesn't look good.

 

[Run Pincher]

second call to 911 came in at 1:14 pm

"I'm out here at Satilla Shores," the second caller begins and proceeds to state that, "There's a black male running down the street."

The man allegedly shouts "Stop!" several times, with the call going silent for several minutes.

Meanwhile, The Brunswick News reports that Gregory McMichael went inside Travis's home, armed himself and his son, and proceeded to chase Arbery down the street in Travis's pickup truck. Travis reportedly asked Arbery to stop, and when he didn't, the fatal altercation ensued, where Travis fired two shots.

The audio calls into question the McMichael's statements that Arbery was a burglary suspect who had been caught on cameras multiple times. The Brunswick News notes that per county police reports, only one burglary was filed between Jan.1 and Feb. 23: an automobile burglary involving a Smith & Wesson pistol stolen on Jan.1 from a pickup truck outside of Travis McMichael's Satilla Drive home.

The Arbery family's attorney S. Lee Merrit released a statement on Twitter saying: "Mr. Arbery had not committed any crime and there was no reason for these men to believe they had the right to stop him with weapons or to use deadly force in furtherance of their unlawful attempted stop. This is murder."

Even if this is 100% accurate, what does it have to do with race? With wannabe cops like this I'm 100% confident they would've done the same thing had the suspect been white.

 

[theiioftx]

I travel through that part of Georgia frequently. The area is surrounded by water and I am guessing police response times are not especially quick. Regardless, there was no immediate danger and I think the idiots could have simply just kept following him while on the phone with 911. I’ll wait to see evidence that the deceased was committing a crime. That’s why we have a criminal justice system.

 

[UTChE96]

The Arbery family's attorney S. Lee Merrit released a statement on Twitter saying: "Mr. Arbery had not committed any crime and there was no reason for these men to believe they had the right to stop him with weapons or to use deadly force in furtherance of their unlawful attempted stop. This is murder."

LMAO! Quoting someone's lawyer as proof is pretty desperate.

I will trust the District attorney who has no incentive to lie. He used the term "burglarizing" not trespassing.

In a separate document, Mr. Barnhill stated that video exists of Mr. Arbery “burglarizing a home immediately preceding the chase and confrontation.” In the letter to the police, he cites a separate video of the shooting filmed by a third pursuer.

 

[Garmel]

LMAO! Quoting someone's lawyer as proof is pretty desperate.

I will trust the District attorney who has no incentive to lie. He used the term "burglarizing" not trespassing.

Maybe the DA was wrong. However, I doubt he was going through a house being constructed for the hell of it. Probably looking for something to take but that's speculation on my part. We'll find out soon enough.

 

[Austin_Bill]

If you initiate an assault, you don’t get to then claim self-defense if the other person reacts to them being assaulted. Two cars with armed racists ambushed him. And murdered him.

You have one arrow in your quiver and are determined to use it.

 

[Garmel]

Perspective for the race hustlers.

 

[Austin_Bill]

Still, even if Mr. Arbery committed a property crime on the afternoon he was killed, activists and family members said it would not have warranted a chase by armed neighbors."

Again, the question not being asked. If he committed a crime where was the stolen property? Did the killers go through his pockets?

Assuming this and the other articles are accurate, he was very likely the burglar. It also appears one of the vigilantes knew him as a criminal and correctly identified him. As I said before, the vigilantes are still wrong.

If he was a burglar he was a terrible thief since I still have yet to see any reports come forward of a other video, of him actually having stolen property on him. All I'm hearing is excuses of why they were after him. The excuses given sounds more to me like BS cooked up by two guys who attacked the wrong guy and are looking for excuses.

From the new york times "On the day of the shooting, and apparently moments before the chase, a neighbor in Satilla Shores called 911, telling the dispatcher that a black man in a white T-shirt was inside a house that was under construction and only partially closed in.

“And he’s running right now,” the man told the dispatcher. “There he goes right now!”

House under construction? I go into houses under construction all the time, usually for no other reason to see what is being done. Did come out with property? If he did, where was it when he was jogging? None of this stuff has come forward?

Judge denied racists’ bond. Why is that?

Maybe they were denied because they are in the middle of a very charged murder case where if they are freed there would be a lynch mob ready to kill them. Some people are held without bond because they are a flight risk, others for their own safety.

 

[Statalyzer]

House under construction? I go into houses under construction all the time, usually for no other reason to see what is being done.

I have done this also. Guess that means we all have the right to instigate a confirmation anyone of my race, gender, and build by pulling up in a truck and pointing a gun at them!

Also, per Georgia law:

"Wandering, strolling, and walking around a private property which doesn’t have expressed prohibition to enter it do not amount to trespassing unless the person enters the property with unlawful purpose."

 

[Galvestonhorn]

I want to see someone say he was out “jogging” with a straight face.

 

[huisache]

I have been lawyering for 40 years, first 6 as a prosecutor and last 10 as a defense attorney

my advice: wait until the evidence has been sifted before calling people burglars, thieves, racists or murderers

 

[Garmel]

I think Huisache is onto something here. Perhaps we should all wait.

 

[Mr. Deez]

I think Huisache is onto something here. Perhaps we should all wait.

For whatever reason, we don't do that nowadays. We have an insatiable urge to render judgment in a way that reinforces our worldview. To a guy like LH, that means jumping to the conclusion that the shooters were latter-day Nathan Bedford Forrests who just sit around every day waiting for a reason to shoot a black guy and that Arbery was Mother Theresa. To others, they were crime-fighting heroes, and Arbery was dirty thug terrorizing the neighborhood.

 

[UTChE96]

I think Huisache is onto something here. Perhaps we should all wait.

Wrong board.

 

[PecosBill]

Has there been an explanation of why the "third pursuer" per the 2nd DA was there with a canera other than friend. William Bryan

Seems he should have a reason to be there to record the altercation.

 

[LongestHorn]

Has there been an explanation of why the "third pursuer" per the 2nd DA was there with a canera other than friend. William Bryan

Seems he should have a reason to be there to record the altercation.

To block in “the felon” with his truck to cut off his escape. He was part of this diabetes posse.

 

[Creek]

I looked at the video. First off -Those rednecks need not be driving around with shotguns. That is why we have police. If you wanna kill people legally join the army.
Guy was obviously unarmed. And he doesn't need to stop for anyone this side of police. If mf'er tell me to stop while I'm jogging -I may or may not. Those guys should get long sentences-probably death penalty. Really nothing else to worry about.

 

[Garmel]

He was part of this diabetes posse.

LOL! They definitely are fat asses.

 

[Austin_Bill]

I want to see someone say he was out “jogging” with a straight face.

I want you to answer 3 questions for me, and I will answer one for you.

1. Where is the evidence he stole something?
2. Where is the video showing him breaking in?
3. Why did they not stick around and wait for police?

Again, this all happened 3 months ago, and the only reason it's being talked about now is because a video came out showing what happened.

All this happened before the lockdown, for all we know the guy was jogging to the store to get something, a common thing even around Fat Antonio. There seems to be a lot more reasons to suspect he was a jogger than to suggest he was a burglar.

 

[Crockett]

How cute, the convicted felon and thug is smiling. I’m sure his family members with criminal records must have been proud.

Yeah, he carried a pistol to a basketball game instead of doing something really patriotic like carrying an AR15 into the Kentucky State Capitol.

 

[Crockett]

If the 25 year old had not run at the guy with the gun and started fighting, he most likely would be alive. They didn’t just ride up and shoot him. There was a fight over the gun.

That's what they keep telling robbery and rape victims.

 

[iatrogenic]

Those laws just don’t seem to comply with your lib wishes.

 

[Austin_Bill]

All I know is if a guy comes at me carrying a weapon, I'm likely going to flight or fight, and if there is no place to run I'm going to stand my ground and try to take the gun away from him, in all likelihood I get shot and killed just like he got.

 

[iatrogenic]

Remind me not to take you to the deer lease

 

[horninchicago]

Maybe they are racists. What is this woman? A race baiter. Keep repeating the Dem talking point of the Trump rhetoric inciting this kind of thing.
Atlanta Mayor Blames Trump For Ahmaud Arbery Killing: He Gives ‘Racists Permission’

 

[Crockett]

Good question for a self defense expert.... two suspicious armed but not law enforcement people try to detain you. You think your chances are better to fight or comply willingly? I've heard it's better to fight it out in public and at least they will probably get caught. If you get detained... they can kill and torture you at leisure, hide evidence, etc. Also, for a black guy in semi-rural Georgia would same rules apply? Does history show white vigilantes bend over backwards to treat black people fairly...