Protecting our 2nd Amendment Rights

OrangeShogun said:
Comparing the 5.56/.223 cartridge to 9mm is apples to oranges. Damage from a round fired from a rifle is much greater than a round fired from a handgun due to the extreme difference in velocity. Ironically, damage from most all common center fire hunting cartridges (ownership of which you claim to support) is much greater than from a 5.56/.223 round. Not trying to be offensive, but your comments reveal an overall ignorance of firearms and are likely influenced by media demonization of the AR-15 platform.
Your friend is certainly entitled to his opinion, but let's just say I'm glad he's not on the security team at my church.
In case you are unaware, unlawful gun ownership is already a crime.
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People don't normally shoot up malls, churches, schools, etc. these days with deer rifles or shotguns.
 
If the unhinged idiot you talk about was so unhinged do you think a law would have stopped him from buying a gun?
Did your mother express her concerns to anyone but you?
 
OrangeShogun said:
Comparing the 5.56/.223 cartridge to 9mm is apples to oranges. Damage from a round fired from a rifle is much greater than a round fired from a handgun due to the extreme difference in velocity. Ironically, damage from most all common center fire hunting cartridges (ownership of which you claim to support) is much greater than from a 5.56/.223 round. Not trying to be offensive, but your comments reveal an overall ignorance of firearms and are likely influenced by media demonization of the AR-15 platform.
Your friend is certainly entitled to his opinion, but let's just say I'm glad he's not on the security team at my church.
In case you are unaware, unlawful gun ownership is already a crime.
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My next door neighbor, a retired regional head of the U.S. Marshals, agreed with him. They were joking that I was talking about getting a shotgun after the next door German Shepherd killed my daughter's leashed mini Aussie. They both liked the idea of the byrna for daily use. As he said, "I have no problem making a canoe out of some idiot's head, but, things happen and those stray bullets are dangerous."
 
Horn6721 said:
If the unhinged idiot you talk about was so unhinged do you think a law would have stopped him from buying a gun?
Did your mother express her concerns to anyone but you?
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He had guns and there was no valid current reason to not sell them to him. Maybe there should be if you make veiled threats on social media.

Yes, she worked in the courthouse and shared her thoughts with the DA, the Sheriff, etc. They all agreed that he was nuts. He displayed it often on facebook. He thought 12 years was not enough time for a teacher getting busy with 15-17 year old boys.
 
OUBubba said:
People don't normally shoot up malls, churches, schools, etc. these days with deer rifles or shotguns.
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So your argument is to ban the AR-15 because it's the weapon of choice for these crimes, yes? Again, no focus on the criminal or why these events have become more common, just blame it on the tool. Demonize the tool. Then, if/when the AR-15 is banned and the next criminal uses a pistol, pistols will need to be banned. Then rifles, then shotguns, then... Again, this is the left's intention.
 
OrangeShogun said:
So your argument is to ban the AR-15 because it's the weapon of choice for these crimes, yes? Again, no focus on the criminal or why these events have become more common, just blame it on the tool. Demonize the tool. Then, if/when the AR-15 is banned and the next criminal uses a pistol, pistols will need to be banned. Then rifles, then shotguns, then... Again, this is the left's intention.
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I’m happy to attack all areas at once. There are no silver bullets to fix this thing.
 
There are NO bad guns. There are plenty of bad PEOPLE.

The good people should not be deprived of a legal item because bad people misuse it.
 
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Unsure where to place this. However, Alex Jones attorneys inadvertently giving all of his text messages to opposing counsel is almost mistrial laughable. Probably more sue your attorney for malpractice level but I'm not an expert there.
 
Monahorns said:
This is always an accusation the Feds bring up. 99% of the time it is made up whole cloth. I am confident in a month or 2 the child porn charges will either be dropped or not pursued.
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Feds apparently ALREADY investigated and found there was no effort to procure or even LOOK at said images...

But the left will always look to go for the shock value and bury the important detail if it comes to a case like Jones.

We already saw it with the hypocrisy over the flipping of the finger...meanwhile, if the media even COVERED Adam Reposa in his various incidents, they usually giggled about it. Court was not in session, judge not on bench and jury not in the box and things got heated. Should they have flipped off opposing counsel? No. Was there ANY harm? Again, NO.

Ironically, NBC and others who report on the kiddie porn give potential grounds for mistrial by the poisoning of the jury even though instructions are given not to look at ANY form of media while serving...
 
Horn6721 said:
This is a WTF?
"Read more: Dept. Commerce Census Bureau Requesting Sales Records From Gun Holster Companies?


Several major holster manufacturers/providers received notices from the Department of Commerce Census Bureau requesting order numbers, product descriptions, and where the items were being shipped. A few holster companies have refused to turn over the requested information to the federal government.
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tappity tap tap...register...begin survey

"response to question: I am sorry...that information was irretrievably lost during actions committed by an agent of climate change...you might check the river"
 
mb227 said:
Feds apparently ALREADY investigated and found there was no effort to procure or even LOOK at said images...

But the left will always look to go for the shock value and bury the important detail if it comes to a case like Jones.

We already saw it with the hypocrisy over the flipping of the finger...meanwhile, if the media even COVERED Adam Reposa in his various incidents, they usually giggled about it. Court was not in session, judge not on bench and jury not in the box and things got heated. Should they have flipped off opposing counsel? No. Was there ANY harm? Again, NO.

Ironically, NBC and others who report on the kiddie porn give potential grounds for mistrial by the poisoning of the jury even though instructions are given not to look at ANY form of media while serving...
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Hell, that was three years ago. That's an Aggy move there. :)
 
OUBubba said:
Hell, that was three years ago. That's an Aggy move there. :)
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Sad that you don't care you are slandering someone who was cleared BY the federal agency that investigates such issues...somehow I suppose you also took joy in Rep. Walorski's accident today.
 
mb227 said:
Sad that you don't care you are slandering someone who was cleared BY the federal agency that investigates such issues...somehow I suppose you also took joy in Rep. Walorski's accident today.
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Maybe you misunderstood me. It was an aggy move by me. I’d delete it but I want to own my error. That said, Jones is a tool.

Regarding that death:
A. I assume she’s a R from your reference.
B. I don’t even wish that on Jones.
C.
 
Telling that Demx like Bubba haven't offered an explanation why the Census Bureau wants a list of people who have bought holsters.
The Demx must be frantically working on a spin.
 
Horn6721 said:
Telling that Demx like Bubba haven't offered an explanation why the Census Bureau wants a list of people who have bought holsters.
The Demx must be frantically working on a spin.
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I give zero poops and haven’t read any of that. There will be no taking away guns. Hell, they’re raffling off AR15’s in Ulvade. Nuts.
 
OUBubba said:
I give zero poops and haven’t read any of that. There will be no taking away guns. Hell, they’re raffling off AR15’s in Ulvade. Nuts.
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I am a proud owner of a gun I won in a Uvalde raffle. Supplied by Oasis.
You are correct. There will be no taking away guns. FYI, the Oasis has a well stocked ammo supply except for .410 shells.
 
iatrogenic said:
I am a proud owner of a gun I won in a Uvalde raffle. Supplied by Oasis.
You are correct. There will be no taking away guns. FYI, the Oasis has a well stocked ammo supply except for .410 shells.
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iatrogenic, if Robert Francis O'Rourke miraculously wins the Governors race then he will be knocking at your door along with AOC.
:yikes:
 
Horn6721 said:
Bubba
Why would the Census Bureau want to know who bought holsters?
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As I said above. I don't know. I really don't care. Maybe they want to know the % of people who walk around with guns common enough that they have a holster. You think so little of the government yet you think them competent enough to use census questions in coordination with some other entity who's going to try to come get your guns? Seems like a dash of paranoia if you ask me.
 
Horn6721 said:
Bubba
Why would the IRS buy 5 million rounds of ammo?
Who are they going to shoot?
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We've been over this more than a few times. If I remember correctly, the "Dept of Treasury" is listed as the purchaser for many federal agencies who purchase ammunition for daily use. But, hey, child trafficker Matt Gaetz can attempt to distract us from his impending criminal mess by putting in a bill about it. You know, so red meat to chum the waters for the base.
 
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