Orlando Massacre
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Read another article which said that the shooter saw other male couples do more than just kissing. Maybe he was upset, but not for reasons we assumed.
This could be BS put out to take public pressure off the Muslims.
Seattle Husker
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I get that law enforcement may have "placed" the story about his Jacked account but there are multiple witnesses that have come forward separately with the media and said they've seen/spoken to Mateen at Pulse and/or on that site/app.
It's a pretty significant conspiracy theory on the level of something Trump would espouse.
Joe Fan
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Maybe it's based on an assumption that registered Dems are gay
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Seattle Husker
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That's what it sounds like, at least a gay radical Islamic.
No, he was gay for ISIS.
Which candidate is willing to say radical gay Islamic terrrorism?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/gunmans-wife-talk-attack-officials/story?id=39841580
Now his wife knew about the attack, claims she tried to talk him out of it, and never contacted the police?
Now his wife knew about the attack, claims she tried to talk him out of it, and never contacted the police?
Seattle Husker
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Is that like the Log Cabin Republicans?
If so, she's an accomplice. Is that the new wife who thought he was gay?
chango
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We don't take being called gay as a put down, so maybe post a tweet about it.
Clean
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I heard that the Amarillo shooter was a Somali refugee who was relocated there by the Feds.
Amarillo has taken in more immigrants per capita than in city in the country.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/14/a...e-in-texas-town-known-for-accepting-refugees/
I grew up in Amarillo a long time ago and it was a nice place to be a kid. According to the linked article and from what I've heard from people who've been there recently, that may no longer be the case for some areas of town.
Too bad. No good deed goes unpunished.
Amarillo has taken in more immigrants per capita than in city in the country.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/14/a...e-in-texas-town-known-for-accepting-refugees/
I grew up in Amarillo a long time ago and it was a nice place to be a kid. According to the linked article and from what I've heard from people who've been there recently, that may no longer be the case for some areas of town.
Too bad. No good deed goes unpunished.
The Dems have moved on from LGBT and put Muslims at the top of their grievance hierarchy. Once they have a constituency voting for them, they look elsewhere for a new group to prop up so they can buy their vote, nevermind that the groups may not get along. And, it works. They still have the Jews and the Blacks locked up, even tho they do nothing for them anymore. The Dems flew the rainbow flag long enough to lock up LGBT, now they are throwing them under the bus for the Muslims.
Joe Fan
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OK, the one person to be angry about a the Orlando shootings is dead. A man wants to be president of the United States you think he could learn some facts or keep his big mouth shut in favor of offending 1 billion Muslims, a solid majority of which are not our enemies. Maligning Muslims and treating them unfairly is not a recipe or harmony and understanding. Trump is a significant motivator for ISIS and -- as he keeps running his mouth -- those they seek to recruit or influence. Again, unless "Radical Islamic Terrorism" is a magic phrase whose power no one has suitably explained to me, it's just a political talking point for those that seek to divide us.
Ya know, if I was president and some loudmouthed, intentionally ignorant reality TV personality accused me in being cahoots with Muslim terrorists, I'd be pissed too.
Especially when that loudmouth was the presumptive Republican nominee for President of the United States. Trump is about as presidential as Rowdy, the Dallas Cowboys mascot.
Especially when that loudmouth was the presumptive Republican nominee for President of the United States. Trump is about as presidential as Rowdy, the Dallas Cowboys mascot.
Well those same radical islamists that Trump wants to keep out are brutally slaughtering thousands of other Muslims in the most horrendous ways possible in muslim countries
so whenever someone says that Trump, by calling on a cessation of admitting anyone from Muslim countries until we can figure out if we really know who we are admitting is angering muslims I
and ask WHY would it anger the " peaceful" muslims?
WHY aren't they more angered at the radical muslims killing other muslims?
Why wouldn't the ' peaceful muslims here want to make sure radical muslims are not faking docs and coming into our country?
after all the radicals kill muslims who are not following their idea of islam and many Muslims here in USA are living their lives the same way muslims in other countries are that get them murdered by the radicals.
IMO Saying Trump will anger 'peaceful" muslims by wanting us to know who is coming here is either disingenuous or political or both.
so whenever someone says that Trump, by calling on a cessation of admitting anyone from Muslim countries until we can figure out if we really know who we are admitting is angering muslims I
and ask WHY would it anger the " peaceful" muslims?WHY aren't they more angered at the radical muslims killing other muslims?
Why wouldn't the ' peaceful muslims here want to make sure radical muslims are not faking docs and coming into our country?
after all the radicals kill muslims who are not following their idea of islam and many Muslims here in USA are living their lives the same way muslims in other countries are that get them murdered by the radicals.
IMO Saying Trump will anger 'peaceful" muslims by wanting us to know who is coming here is either disingenuous or political or both.
We already carefully vet immigrants. Trump got it wrong when he called the Orlando murderer an immigrant. He was born in the same state Trump was. To put a religious test on immigrants violates the First Amendment, which I know from Facebook posts isn't nearly so important as the Second Amendment, but which I consider the MOST important.
Horn6721, imagine you are a peaceful Muslim from Pakistan, one of thousands, urbane, sophisticated, tolerant about to return to the US for your third year of College at UT. Would being lumped with the Taliban and forced to delay your degree plan because of your religious heritage irritate you?
Horn6721, imagine you are a peaceful Muslim from Pakistan, one of thousands, urbane, sophisticated, tolerant about to return to the US for your third year of College at UT. Would being lumped with the Taliban and forced to delay your degree plan because of your religious heritage irritate you?
You do not need a religious test. How about: "how do you feel about homosexuality?" "How do you feel about Sharia law?" "What do you feel is women's role in society?" etc. etc.
Maybe if Mateen's daddy was vetted better his hate of gays wouldn't have gone kinetic with his son (at least not in the U.S.).
If I were a peaceful Muslim whose entry was delayed I would be angry, and my anger would be directed at my own people because I would notice that they are performing hundreds of acts (maybe thousands) of a horrendous nature throughout the world. I would also know that Islam, from its beginning, has taught its followers to murder, tax, or convert every non-believer. I would be angry, but I would understand.
Maybe if Mateen's daddy was vetted better his hate of gays wouldn't have gone kinetic with his son (at least not in the U.S.).
If I were a peaceful Muslim whose entry was delayed I would be angry, and my anger would be directed at my own people because I would notice that they are performing hundreds of acts (maybe thousands) of a horrendous nature throughout the world. I would also know that Islam, from its beginning, has taught its followers to murder, tax, or convert every non-believer. I would be angry, but I would understand.
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Man you are way more trusting than I am. Look at the performance of the FBI in this case and tell me again how the government is vetting the immigrants?
Seattle Husker
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Remove "Sharia law" and there are some Christians that would fall into that bucket. Like some of our TSA rules, it doesn't actually make us safer but rather offers a false sense of security.
Joe Fan
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Boy identifies as a girl, then he’s a girl.
A gay, Muslim, registered-Democrat identifies as ISIS, then he’s a Republican
The NYT editorial on Orlando where they use this logic -- http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/15/o...-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0
If you read it, look for the words: “Muslim” (I saw zero mentions), “Islam” (zero mentions) or "Immigration" (zero mentions). Unless I missed one.
A gay, Muslim, registered-Democrat identifies as ISIS, then he’s a Republican
The NYT editorial on Orlando where they use this logic -- http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/15/o...-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0
If you read it, look for the words: “Muslim” (I saw zero mentions), “Islam” (zero mentions) or "Immigration" (zero mentions). Unless I missed one.
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Seattle Husker
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Keep in mind, everyone is comparing the investigations that occurred in 2013 and 2014 with Mateen in 2016. Is it possible he wasn't radicalized in 2014 but became more radical since then?
Joe Fan
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Pretending a problem doesnt exist has never resolved anything
Seattle Husker
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Like the civilian use of assault rifles?
Joe Fan
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Boston and San Bernardino disagree. More on the way
Joe Fan
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I disagree with the description, but I dont think anyone pretends they do not exist. They are discussed, debated regularly
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