General Presidential Campaign: Trump vs Hillary
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Seattle Husker
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The OMP (Original Monkey Poop)?
Seattle Husker
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LOL! They "reality checked" a trailer. When you hear "CNN will likely celebrate..." the rebuttal was decided before even understanding the program. Priceless! A rebuttal without even knowing the argument. That sums up the extremes pretty well.
Oh...and MRCTV is a media organization masquerading as an offical 501(c)(3) organization. You have to love their tax exempt mission...to "expose propaganda". The irony is overwhelming.
Joe Fan
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I think everyone here is by now well familiar with your pattern of attacking the source, ignoring underlying the facts. It is overkill at this point to keep doing that. We get it.
Seattle Husker
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I'm not attacking the source, I'm pointing out the bias. We shouldn't point out the bias of the media sources?
You didn't find irony in composing a 3 minute video to rebut a show they hadn't yet seen?
Joe Fan
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I do agree with that idea. But why do you limit yourself to attacking small fry, internet only outfits with little impact. Why are you never willing to take this standard you just articulated and apply it to the big boys, like CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, PBS, MSNBC?
Seattle Husker
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I have been critical when the situation calls for it. CNN is a prime example. I don't consider MSNBC to be a big boy. To be fully transparent, I rarely visit any of those sites except for CNN and PBS. When is the last time you were critical of a conservative bias source? Foxnews? Brietbart (not a small fry)?
Joe Fan
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I give Fox News crap all the time
Joe Fan
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"Mika Brzezinski says Clinton camp tried to pull her off the air"
http://nypost.com/2016/12/09/mika-brzezinski-says-clinton-camp-tried-to-pull-her-off-the-air/
Given the channel, somewhat surprising it did not work -- this tactic did work for them in the past
Seems almost like Clinton, here, is complaining about the lack of fake news
"Hillary Clinton’s campaign tried to remove an MSNBC personality from the air after she aired criticisms of the Democratic presidential candidate, the host revealed Friday.
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“I was concerned the campaign was not understanding that perhaps there was an arrogance. They needed to sort of get off their high horse and understand that this isn’t over,” Brzezinski said on her show Friday, recalling the criticism she expressed frequently during the campaign.
“I’ll just say it: NBC got a call from the [Clinton] campaign. Like I had done something that was journalistically inappropriate or something and needed to be pulled off the air,” she added.
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Past Clinton campaigns, however, have been successful at muscling NBC to remove talent after on-air criticisms.
David Shuster was suspended for two weeks for airing criticism of the Clinton campaign’s handling of Chelsea Clinton in 2008. Shuster eventually left the network...."
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http://nypost.com/2016/12/09/mika-brzezinski-says-clinton-camp-tried-to-pull-her-off-the-air/
Given the channel, somewhat surprising it did not work -- this tactic did work for them in the past
Seems almost like Clinton, here, is complaining about the lack of fake news
"Hillary Clinton’s campaign tried to remove an MSNBC personality from the air after she aired criticisms of the Democratic presidential candidate, the host revealed Friday.
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“I was concerned the campaign was not understanding that perhaps there was an arrogance. They needed to sort of get off their high horse and understand that this isn’t over,” Brzezinski said on her show Friday, recalling the criticism she expressed frequently during the campaign.
“I’ll just say it: NBC got a call from the [Clinton] campaign. Like I had done something that was journalistically inappropriate or something and needed to be pulled off the air,” she added.
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Past Clinton campaigns, however, have been successful at muscling NBC to remove talent after on-air criticisms.
David Shuster was suspended for two weeks for airing criticism of the Clinton campaign’s handling of Chelsea Clinton in 2008. Shuster eventually left the network...."
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Joe Fan
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The frontrunner to be the next RNC chair is Mitt Romney's niece — who helped deliver Michigan for Trump
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-tr...chigan-republican-as-next-party-chair-2016-12
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-tr...chigan-republican-as-next-party-chair-2016-12
Ah JF
If you read the article you notice the Americans who were secretly influencing another country's election never actually worked directly for Boris but for his daughter.
This is probably how leftist will explain it away.
Or maybe saying it is different because they were hired.
So far BTW there has been zero proof offered by CNN Wapo and certainly not the CIA.
Will we learn the name of the Russian inside Hillary's campaign?
Edit to add lest we forget Ted Kennedy asked the Russians to help the Dems in the 1984 elections
If you read the article you notice the Americans who were secretly influencing another country's election never actually worked directly for Boris but for his daughter.
This is probably how leftist will explain it away.
Or maybe saying it is different because they were hired.
So far BTW there has been zero proof offered by CNN Wapo and certainly not the CIA.
Will we learn the name of the Russian inside Hillary's campaign?
Edit to add lest we forget Ted Kennedy asked the Russians to help the Dems in the 1984 elections
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Clean
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Wonder what time that was, 4PM Eastern? Trump jumped ahead and stayed ahead.
I watched segments from nbc, cbs, abc, and pbs coverage election night. It was fun to watch the smiles fade from their faces starting about 10PM eastern time, when it began to sink in that maybe, just maybe, Hillary might not win.
Joe Fan
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Another Kennedy effort that went off the bridge
Obama himself has been doing quite a bit himself more recently
Obama/Hillary/Soros/Rice were behind the huge mess in Ukraine
Obama certainly stuck his big nose into Syrian politics
+ Libya
+ Egypt
+ Somlia, Mali, N. Korea, the UK referendum, Iran, Israel, Cuba.....
The entire argument is both specious and hypocritical. I think they will drop it soon, just as soon as they figure out what to move onto next.
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Seattle Husker
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Did that look like a hotel room? It looked like backstage of a debate or speech which would make more sense but let's assume Bill Clinton screamed like a little girl on election night even though it doesn't make any sense. It's more fun that way.
Seattle Husker
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Since the US has interfered via the CIA in other elections (sponsored by both Rep/Dem administrations) to our advantage we should not attempt to understand (or stop?) interference in our own elections. Move along...nothing to see here. This is all a Red Herring according to the Trumpsters.
Joe Fan
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Seattle Husker
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Or maybe you are trying real hard to downplay a serious issue? You appear to be throwing up a blatant smokescreen.
The next step is usually questioning my reading comprehension. Admit it...that was your first reaction, right?
Seattle Husker
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As if on cue, Trump tries to change the news cycle away from Russian interference in the election. Hopefully the media doesn't fall for the tactic this time.
Joe Fan
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Seattle Husker
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Agreed. I'm just pointing out the attempt to change the conversation. You've pointed out this strategy of Trump's many times.
Specifically, I'm sure some people in his transition team are telling him that criticizing the CIA, who he'll soon prevail over, is not the wisest of moves. Now he simply wants to change the narrative to something else.
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I35
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Hillary isn't Russian.
Serious issue? It's serious alright and a certain female ought to pay her debt to society behind bars.
Yes, Putin made Hillary have a private server. Putin made Hillary delete thousands and thousands of emails. Putin made Hillary bash all of her electronics to prevent seeing what's on them.
Joe Fan
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Why suddenly pretend to care about this stuff?
Dems were not bothered in 1983. That is when then-Senator Ted Kennedy wanted to run for president. He sent his pal John Tunney to Moscow to tell the USSR (Yuri Andropov) he wanted a deal --
-- "(Ted) Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. “The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations,” the memorandum stated. “These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign.”
Kennedy offered to help Andropov get TV interviews in the US, and to visit Moscow. This was probably treason but Dems just ignored it, as if nothing ever happened.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/te...eagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html
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Nor were Dems bothered in 1960.
-- "In 1960, they held U-2 pilot Gary Powers after his plane crashed illegally in Russia, and specifically delayed his release until after the presidential elections. They used Powers as a bargaining chip, and, according to Khrushchev himself, it worked. In his memoirs, the Soviet leader stated, “We kept Nixon from being able to claim that he could deal with the Russians; our ploy made a difference of at least half a million votes, which gave Kennedy the edge he needed.”
https://www.conservativereview.com/...interference-in-us-elections?cr_activetab=bio
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Need something more recent?
Dems were not bothered by Obama in 2012 either. This one is all Obama. He met with Putin stooge and then-Russian President Dmitri Medvedev in March 2012. Obama did not know his mic was live (oops). On the tape, Obama was caught telling Medvedev --
-- “On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space.”
Medvedev replied, “Yeah, I understand, I understand your message about space. Space for you…”
To which Obama said, “This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility.”
Medvedev answered genially, “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.”
After this conversation, Dems spent the rest of the election cycle mocking Mitt Romney for stating that Russia posed the greatest geopolitical threat to the US. Obama chided: “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back.” Obama, of course, then handed control of Syria to Putin, followed by stepping aside as Russia invaded Ukraine.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/u...crophone-telling-medvedev-of-flexibility.html
So forgive the rational-thinking Americans for not taking you serious this time.
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