Omniscient.one, as your name suggests, you are all-knowing and clearly superior to all others on this board. I defer to your genius and will no longer engage with you because I am not worthy.
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Great Hills Horn
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You're definitely right about that. Most of the Fortune 500 and the majority of large public corporations are in an out out battle to hire black and minority candidates to promote unity and diversification. I've been told 3x by recruiters I was the best candidate, but they had to hire a minority. I was also forced to hire a minority engineer candidate over a much better qualified white male by my own HR department. It's a good thing we have people like you keeping tabs on the hiring of major corporations to show what's really going on.
zuckercanyon
2,500+ Posts
I grew up with a guy who couldn't speak much English when he was in 4th grade. Got his HS diploma and went to work as a manager for a retail store. His bonuses were $100k plus. Not sure of his status today, but our country is geared towards hard work/effort/education will get you relative success. Now, would there be places that wouldn't hire someone from Hispanic lineage? You bet. However, someone did hire him and he got the opportunity and ran with it. Are there work places/companies with no minorities? I'm sure there is. But it's not every company. It's their right to pick and choose who they want, and if they're eliminating someone on skin color, these days it could mean they get someone white who isn't as good as that non-white person, so they could lose out financially because of it. And more and more people know that. However, trying to force that down someone's throat will just make them dig in their heels and say "now I'm really not doing it". I doubt that the numbers of non-whites that are hard-working and educated that just can't get solid paying employment is that big of a number. You can't legislate morality and you cannot legislate fairness because life (now, I've heard this but haven't experienced it) is supposedly unfair. If black people are asking for more fairness from the world, it could backfire. Go about your business, get your degree, and apply for that job. Shocking news, I've been on job interviews (when I got summoned for one), and I didn't get the job. Sometimes, I didn't even get a call when I'd sent my resume (but it's my right to be interviewed, I mean, I sent the application). Sure people are biased (all people), but not everyone.
moondog_LFZ
5,000+ Posts
Wow!
You're sarcasm meter doesn't even exist.
I'm the liberal ***-hole around here and don't you forget it.
We don't respond to each other like that around here.
Cool your jets.
Maybe you should read some more of my posts.
Check out the Posting Guidelines on your break.
Please be respectful of your fellow members, as well as the coaches and players. Personal attacks, name-calling and aggressive messages are not acceptable.
@moondog_LFZ and @PecosBill, you know, I don't see it 99% of the time, but I got to thinking and recalled something that happened way back in 2011.
I flew to Vegas with a guy and we were driving down the Strip one day. Middle of the day and 2 black women were fighting on the sidewalk. All out hair pulling, scratching, you name it, brawl. He looks at me and says, "Dumb ni**** *******".
I said hey man, they are low class for sure, as would 2 white or Asian or whatever women be for doing that. But, if you say that sort of thing around me again, they'll be sending a new pilot out here as you gather your teeth. Or something to that effect.
Last trip I ever flew with that guy. Amazing.
So, yes, of course racism exists. From white to black, black to white and everything in between.
But hey, that's just my limited experience I guess.
I flew to Vegas with a guy and we were driving down the Strip one day. Middle of the day and 2 black women were fighting on the sidewalk. All out hair pulling, scratching, you name it, brawl. He looks at me and says, "Dumb ni**** *******".
I said hey man, they are low class for sure, as would 2 white or Asian or whatever women be for doing that. But, if you say that sort of thing around me again, they'll be sending a new pilot out here as you gather your teeth. Or something to that effect.
Last trip I ever flew with that guy. Amazing.
So, yes, of course racism exists. From white to black, black to white and everything in between.
But hey, that's just my limited experience I guess.
PecosBill
1,000+ Posts
I grew up in Austin, Texas and attended AISD public schools in South Austin. There were two black kids in my 7th grade class of 300.
During the Vietnam War the nightly news would show footage from the front and I was curious that so many of the soldiers were black.
Later in the war Nixon (I think )implemented the draft lottery to spread the draft across a wider groups of American society rather than predominantly the poor and the high school dropouts.
In the early 70s, SCOTUS decided Separate but Equal was not equal and ordered integration of public scholls thru busing. In Austin the black HS was closed and the black kids were bussed to the white HS. The Dean of Boys assigned select groups of white students (mostly extra curricular students like FB players, student leaders etc) to shadow a selected black student with the instruction what happens to him happens to you. There were 6 black kids in my HS graduation class of 450.
Because of the draft lottery, a college deferral was the ticket to safety in turbulent times so I made sure I had the grades and SAT scores to get into the University of Texas. I was the 2nd generation of which is now 4th generation to attend UT Austin.
The race riots and antiwar protests of the period 1968 to 1974 made the Seattle CHAZ of today look like Sunday school and it was the backdrop of my college experience.
During this time of growing up in Austin was the constant of attending UT football games in the fall. $5 knothole tix in the endzone as a kid, student seating on the Eastside student section with pregame at Scholtz's(yes we had 18 y o drink for awhile) and friends season tix after graduation. Joined the LHF and have been a season ticket holder member for a long, long time.
From DKR to TH missed a few but not many home games and yes I'm a fan.
My degree from UT was instrumental in getting a job offer that allowed us to stay in Austin rather than moving to West Texas, Dallas or Houston where all the real job growth was.
My point in all this as a white male growing up in Austin Texas the opportunities available to me were only limited by my ability and desire to achieve. My family was not rich and I worked construction and owned a construction company from grade 7 to graduate debt free in 1978. Good times.
The education opportunity I was offered was not available to everyone then and has improved significantly in Texas. Our grandkids know that if they make their grades a Texas public university education is the reward for their efforts. Hopefully a next generation in the making.
Through all the turbulent times I knew that I was able to determine my future through my own efforts and take advantage of the opportunities available to me.
Hook'em Horns.
During the Vietnam War the nightly news would show footage from the front and I was curious that so many of the soldiers were black.
Later in the war Nixon (I think )implemented the draft lottery to spread the draft across a wider groups of American society rather than predominantly the poor and the high school dropouts.
In the early 70s, SCOTUS decided Separate but Equal was not equal and ordered integration of public scholls thru busing. In Austin the black HS was closed and the black kids were bussed to the white HS. The Dean of Boys assigned select groups of white students (mostly extra curricular students like FB players, student leaders etc) to shadow a selected black student with the instruction what happens to him happens to you. There were 6 black kids in my HS graduation class of 450.
Because of the draft lottery, a college deferral was the ticket to safety in turbulent times so I made sure I had the grades and SAT scores to get into the University of Texas. I was the 2nd generation of which is now 4th generation to attend UT Austin.
The race riots and antiwar protests of the period 1968 to 1974 made the Seattle CHAZ of today look like Sunday school and it was the backdrop of my college experience.
During this time of growing up in Austin was the constant of attending UT football games in the fall. $5 knothole tix in the endzone as a kid, student seating on the Eastside student section with pregame at Scholtz's(yes we had 18 y o drink for awhile) and friends season tix after graduation. Joined the LHF and have been a season ticket holder member for a long, long time.
From DKR to TH missed a few but not many home games and yes I'm a fan.
My degree from UT was instrumental in getting a job offer that allowed us to stay in Austin rather than moving to West Texas, Dallas or Houston where all the real job growth was.
My point in all this as a white male growing up in Austin Texas the opportunities available to me were only limited by my ability and desire to achieve. My family was not rich and I worked construction and owned a construction company from grade 7 to graduate debt free in 1978. Good times.
The education opportunity I was offered was not available to everyone then and has improved significantly in Texas. Our grandkids know that if they make their grades a Texas public university education is the reward for their efforts. Hopefully a next generation in the making.
Through all the turbulent times I knew that I was able to determine my future through my own efforts and take advantage of the opportunities available to me.
Hook'em Horns.
@PecosBill, yes, absolutely. That was my point in my comment about my friend. He didn't limit himself because he was black. Maybe he had to work harder, not sure. He never seemed to indicate that he was held back for being black. His dad was actually a very successful exec for GM at the plant in Arlington, but his parents divorced. He lived with his mom, who struggled to provide for him.
Anyway, I hope it all gets resolved.
Anyway, I hope it all gets resolved.
PecosBill
1,000+ Posts
Sorry black congressmen were not on my list.
Oh I thought I saw that you had posed the query asking the % of black senators. I just lumped it all as Congressmen.
I was using a bit of smartassery as well in wondering why it has only now become offensive to have those in the Halls of Congress.
PecosBill
1,000+ Posts
Not sure what FFS means but Atlanta city itself is 52% black and 40% white so a black Mayor, black DA and until recently a black Police Chief is not a surprise.
Pecos
If you research Viet Nam stats ( I did this when someone on here kept claiming blacks disproportionately served and died there) that did not happen
The Truth - The Number Of Black US Soldiers Lost In Vietnam
As pointed out in last paragraph all who served and died should be honored, black white et al BUT it is a disservice to distort the facts
If you research Viet Nam stats ( I did this when someone on here kept claiming blacks disproportionately served and died there) that did not happen
The Truth - The Number Of Black US Soldiers Lost In Vietnam
As pointed out in last paragraph all who served and died should be honored, black white et al BUT it is a disservice to distort the facts
Why it will never matter what "conversations" are held. Why does it matter that this guy is black? But, even being black, protesters still disagree with him. I guess they have all the evidence and know all. They are omniscient. But, CNN feels it necessary to say "Black Sherriff".
Rayshard Brooks: A black sheriff says the police shooting was 'justified.' Atlanta's mayor and protesters disagree - CNN
Rayshard Brooks: A black sheriff says the police shooting was 'justified.' Atlanta's mayor and protesters disagree - CNN
This^^^^^^^^
Combined with a necessary extermination of the extreme profitability and "fringe benefits " of serving today
That avatar is making me hungry
PecosBill
1,000+ Posts
I agree we should use the actual facts and circumstances of the times to avoid distortion for any reason.
I hope we can agree that more combat troops died than Command or Logistics based soldiers away from the conflict.
From the attached links:
Of all enlisted men who died in V'nam, blacks made up 14.1% of the total. This came at a time when they made up 11.0% of the young male population nationwide.
Of the 7262 blacks who died, 6, 955 or 96% were Army and Marine enlisted men. The combination of our selective service policies, our AFQT testing of both drafted and volunteers, the need for skilled enlisted men in many areas of the armed forces, all conspired to assign blacks in greater numbers to the combat units of the Army and Marine Corps. Early in the war, when blacks made up about 11.0% of our V'nam force, black casualties soared to over 20% of the total (1965, 1966). Black leaders protested and Pres Johnson ordered that black participation should be cut back in the combat units. As a result, the black casualty rate was cut to 11.5% by 1969.
After the 1968 election. Nixon ordered that the draft be based on a national lottery by birth date to widen the pool of draftees to the general population.
Not sure who www.rense.com or www.users.iafrica.com/p/pb/pbs/ is but the author of your link is
By David Horowitz Editor-in-Chief
FrontPageMagazine.com
President of the Center for the Study of Popular Culture
Here are some sources that provide data by year and draft status for your review.
Vietnam War Deaths, by Race, Ethnicity and Natl Origin
Vietnam War U.S. Military Fatal Casualty Statistics
Yeah....and Ben Carson, Condoleezza Rice, and Alexander Hamilton (a black, conservative public policy analyst and radio personality)and many others are terrible people and horrible role models for young black people. But 2Chainz is awesome.
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We know the political coordination of the Left (not as if the right doesn't coordinate) is highly pronounced. The role models are politically useful. It's that simple. Those who think independently are political enemies. It's incredible how much abuse they must endure to be Conservatives or maybe more accurately; free thinkers. Racism STILL exists in their world yet they have achieved a point of view independent of the aggressive totalitarian socialists. They must overcome racists on the right and vile hateful people on the Left, including people from their own race. They must listen to their own people calling them the worst names imaginable.
And yet, their free minds remain free.
One can say they are bought and paid for, as if left-wing politicians are not. That is the sickening hypocrisy. But why choose a life of abuse when their talents could be easily rewarded if they instead advocated for the totalitarian state?
It's because they know better and they are unwilling to cede our country to the feudal/patronage complex being constructed by the Liberal elite.
Mike the Texan
250+ Posts
Guess they will have to remove his racist humming of the Eyes of Texas while grilling sausage during the Longhorn Network commercial.
He was forced to do it!
I have said this before and will repeat. I was raised in Texas in the 50s and 60s and know what racism looks like, 2020 ain’t it.
Anyone can make it In this country if they want to pay the price. It ain’t race holding anyone back. It may be lack of drive, lack of intelligence, lack of education, lack of a goal or lack of commitment. I would opine it is mostly an over abundance of “poor me” or laziness.
Anyone can make it In this country if they want to pay the price. It ain’t race holding anyone back. It may be lack of drive, lack of intelligence, lack of education, lack of a goal or lack of commitment. I would opine it is mostly an over abundance of “poor me” or laziness.
Omniscient.one
500+ Posts
Omniscient.one, as your name suggests, you are all-knowing and clearly superior to all others on this board. I defer to your genius and will no longer engage with you because I am not worthy.
I was just saying that you made a lot of blanket statements. Didn’t have to crush me with top-notch sarcasm
AustinHorn24
250+ Posts
Anybody on the left who says that racism is so bad that black people can't be successful in America is a fool.
Anybody on the right who says that racism is no big deal, or that racism is rare, or that affirmative action for white people is just as bad as what black folks face, is also a fool.
The system is now structured (as many have noted) to favor blacks overs others for jobs, schools, housing, etc. That is not to suggest that bias and racism does not exist, because it does. But where we are today versus where we were 50 years ago is almost not comparable.
In my judgment no particular group should be given preferential treatment, and no particular group should need preferential treatment.
I will concede though that the black community has a disadvantage, and that to succeed many have a higher hill to climb. My frustration is that this observation is almost exclusively a result of cultural decisions blacks have made...with the help of self-serving race baiters and liberal elites who derive power and satisfaction from sending disingenuous and counter-productive messages to the black community.
PecosBill
1,000+ Posts
In the WSJ today a short article that looks at the 50 years since SCOTUS got involved in civil rights of blacks in the US.
Opinion | Aftershocks of the ‘Dream Deferred’
Still, economic opportunity matters a great deal, especially in the U.S., where the American Dream links liberty to the promise of material progress.
Most of the economic progress of blacks occurred in 1970 to 2000 and was stagnant 2000 to 2020.
1969 - 1999 period:
Poverty rates fell by 8.6% from 32.2% to 23.6% in the next 20 years the poverty rate 2.8% to 20.8% in 2018.
For 1972 to 1999 period:
Median Household Income (adj for inflation) for whites rose by 20% from $55,540 to $66,759 and for blacks rose 32% from $31,963 to $42,196
For 1999 to 2018 the income growth slowed with whites grew by 6.8% and blacks reduced by 2%.
For the period 1969 to 1999:
Median annual earnings for black men grew 26% but fell 4% in the next 20 years. For black women earnings rose by 50% but only 3% in the next 20 years.
For the period 1969 to 1999:
Household wealth for blacks grew from 10% to 16% of white wealth.
In the next 20 years Household wealth has declined to 10%
For the period 1969 to 1999:
Home ownership for blacks rose steadily to 45.9% with a peak of 49.7% in 2004.
Since the 2007-2009 recession, home ownership by 2020 has declined to 44% by 6% from its peak and 2% lower than in 1999.
The economic stagnation numbers for blacks are serious over the past 20 years.
On the positive side, educational opportunities for blacks have improved.
For the period 1969 to 2019:
High school graduation for blacks rose from 32% to 88%
4 year college degree for blacks rose from 5% to 25%
Education has paid off in earnings for blacks as HS graduates earn $7900 more than black dropouts and College graduates earn $23,300 over black HS graduates. The education gap remains as whites earn more at every level of education.
While we discuss how much improvement has occurred over the last 50 years for black Americans the economic reality is very difficult to accept as reaching equality with whites.
But progress has been made.
Opinion | Aftershocks of the ‘Dream Deferred’
Still, economic opportunity matters a great deal, especially in the U.S., where the American Dream links liberty to the promise of material progress.
Most of the economic progress of blacks occurred in 1970 to 2000 and was stagnant 2000 to 2020.
1969 - 1999 period:
Poverty rates fell by 8.6% from 32.2% to 23.6% in the next 20 years the poverty rate 2.8% to 20.8% in 2018.
For 1972 to 1999 period:
Median Household Income (adj for inflation) for whites rose by 20% from $55,540 to $66,759 and for blacks rose 32% from $31,963 to $42,196
For 1999 to 2018 the income growth slowed with whites grew by 6.8% and blacks reduced by 2%.
For the period 1969 to 1999:
Median annual earnings for black men grew 26% but fell 4% in the next 20 years. For black women earnings rose by 50% but only 3% in the next 20 years.
For the period 1969 to 1999:
Household wealth for blacks grew from 10% to 16% of white wealth.
In the next 20 years Household wealth has declined to 10%
For the period 1969 to 1999:
Home ownership for blacks rose steadily to 45.9% with a peak of 49.7% in 2004.
Since the 2007-2009 recession, home ownership by 2020 has declined to 44% by 6% from its peak and 2% lower than in 1999.
The economic stagnation numbers for blacks are serious over the past 20 years.
On the positive side, educational opportunities for blacks have improved.
For the period 1969 to 2019:
High school graduation for blacks rose from 32% to 88%
4 year college degree for blacks rose from 5% to 25%
Education has paid off in earnings for blacks as HS graduates earn $7900 more than black dropouts and College graduates earn $23,300 over black HS graduates. The education gap remains as whites earn more at every level of education.
While we discuss how much improvement has occurred over the last 50 years for black Americans the economic reality is very difficult to accept as reaching equality with whites.
But progress has been made.
Way to make your efficient posting count, Mike!
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