Eagles Requesting Campus Changes

nashhorn said:
In the first discussions of the ‘demands’ I thought the naming of a section of DKR was definitely doable. If Babers suggestion could work to save the Eyes, or is necessary to save the Eyes I’m for it. Seems like a positive and creative idea to me.
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Yes, positive....HOWEVER, their power grab is going to bite them in the butt for YEARS to come...YEARS!!!
I have almost 50 years association with UT...
NEVER did I ever witness a minstrill show or know THE EYES was ONE NIGHT 117 years ago...and for kids that just stepped foot on campus telling me I should be shamed because of the RACIST undertones is as TOTALLY OBSURD AS THE LEADERS OF BLM COMING TO GET ALL YOUR HOMES TO GIVE THEM TO BLACK PEOPLE...AND ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE TO WILL THEIR HOMES TO BLACK PEOPLE....COMPLETE AND TOTAL OBSURD INSANITY...
AND NOW, "TEXAS, you can SAVE FACE BY GIVING US THIS"
AND ACHO saying "NO BLACK PLAYERS WANTED TO SING THAT SONG...WE WERE FORCED TO"...
WELL, I am totally fine with going 0-12 until we can find those that are PROUD to be a LONGHORN....
 
Run Pincher said:
Your last sentence suggests that blacks should be dependent on government, society to equalize those numbers. And that's the real root issue. Only blacks can equalize those numbers by making the EFFORT required to go to college, get a degree and EARN a great living. That certainly includes being a present father, responsible mothers, delaying gratification, staying off drugs, not committing crime, sticking to a tough job, saving, and most important, not believing the lies pushed to keep them down and voting democratic.

I've been in the business world a long time and know a whole lot of business owners and top execs. Nearly all of them would love to hire a black person but they can't find qualified candidates, or when they do the person won't stay on the job.

I was taught no matter what obstacles life throws at you, it's just another opportunity to overcome. When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Life is about overcoming obstacles. And that's the case for all races except the white elite that make up less 5% of the population. I can guarantee you it's tougher for poor whites than poor blacks because I've been around both enough to know.

So even if systemic racism did exist (and I've been around long enough know that's ridiculous), so what? Why not decide I'm not going to let anything hold me back? I'm not going to let anyone or anything keep me down? I'm going to make something of my life and be successful regardless of what obstacles are thrown at me?

There's 2 types of people in this country. One finds an excuse and the other finds a way to succeed.
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But...But....But...its so much easier to make excuses and if its all GIVEN to them. not all blacks/minorities feel this way, but MANY do.
 
Chin,

I understand what you are saying, and submit to you that at least they consider with some affiliation with the school, unlike Fenves, who put together a group of narrow minded people that have noting but contempt and have never sat in a classroom on campus, BUT they support his selfish wants and Cali-prune-ya liberal biases.

That said, Jay & Chris have, are, and continue to reach out to alums and supporters for input and their opinions, while giving positive reassurances.
 
Chin, went through the ring baloney myself. When young son graduated, he wanted to have one like mine. Texas Exes said they don’t sell that ring anymore. I found the company that had the mold, but was told they couldn’t make it because the Texas Exes controlled and would only permit the Exes design. They also said if I obtained approval from the Exes, they would make the ring. I thought, no problem. I then started a three week dog and pony show with the Exes, being told NO at each bureaucratic level. When I made my way up to the Exes president, he wrote a letter to allow the exception. He also didn’t seem to understand why the bureaucrats made it a big deal.
 
Thinking ahead, if they make a Julius Whittaker section who sits in the section?
Will it just be just be regular stadium seating or something else?
 
It’s either a general section for admission purposes or, if Babers gets his wish, a section for the band. That’s what I would think.
 
The team parents & the visiting recruits and their families sit on the east side around section 27/28. I think that would be an appropriate section - families of present and future Longhorns might send a positive signal.
 
nashhorn said:
It’s either a general section for admission purposes or, if Babers gets his wish, a section for the band. That’s what I would think.
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I have a better idea. Put a statue of Whitaker right by the tunnel exit so when the players run out onto the field they go right by him. Or name the new south end zone the Julius Whittaker South Endzone. Or name the tunnel after him.
 
IvanDiabloHorn said:
Thinking ahead, if they make a Julius Whittaker section who sits in the section?
Will it just be just be regular stadium seating or something else?
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Babers suggested it be the LH Band section so that when they play "The Eyes" the fans and players would be looking toward the proposed "julius Whittier Section"
 
MC,

I was brought in by seven tribes (I think that's the number) in the northwestern US to consult on a business deal, which if made, would pay me handsomely, but even more to my grandchildren.

The tribal attorney picked me up and drove me to the meeting. My opening statement was, "My grandmother was full blood Cherokee. No member of my family is hyphenated. If that offends you. take me back to the airport. If not, let's talk business." Spent three days there.
 
TEXnSEATTLE said:
Yes, positive....HOWEVER, their power grab is going to bite them in the butt for YEARS to come...YEARS!!!
I have almost 50 years association with UT...
NEVER did I ever witness a minstrill show or know THE EYES was ONE NIGHT 117 years ago...and for kids that just stepped foot on campus telling me I should be shamed because of the RACIST undertones is as TOTALLY OBSURD AS THE LEADERS OF BLM COMING TO GET ALL YOUR HOMES TO GIVE THEM TO BLACK PEOPLE...AND ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE TO WILL THEIR HOMES TO BLACK PEOPLE....COMPLETE AND TOTAL OBSURD INSANITY...
AND NOW, "TEXAS, you can SAVE FACE BY GIVING US THIS"
AND ACHO saying "NO BLACK PLAYERS WANTED TO SING THAT SONG...WE WERE FORCED TO"...
WELL, I am totally fine with going 0-12 until we can find those that are PROUD to be a LONGHORN....
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Does anyone listen to Acho?
He reminds me of Michael Irvin...
I cringe when he speaks.
 
RainH2burntO said:
Speak of the devil...

I'll kill two birds with one stone here...
We've got The Minister of Culture apology and commitment on E. Achos internet show...

McConaughey says he needs to be a better white guy

Matthew McConaughey Vows to "Do Better as a White Man" in Candid Conversation With Emmanuel Acho - E! Online
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Without clicking on the link what exactly does Matthew need to do better? Does he admit to having racist or discriminatory tendencies that he somehow needs to correct? Or is he just pandering because it's the thing to do right now if you are a celebrity?
 
2003TexasGrad said:
Without clicking on the link what exactly does Matthew need to do better? Does he admit to having racist or discriminatory tendencies that he somehow needs to correct? Or is he just pandering because it's the thing to do right now if you are a celebrity?
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It would be quite the conundrum for the average non-movie star non-woke type of person.

Maybe he should give up being on the sidelines and speaking to the team. He has obviously helped create the unjust atmosphere.
 
horninchicago said:
It would be quite the conundrum for the average non-movie star non-woke type of person.

Maybe he should give up being on the sidelines and speaking to the team. He has obviously helped create the unjust atmosphere.
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You know I give Liam Neeson a ton of credit for coming out a couple of years ago and admitting that as a young man he went out looking for a Black person to beat the crap out of after one of his family members had been assaulted by a Black man. He says he was wrong to have that reaction but he had the guts to say what he did and I actually respect him more for it.
 
2003TexasGrad said:
You know I give Liam Neeson a ton of credit for coming out a couple of years ago and admitting that as a young man he went out looking for a Black person to beat the crap out of after one of his family members had been assaulted by a Black man. He says he was wrong to have that reaction but he had the guts to say what he did and I actually respect him more for it.
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That is a good thing. But, I just think MM is pandering.
 
2003TexasGrad said:
Without clicking on the link what exactly does Matthew need to do better? Does he admit to having racist or discriminatory tendencies that he somehow needs to correct? Or is he just pandering because it's the thing to do right now if you are a celebrity?
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He is pandering because it's the thing to do right now if you are a celebrity
 
mchammer said:
@SabreHorn All is not lost:

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I told you guys about the history of my family. Rachael Parker Plummer was 5 years a slave to the Comanches where she had to watch them bash her new born baby to death because he was getting in the way of her doing her work. Her first born son was also captured by them and killed.

Maybe I should make a movie called 5 years a slave.
 
SabreHorn said:
Chin,

I understand what you are saying, and submit to you that at least they consider with some affiliation with the school, unlike Fenves, who put together a group of narrow minded people that have noting but contempt and have never sat in a classroom on campus, BUT they support his selfish wants and Cali-prune-ya liberal biases.

That said, Jay & Chris have, are, and continue to reach out to alums and supporters for input and their opinions, while giving positive reassurances.
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Thx. Good to know. I am a fan of Chris and think he might be the best hire the school has made in a very long time. It’s time I stop bitching and reach out to him. It will make me feel beter.
 
tchill said:
That is ******** and you know it.
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Many white kids grow up in poverty, with abusive parents or with absent parents, or indifferent parents in desolate neighborhoods (whether rural or otherwise). To say these folks have privilege is an abomination. Further, white folks face discrimination too. UT has gone to the SCOTUS twice because of their racist admission policy. Job discrimination against whites in corporate America is rampant. Yelling white privilege is akin to focusing on a single variable in a multi-variable world, but the yeller wants 100% control of the conversation.
 
Acho is a sanctimonious A-Hole! His St. Marks education Lords over we peasants!
If you didn’t know that, don’t worry, he’ll remind you every chance he is given.

TOOL!
 
Htown77 said:
Why do we today think the civil war was over slavery and slavery alone? A variety of reasons:

1. The abolitionists did feel this way. I do not deny there were rich slave holders in the south that did care mostly about what they viewed to be their property. However, neither the pro or anti slavery extremists were the majority.. no more than pro life or pro choice extremists are the majority in the US in 2020.

2. The North won and wrote the history. Due to the north's pilgrim roots and misguided belief in american exceptionalism and the "shining city on the hill" and beacon of freedom, etc., they needed to be painted as the good guys and the south as evil. See, even @Mr. Deez admits in abstract the South had the democratic right to secede. If the North was remembered as denying democratic freedom in the South, the North and therefore, the U.S., would be seen as anti-democratic. However, if the south was a bunch of evil slaveholders and only wanted to be independent due to the slavery and states rights only meant slavery... well then the north was justified invading and taking away the freedom of another democracy.

3. History has been simplified and our eduction dumbed down. Nowadays our education system has decided it would take too long to actually teach the many nuances of the civil war and American in history in general. It is easier to say "the Civil War was slavery. The north was good and south bad." Now, this dumbing down is driving people to go "oh, all these southerners were just evil white supremacists unworthy of praise and they should be removed."
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Every southern state's article of secession mentions slavery as a reason for secession.
 
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