Dumb Political Correctness

[Brad Austin]

LeSean McCoy calls it like it is on the Kaepernick drama. Basically said he's just not good enough to warrant the distractions he brings. Some players are, he isn't.

The 5-time Pro Bowl RB made numerous good points in this vid. Very refreshing to hear an elite current NFL player break it down so well.



"It’s a lot more than just he’s not on the team because he doesn’t want to stand for the national anthem. That may have something to do with it, but I think also it has a lot to do with his play. I’m sure a lot of teams wouldn’t want him as their starting quarterback. That chaos that comes along with it, it’s a lot. As a team, trying to win and not have a distraction on the team, I just take that as a player – there’s certain players that could be on the team with big distractions, and there’s other players that it’s not good enough or not worth it. I think his situation is not good enough to have him on the team with all the attention that comes along with it."

 

[Mr. Deez]

LeSean McCoy calls it like it is on the Kaepernick drama. Basically said he's just not good enough to warrant the distractions he brings. Some players are, he isn't.

The 5-time Pro Bowl RB made numerous good points in this vid. Very refreshing to hear an elite current NFL player break it down so well.



"It’s a lot more than just he’s not on the team because he doesn’t want to stand for the national anthem. That may have something to do with it, but I think also it has a lot to do with his play. I’m sure a lot of teams wouldn’t want him as their starting quarterback. That chaos that comes along with it, it’s a lot. As a team, trying to win and not have a distraction on the team, I just take that as a player – there’s certain players that could be on the team with big distractions, and there’s other players that it’s not good enough or not worth it. I think his situation is not good enough to have him on the team with all the attention that comes along with it."

McCoy is right. It's a balance. If you're a good player, the distraction can be worthwhile. If you're mediocre or worse, it's not.

What I think is remarkable is that some on the Left smugly and happily point out that alt Right people who are getting fired from their day jobs deserve what's happening to them and have no right to complain but think Kaepernick is suffering some big Injustice.

 

[bystander]

McCoy is right. It's a balance. If you're a good player, the distraction can be worthwhile. If you're mediocre or worse, it's not.

What I think is remarkable is that some on the Left smugly and happily point out that alt Right people who are getting fired from their day jobs deserve what's happening to them and have no right to complain but think Kaepernick is suffering some big Injustice.

First, it's work. You're being paid millions to do your job. Part of my job is to enable other people at my office to do theirs. If I am successful at my agenda at the expense of another department (such as causing them stress by not planning ahead but making last minute demands for their input) then I'm not successful at the enterprise level.

Second, recently Nick Saban mocked the attention concerning the eclipse. In my view this is a perfectly benign analogy as he is a control freak and it is my opinion that the hoopla was distracting his team and making his job a bit tougher to focus everyone on the goal at hand which is to defeat Florida State.

It is a distraction though many people attempt to ridicule those who consider it to be so. Add to that his fall as a competent starter and this is what you get.

Third, what about the impact to the brand in the eyes of those who object to misguided attempts to bring attention to his concerns? I'm not here to argue that his concerns aren't valid. There are problems. You can't read the book Serpico and not know there aren't problems even though that book is decades old. And as a personal anecdote, I knew a white guy who used the N word around me who applied to the Dallas Police Academy, was accepted and ranked very high in his graduating class. This is a true story (years ago) and I remember wondering about all of that. But to attack the icons of freedom does not leave normal, moderate people any place to go in this argument. Why demand they disrespect the country or ELSE? Isn't there another way without forcing a particular gesture? It seems the psychological impact of being forced to agree has been ignored; that is not winning the hearts and minds. It is intimidation.

Why not wave a custom made flag with a picture of Dr. King on it right after the anthem has been sung so that the fans can see a different kind of message that still honors the IDEA of America? Then the distraction of whether he is not being patriotic or not would be eliminated and I would think many more of the fans would be on board.

By the way, McCoy is the one who said this about Chip Kelly:

"[Our] relationship was never really great. I feel like I always respected him as a coach. I think that’s the way he runs his team. He wants the full control. You see how fast he got rid of all the good players. Especially all the good black players. He got rid of them the fastest. That’s the truth. There’s a reason. … It’s hard to explain with him. But there’s a reason he got rid of all the black players — the good ones — like that."

 

[theiioftx]

He is right,but should expect to be branded an Uncle Tom.

 

[ProdigalHorn]

And as a personal anecdote, I knew a white guy who used the N word around me who applied to the Dallas Police Academy, was accepted and ranked very high in his graduating class. This is a true story (years ago) and I remember wondering about all of that.

I'm guessing maybe he didn't use the N word on his application?

 

[bystander]

I'm guessing maybe he didn't use the N word on his application?

Nope... I'm just saying... I'm not trying to overplay that comment but it was true. I knew him well. Kind of a sullen guy... does that mean he is out to shoot black people? No. But he wasn't progressive by any means. He's still there. It's been almost 30 years.

 

[Joe Fan]

McCoy is right. It's a balance. If you're a good player, the distraction can be worthwhile. If you're mediocre or worse, it's not.

What I think is remarkable is that some on the Left smugly and happily point out that alt Right people who are getting fired from their day jobs deserve what's happening to them and have no right to complain but think Kaepernick is suffering some big Injustice.

Maybe.
Let us take Tom Brady for example.
The idea here is that the best QB of all time would still have a high paying starting job no matter what he might say (for the purpose of this example, we assume he is a free agent like Kaepernick and could sign with anyone). Right?

But what if Brady said mean things about Obama, and called him names?
What if free agent Brady loudly came out for the Wall, against Obamacare and publicly stated Trump was right the first time about Charlottesville?
What if there was a photo of Brady at 16 years old holding up a Dixie flag?

 

[Mr. Deez]

Maybe.
Let us take Tom Brady for example.
The idea here is that the best QB of all time would still have a high paying starting job no matter what he might say (for the purpose of this example, we assume he is a free agent like Kaepernick and could sign with anyone). Right?

But what if Brady said mean things about Obama, and called him names?
What if free agent Brady loudly came out for the Wall, against Obamacare and publicly stated Trump was right the first time about Charlottesville?
What if there was a photo of Brady at 16 years old holding up a Dixie flag?

Short of being caught dropping n-bombs and burning a cross somewhere, Tom Brady could do whatever he wants. And a halfway decent apology might even get him out of that.

 

[bystander]

Short of being caught dropping n-bombs and burning a cross somewhere, Tom Brady could do whatever he wants. And a halfway decent apology might even get him out of that.

This is the crux I think; everyone knew Greg Hardy beat up his girl friend (or is that still in doubt?) but Jerry Jones signed him anyway. What's worse? That or kneeling during the anthem? Hardy was an attempt to fill a need for the Cowboys that has been a problem for years but should it matter? Jacksonville could use a quarterback. What's the difference?

 

[Joe Fan]

Short of being caught dropping n-bombs and burning a cross somewhere, Tom Brady could do whatever he wants. And a halfway decent apology might even get him out of that.

OK, so as stated above, what if there was a recording of Tom calling Obama one of those words you cant use?
Would Jerry Jones still sign him?
I am trying to find the outer limit. There has to be one

 

[Joe Fan]

Another question for the crowd -- how will CNN makes this storm racist?

 

[Brad Austin]

Hardy was an attempt to fill a need for the Cowboys that has been a problem for years but should it matter? Jacksonville could use a quarterback. What's the difference?

Putting aside their different degrees of baggage...Hardy was considered an elite pass rusher leading up to the Dallas signing. Top 5 at his position.

He had 15 sacks (3rd most in NFL) his last season before being suspended. 27 sacks in his last 31 games before JJ brought him in.

Kap was ranked 23rd last year in adjusted QBR, the most stringent evaluating metric of QB performance. Guy's not even in top 20, much less top 5.

Hardy's baggage was awful in comparison, though signing Kap would probably hit revs much harder. Just proves further elite players are given way more latitude.

 

[bystander]

Putting aside their different degrees of baggage...Hardy was considered an elite pass rusher leading up to the Dallas signing. Top 5 at his position.

He had 15 sacks (3rd most in NFL) his last season before being suspended. 27 sacks in his last 31 games before JJ brought him in.

Kap was ranked 23rd last year in adjusted QBR, the most stringent evaluating metric of QB performance. Guy's not even in top 20, much less top 5.

Hardy's baggage was awful in comparison, though signing Kap would probably hit revs much harder. Just proves further elite players are given way more latitude.

The question is when does the baggage become heavy enough to outweigh the production? Hardy had missed a year. He turned out to be a big disappointment. I'm not sure that was predictable. Jones' daughter took some heat in the Dallas media for coming out in support of the signing. Here is an article about her comments:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...ardy-we-dont-believe-in-throwing-people-away/

"On Sunday, Jones' daughter, Cowboys executive vice president Charlotte Jones Anderson, defended the decision to sign Hardy.

“We don’t believe in throwing people away,” Anderson told the Dallas Morning News. “The experts have told us it is far better to provide a way out, coupled with educational and rehabilitative services and therapy. That does more to protect the victim and prevent future violence than a zero tolerance policy. We have to trust the advice of the experts. I embrace that.”

Anderson was asked about the Dallas mayor's concerns.

“Certainly we are supportive of the mayor’s platform against domestic violence,” she said. “I think you’ve seen that. We’ve been right there along with him supporting that movement.”

Anderson also says she hasn't seen Hansen's diatribe against the Cowboys."

“A lot of people say this is awful, but they don’t know what to do,” Anderson said of domestic abuse. “That’s why this is such an incredible opportunity. That’s why I’m not afraid of this move.

“I’m a mom. I’ve got a daughter, I’ve got two sons. This is a serious issue for me, personally. I want my kids to know that domestic violence is not acceptable. But I also want them to know that if they make a mistake, no matter what the issue is, I’m not just going to throw them out. I’ve got to help them come back and make a better choice.”


It's pretty obvious she had no problem carrying the bags... she fell into the trap of what is known as a false equivalency; a mistake is a mistake. I say that's BS. We see that all the time... Joe Mixon made a mistake. Ray Rice made a mistake.

 

[Mr. Deez]

OK, so as stated above, what if there was a recording of Tom calling Obama one of those words you cant use?
Would Jerry Jones still sign him?
I am trying to find the outer limit. There has to be one

Lol. Jerry doesn't give two squirts of piss about this sort of thing. He'd sign Brady without hesitation. He might be forced to make a BS apology, but he'd sign him.

 

[bystander]

Lol. Jerry doesn't give two squirts of piss about this sort of thing. He'd sign Brady without hesitation. He might be forced to make a BS apology, but he'd sign him.

I am Jerry's biggest detractor around. I have no respect for him at all. This article dove-tails on the Hardy matter but also is an awesome commentary on his ego:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...es-outrageous-comments-greg-hardy-perspective

 

[Joe Fan]

Haha. Yes, true
But even Jerry Jones has a limit (right?)(he cut Jimmy loose)
Where is it, on this sliding scale?

 

[bystander]

"Glory Hole"

 

[Brad Austin]

JJ risked signing Hardy and backs Zeke with 100% resolve, both were/are elite players soaked in domestic violence claims with alleged photo evidence.

But he wouldn't even consider signing Kap for several reasons.

1) He has a top 10 franchise QB

Imagine if Dak missed a few games and Kap played very well going 2-0. The uproar from activists for Kap to keep the job would be insane. Same would happen if Dak had a couple of b2b bad games in losing efforts.

Below are the main reasons JJ wouldn't sign Kap even if Dak went down for the year...

2) His team (voted on by players) petitioned the league to wear an arm in arm helmet logo supporting the Dallas police last year. This support stemmed from the very attack on police many claimed BLM incited.

Kap is a BLM activist and recently equated police with slave catchers and wore pig cops socks during pregame warm-ups last year.

3) The team markets itself as "America's Team". I just bought two shirts (gifts for others) with that very saying at The Star after practice on Wed.

So their brand name (and a large apparel investment) markets them as America's Team yet they'd sign a back-up QB infamous for protesting America and slighting the anthem?

The same guy who went to Africa to celebrate 4th of July stating he refused to celebrate the Independence Day of our discriminating country.

Roger Staubach was known as Captain America. Dallas markets themselves as America's Team. No chance in hell Dallas would sign the poster boy for Anti-American protest.

I couldn't find the full documentary on how they became America's Team but have seen it. Most people that scoff at the America's Team label don't know its history and how it was created and widely accepted starting in the late 70's. This is a short snippet of the doc. It's all good, but the 3:48 mark is a good start point if short on time or interest.

 

[I35]

I am trying to find the outer limit. There has to be one

Maybe slicing two innocent peoples throat and trying to escape in a white ford bronco?

 

[Seattle Husker]

If your a "superstar" player there are certainly different rules than if you're average. Were Kaepernick as good as Russel Wilson he'd be signed. Alas, he's proven to be an average QB. Taking on the baggage for an average QB is akin to the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

It's really the same in any occupation albeit rife with greater media exposure in professional athletics.

If this was Rookie/Sophomore level Kaepernick when he was thought to be the next superstar he'd still be a 49er.

 

[bystander]

1) He has a top 10 franchise QB

Imagine if Dak missed a few games and Kap played very well going 2-0. The uproar from activists for Kap to keep the job would be insane. Same would happen if Dak had a couple of b2b bad games in losing efforts.

I get your point but I would refer to 4-12 when Romo was hurt in order to context the need for a back-up. Besides, the Cowboys are already a circus. If there was ever a franchise that seemed to enjoy the spotlight and distractions it's Jerry Jones' Cowboys.

 

[Brad Austin]

I get your point but I would refer to 4-12 when Romo was hurt in order to context the need for a back-up. Besides, the Cowboys are already a circus. If there was ever a franchise that seemed to enjoy the spotlight and distractions it's Jerry Jones' Cowboys.

If you saw what they're doing with The Star here in Frisco, JJ isn't about to risk his brand and upset massive numbers of Cowboys loyalists.

That place is awesome and it's much more than a training facility. It's an entertainment, hotel (Omni), retail, business district wrapped all around the training center.

Most of the restaurants, sportsbars, shops, etc are still under construction, but getting close. The ones already open are very nice. They already hold several entertainment events (concerts, boxing, HS football, etc) there and will host the NFL draft next year.

The Star is just now busting out and being introduced to Cowboys fans with open training camp practices. No chance he'd rock the boat when making all these moves to greatly expand his business model and the brand is basking in new positive energy.

JJ may do some questionable things, but he's a revolutionary business man. The brand is everything and won't be tarnished with a guy like Kap who half of America detests.

 

[n64ra]

Some poor PR guy ... told to try to figure out a solution not to offend anybody is now learning ... hell yes, people can gripe about six American flags. In a nation of the perpetually offended, everyone interested can find a path to victimhood.

I don't think the news has picked up this angle. Or the other comment that Mexicans could be mad that the Mexican flag was taken down.

 

[Joe Fan]

Maybe slicing two innocent peoples throat and trying to escape in a white ford bronco?

Maybe

 

[Joe Fan]

Another question for the crowd -- how will CNN makes this storm racist?

 

[Joe Fan]

Maybe they just fell over?

 

[Statalyzer]

"Degree of baggage" is not the same as "degree of badness". Tebow and Manziel both were capable enough to be 3rd string QBs at least, rather than out of the league altogether. Manziel is generally thought of as a complete moron. Tebow is generally thought of as a decent guy. But the result was the same - nobody wants a backup who the media pays more attention to than they do to any starter.

So, ironically? enough, the people marching in the streets for Kaepernick to get a job are making his situation worse. If he wasn't in the media spotlight to the extent that he is, it wouldn't be a problem to have him on a roster. Then again, he'd also possibly already be on the Miami roster if he hadn't supported Fidel Castro.

When we let "triggering" and "micro-aggression" enter the normal lexicon we are big trouble.

The sad thing is that "triggering" is a real thing that is important to understand regarding people who have been abused, molested, etc. But the term has been sickeningly usurped and changed to mean "Any situation where I experience negative emotions that make it hard to think rationally about my response"

 

[Phil Elliott]

This whole "triggering" hoopla got off the ground when we made the n-word taboo. It said that there is a word bad enough to excuse any violence that its use brings. So naturally, the definition of words that justify violence had to be expanded to excuse white people who wanted to get in on the act. I never understood why black people wanted to give a word so much power over their emotions, but perhaps it was because they were told to.

 

[bystander]

This whole "triggering" hoopla got off the ground when we made the n-word taboo. It said that there is a word bad enough to excuse any violence that its use brings. So naturally, the definition of words that justify violence had to be expanded to excuse white people who wanted to get in on the act. I never understood why black people wanted to give a word so much power over their emotions, but perhaps it was because they were told to.

I worked with a black lady for a couple of years (1994 - 1996). We discussed the OJ trial and I asked her if a white man used the N word did that mean he could be capable of framing a black man for murder and she said yes. We of course were talking about Mark Fuhrman.

 

[rattfatt]

LeSean McCoy calls it like it is on the Kaepernick drama. Basically said he's just not good enough to warrant the distractions he brings. Some players are, he isn't.

The 5-time Pro Bowl RB made numerous good points in this vid. Very refreshing to hear an elite current NFL player break it down so well.



"It’s a lot more than just he’s not on the team because he doesn’t want to stand for the national anthem. That may have something to do with it, but I think also it has a lot to do with his play. I’m sure a lot of teams wouldn’t want him as their starting quarterback. That chaos that comes along with it, it’s a lot. As a team, trying to win and not have a distraction on the team, I just take that as a player – there’s certain players that could be on the team with big distractions, and there’s other players that it’s not good enough or not worth it. I think his situation is not good enough to have him on the team with all the attention that comes along with it."

Typical, let a few black people come out and say something negative about him and of course white are going to wet themselves. All LeSean McCoy is doing is tap dancing for Massah.