This story can't be true though because only racist white cops incorrectly arrest black people. Stupid white cops don't just go around arresting white female nurses without cause.
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This story can't be true though because only racist white cops incorrectly arrest black people. Stupid white cops don't just go around arresting white female nurses without cause.
If the patient wasn't suspected of a crime, then why the hell did the police want a blood draw?
Joe Fan
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Any time there is a collision resulting in death, it’s normal to determine if anybody involved was impaired. Because Gray was transported to Salt Lake City, Logan police officers on scene asked Salt Lake police to obtain a blood sample from Gray.
Salt Lake Detective Jeff Payne, a trained phlebotomist, responded to obtain a blood sample from Gray, but Gray was unconscious.
Nurse Alex Wubbels told Payne that an agreement between the hospital and police department does not allow for a warrantless blood draw without patient consent or without the patient being under arrest.
Detective Payne consulted with the watch commander, Lt. James Tracy, who told him to arrest Wubbels for interfering with the investigation if she didn’t allow him to draw blood from Gray.
Wubbels went over the policy with the detective again, and Detective Payne arrested Wubbels. Bodycam video of the incident shows the arrest.
Wubbels was later released without charges and the police department has launched an internal investigation.
Salt Lake Detective Jeff Payne, a trained phlebotomist, responded to obtain a blood sample from Gray, but Gray was unconscious.
Nurse Alex Wubbels told Payne that an agreement between the hospital and police department does not allow for a warrantless blood draw without patient consent or without the patient being under arrest.
Detective Payne consulted with the watch commander, Lt. James Tracy, who told him to arrest Wubbels for interfering with the investigation if she didn’t allow him to draw blood from Gray.
Wubbels went over the policy with the detective again, and Detective Payne arrested Wubbels. Bodycam video of the incident shows the arrest.
Wubbels was later released without charges and the police department has launched an internal investigation.
Just to be clear, I think it was a bad arrest. But, I'm not a cop or lawyer, and it has been made clear on the board after the game yesterday, that in no way am I allowed to opine on this.
Joe Fan
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If you can't argue against somebody's position, just lie about the person's motives, establish those false motives as a straw man and then bash them until the person's original point gets lost. Link.
Unfortunately, that's pretty much what political debate has become nowadays. It's making us dumber even as we're becoming more "educated" or too often, mal-educated.
Unfortunately, that's pretty much what political debate has become nowadays. It's making us dumber even as we're becoming more "educated" or too often, mal-educated.
Seattle Husker
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That sums up the alt-right and the looney-left. Heck, it's very prevalent on this board.
It's too prevalent here, but I think it's even more prevalent in other places. On social media (Facebook, Twitter, etc.), it's about 99 percent of political discussion. That's why I seldom discuss politics on Facebook. I basically talk politics with one friend on Facebook. He's a liberal, gay, Jewish guy from Boston. He's hard Left, but unlike almost everybody else I know on Facebook, he actually respects opposing viewpoints.
Seattle Husker
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Like you, I try to keep my facebook politics free. I've "muted" anyone that was overly political on both sides of the aisle. The last election was unbearable. Between the Hillary lovers, Bernie supporters and the far right conservative conspiracy theorists, I nearly quit facebook altogether. Surprisingly, I've even seen politics creep into LinkedIn which was shocking. Nope, I'll let the conservatives here enjoy my musings.
If I didn't live overseas and didn't have a 3 year old son whose grandparents want regular updates and photos, I'd quit Facebook. I have friends who have gone off the grid with social media. None regret it.
Seattle Husker
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I do it for the kids sports too. I have 2 boys left in HS. To stay in touch with my eldest who just went away to college I've been forced to adopt Snapchat. My wife says "if you want to stay involved with them you need to go where they are." My kids long ago left Facebook. Now I'm simply a mid-40's guy that hates Snapchat!
Joe Fan
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It's hard to tell exactly what she was doing
It now looks like her IT guy might have been blackmailing her
If so, who knows?
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Who didn't foresee problems with putting an intact male rapist in with actual females...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4856268/Transgender-rapist-moved-women-jail-segregated.html
He's lucky one of the females didn't just beat the hell out of him...vulnerable populations should NEVER be the place for social science experiments that are destined from the beginning to fail.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4856268/Transgender-rapist-moved-women-jail-segregated.html
He's lucky one of the females didn't just beat the hell out of him...vulnerable populations should NEVER be the place for social science experiments that are destined from the beginning to fail.
It's like putting an alcoholic in a room with a case of whisky and being surprised that he drank some of it.
Ha ha ... like establishing the straw man of one as a "survivor" with characterizations/presumptions of bunkers and fallout gear, eh, SH?
It's ok. We all do the very thing we hate and fail to do the very thing we claim to love.
#309
good grief!!!
So the ol boy who's out there on the road earning a living is to get his 4A rights violated because another motorist hit him ... doing a combined 2.5-3 miles/minute closure ...
Another example of "manage by policy" ... don't think. Even if the driver was falling-down drunk, he didn't cause the collision. He couldn't even have avoided the collision unless he KNEW that opposite direction vehicle was going to pull that maneuver at that time.
NM the treatment of this nurse when the detective was presented with OTHER policy. Wow.
IDK if she should be able to retire to her own island from this, but the city of SLC has a significant liability upon them, as does that detective and the Lt.
hat Tip to the author for showing some integrity rather than that "blue line" protectionist action which happens too much in all walks of life.
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