Disaster in OHIO ... cue CSN&Y

mchammer said:
Or gets washed away and diluted like the government agencies are saying.
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Eventually. Microbes won't eat Chloride though like they do simply hydrocarbons.

But for a significant time there is going to be problems. Have you seen the videos from residents video recording creeks and ponds? Nothing is diluted right now.
 



This is 13 minutes, but worth it. I have two data points:
1. Toxicity data directly from streams. Not provided.
2. Toxicity data from boring samples. Not provided, will take months.

1. is what’s in the streams.
2. is what’s in the groundwater.

We need both, but the groundwater is what’s most important! I have worked on pump and treat systems that cover 50 - 100 acres, where 500 gallons of perchloroethylene was spilled. This was 10K to 15K gallons. Plus all chemicals released have NOT been divulged. Dioxins were released, we know that. They have an infinent half life. Details are being with held! Why?
 
20 years ago, I did a pump and treat right behind the Aston Martin dealership in Houston off of 610. Rolls Royce had a dealership next door. Multi million dollar homes nearby. The site was a 40 acre vacant field where no development could happen.
 
Monahorns said:
Eventually. Microbes won't eat Chloride though like they do simply hydrocarbons.

But for a significant time there is going to be problems. Have you seen the videos from residents video recording creeks and ponds? Nothing is diluted right now.
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It could be oil created by bacteria and algae. Anything is possible until water analysis is done.
 
My point above is that MSM is not telling us everything when it comes to the East Palestine train derailment, or a lot of things. MSM can’t be trusted. Too often we just trust media. Too many reasons not to, at this point.
 
AC said:
My point above is that MSM is not telling us everything when it comes to the East Palestine train derailment, or a lot of things. MSM can’t be trusted. Too often we just trust media. Too many reasons not to, at this point.
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Well, the week for the media to report on it has come and past. Good luck getting any coverage now.
 
So, our fellow citizens in OH have a MAJOR catastrophic toxic event. Feds responded very slowly. Joe has directly said NOTHING public actionable I have heard, so far.

Meantime his sorry-*** flys off to Ukraine where his fellow citizens, sorry allies, to speak to Ukraine. WE are in a proxy war people!
 
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It’s affecting Ohio and Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania elected Fetterman. While I know it’s really Philadelphia that elected him, it’s time for these idiots to get what they voted for. The democrats don’t give a **** about people - only manipulating idiots to stay in office.
 
It was very fortuitous that the city of East Palestine in Jan had just rolled out a program to give residents MyID devices .Biometrec devices that allow first responders access to all medical info. Devices will be delivered soon Thank goodness it was not needed.
 
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Vinyl chloride is hazardous. The EPA has been stoking fear about Poly vinyl chloride for 20 years. That is the big lie. PVC is not a problem at all. If burnt there is potential for HCl, which is very bad. However, I never saw data showing how much of a health issue. I work in a lab that burns PVC at least weekly with no adverse health risks. PVC chars naturally it is inherently flame retardant. That means the potential issues of burning aren't straightforward. There are different reactions going on at once which mitigates the problems to minimal. But dumping/burning vinyl chloride monomer is a horrendous health and safety risk.

Not how the EPA, Green Peace, and the Democrat Party don't care one iota, one scintilla, about the environment. There concern was never for nature. It was merely a lever to wield power over others. My feeling is now being shown to be fact.
 
Ukraine/Poland seems like an excellent choice for where the American Pres should be on President’s Day. Makes perfect sense to me, oh and guarantee more billions of tax payer $$. Jeez.
 
Horn6721 said:
A CNN reporter pointed out there had been no sirens for days until Biden was there. And there was no apparent reason for the sirens.
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The sirens were to alert the mostly Republican population of the area that Brandon was in town, so they needed to keep a close eye on their prepubescent daughters.
 
WorsterMan said:
So, our fellow citizens in OH have a MAJOR catastrophic toxic event. Feds responded very slowly. Joe has directly said NOTHING public actionable I have heard, so far.

Meantime his sorry-*** flys off to Ukraine where his fellow citizens, sorry allies, to speak to Ukraine. WE are in a proxy war people!
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Proxy War with Ukraine, and an Information War here at home.
 
Monahorns said:
Vinyl chloride is hazardous. The EPA has been stoking fear about Poly vinyl chloride for 20 years. That is the big lie. PVC is not a problem at all. If burnt there is potential for HCl, which is very bad. However, I never saw data showing how much of a health issue. I work in a lab that burns PVC at least weekly with no adverse health risks. PVC chars naturally it is inherently flame retardant. That means the potential issues of burning aren't straightforward. There are different reactions going on at once which mitigates the problems to minimal. But dumping/burning vinyl chloride monomer is a horrendous health and safety risk.

Not how the EPA, Green Peace, and the Democrat Party don't care one iota, one scintilla, about the environment. There concern was never for nature. It was merely a lever to wield power over others. My feeling is now being shown to be fact.
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I've melted miles of PVC Pipe over the decades. No big deal. Vinyl Chloride Monomer, a whole other level. It is highly toxic. Which is why I am pissed at the media for downplaying it's release in East Palestine!
 
On Steve Bannon’s Warroom podcast they just announced Gov Shapiro did a criminal referral to DA Yost against Norfolk Southern. Yes they want to sweep this under the rug, but they can’t. This will go on for a long time in courts, and a phase 1, and phase 3 analysis should be required. That’s when good boring samples will be tested and results given. A Thousand test results eventually.
 
mchammer said:
So far, the EPA and Norfolk Southern have tested air quality in 533 homes and sampled the municipal water supply and deemed them safe. Testing results for homes that rely on private well water has not come back yet, though 52 have been sampled so far.

'We're afraid to shower': Fear and anxiety linger in Ohio town reeling from toxic train derailment — NBC News
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Contamination into wells probably won't happen for some time. It takes a while for surface water to seep into the water table.
 
Facing Addiction said:
Contamination into wells probably won't happen for some time. It takes a while for surface water to seep into the water table.
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These are not forever chemicals - they breakdown. They also washed downstream. Finally, whatever is left will be diluted below harmful levels.
 
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McHammer,
I keep telling you not to pay attention to MSM, they’re lying. Norfolk Southern is owned by Blackrock. The most evil globalist corporation in the US.
Phase 1 & 3 testing has to be mandated by the EPA! Blackrock has to be forced to do boring sample tests. That will take many months. So ignore MSM, none of that is true!
 
EPA has tested air and tap water in these homes. That’s it. This testing will go into 2024! Including groundwater testing which is phase 1 and phase 3. I see they’re doing soil reclamation at the rail site. This will take a long time. Lawsuits will begin eventually, those take 2 years +!
 
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