Death toll in Texas elementary school; 18 children, 2 adults killed

Applicable and appropriate in decent sized urban areas. But consider this: had such a school choice program been in place, do you think there is any real choice in small isolated places like Uvalde?

Abolish government schools and even smaller towns will have some competition. Plus, there is always homeschool and homeschool coops.
 
Probably not yet because there is not enough demand. But if more folks had the ability to pay for a private school then who knows what would happen.

Even if it doesn't solve every school shooting, is it a step in the right direction for at least the larger urban areas? I would think so.

Reducing tax burdens in general helps poor, working, and middle class families have the ability to get out from under bad performing institutions. Police for example. ;)
 
I agree. Most of his ideas are pretty common sense
I am torn on Red Flag laws
I am sure the anti gun whiners didn't like his continued points about responsible gun owners
 
Perhaps, but gun control is also pretty much lip service, because our enforcement of gun laws is pretty weak and arbitrary.

Very good point. I have read several places about the straw buying problem. Many criminals get their guns through straw purchases. Felon gives friend money to buy a gun. Friend legally purchases gun and gives to felon. Enforcing these laws could potentially have a big effect due to the number of violations.

However, these crimes are too hard to prosecute. Oh well. Better just ban AR-15s because Wooderson says so.
 
My post wasn't as eloquently stated, but yesterday UT's own Matthew McConaughey (Uvalde raised) stood in the briefing room of the White House and gave what I felt was a great statement/speech about his ideas.

This guy is a great fraud. He basically says he is from where ever. He was born in Northern Louisiana. He went to high school and graduated from Longview, TX. He might have spent some time in Uvalde, but I would have to see more information before I believe he "was raised in Uvalde".

Plus, I don't care what he has to say about anything. He can't even do hook'em horns correctly.
 
Monahorns,

Did you read his speech? If not, he never said to take away AR-15s.
To refresh your memory, here is what he said about them:

"We need background checks. We need to raise the minimum age to purchase an AR-15 rifle to 21. We need a waiting period for those rifles. We need red-flag laws and consequences for those who abuse them.

These are reasonable, practical, tactical regulations to our nation, states, communities, schools, and homes.

Responsible gun owners are fed up with the Second Amendment being abused and hijacked by some deranged individuals."
See, he talks about all the responsible gun owners, not one solution: take guns away.
Raising the age to buy and AR-15 is totally different than a ban. Not even in the same ballpark. Of course it won't stop people under that age from getting their hands on one, but at least we can say we tried, and I think that is what the majority of the country wants.

It is common knowledge that Matthew went to school in Uvalde and was born there. I think you are confusing him with his father, who was born in Mississippi and raised in Louisiana. MM did go to high school in Longview, but his family still lives in Uvalde. (try Google for more info on the early life of Matthew M)

I don't know what your issue is with him, or his ideas, but at least get the facts right.
He's been married to the same woman since 2011 and has 3 seemingly well adjusted kids. He is outspoken about his faith. He created a foundation for children that helps them lead healthy, active lives.
He sounds like a monster!
I'm not some fan girl of his. I think someone needs to step up that isn't a politician and make some sensible solutions. They may not all work, but if he is able to bridge the gap between them and us, more power to him. At least he is trying to appease both sides, and maybe a few ideas will stick.
I'll mark you down as a "no" :hookem: to the many variable theory.
 
People are losing any type of moral compass or compassion
IMO, this is at the heart of the matter and it permeates every facet of American life. Social media and the media industry in general have given birth to the norm of demonizing and attempting to destroy any and all with whom you disagree. Hatred, demonization and destruction. This is the mantra of modern American culture.
 
IMO, this is at the heart of the matter and it permeates every facet of American life. Social media and the media industry in general have given birth to the norm of demonizing and attempting to destroy any and all with whom you disagree. Hatred, demonization and destruction. This is the mantra of modern American culture.

If I can include entertainment under media industry, this is a part of the issue, but one that pisses off a lot of people. It's why McConaughey didn't add in "let's make films with less guns" or "let's go to church instead of Facebook on Sunday." More mental health and less guns will help but certainly not remove school shootings.
 
If I can include entertainment under media industry, this is a part of the issue, but one that pisses off a lot of people. It's why McConaughey didn't add in "let's make films with less guns" or "let's go to church instead of Facebook on Sunday." More mental health and less guns will help but certainly not remove school shootings.
I agree re: entertainment, specifically violent shooter video games. My unscientific opinion is that they're so ubiquitous and realistic that they've (to a degree) desensitized a couple generations of people to the act of shooting and killing other humans.
 
The whole thing makes me sick. One of the boys looks like my daughters boyfriend.
You're going to be surprised at who actually killed that sh*tbag criminal. I will say that the 18 year old fought his *** off to save his brothers, but succumbed to "dozens" of stab wounds.
 
Probably not yet because there is not enough demand. But if more folks had the ability to pay for a private school then who knows what would happen.

Even if it doesn't solve every school shooting, is it a step in the right direction for at least the larger urban areas? I would think so.

In Lufkin for example, you can send your kids to a better ISD in nearby Hudson for just 1k per year. Apparently a lot of parents in Lufkin opt for that. In addition, there's a pretty decent charter school in town (pineywoods academy) that's highlyrecommended. One private school (st Cyprian) is best described by a doctor we spoke to. "It's a good school for above average students. But that's the ceiling. "

So, in a town of 35k (Lufkin) there are some good options if Lufkin ISD doesn't appeal.

If you have kids, a quality education should be the #1 priority whether it be public or private. No expense should be spared

When we crossed Tyler*, longview, Marshall, henderson off our list because of the schools available in those areas for our grand daughter, we liked what we saw in the charter school in lufkin. And if that didn't cut it (our grand daughter's test scores are exceptional), good options were available.

*tyler.. no thanks. Traffic on the south side reminds me of Allen, Frisco, McKinney.
 
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Very good point. I have read several places about the straw buying problem. Many criminals get their guns through straw purchases. Felon gives friend money to buy a gun. Friend legally purchases gun and gives to felon. Enforcing these laws could potentially have a big effect due to the number of violations.

However, these crimes are too hard to prosecute. Oh well. Better just ban AR-15s because Wooderson says so.

It's a pain in the rear to enforce the gun laws, and it would run up against the progressive, woke criminal justice agenda because of what groups it disproportionately impacts. The media presents the image of some old white guy being the gun criminal, but the reality is that the gun criminals are basically the same people as the other kinds of criminals. That means that enforcing the gun laws is going to lead to an even more disproportionate share of black and Hispanic men going to slammer. Are woke prosecutors going to push that and let themselves get slapped around on the issue if they run for higher office like Willie Brown's ex-mistress was? No.
 
So I watched Matthew McConaughey's speech, and I'll be honest. I think it's a smart move by the Administration to let him do that. He's a better communicator than pretty much any Democratic politician, political operative, or media figure. Yes, he does speak better than most of them, especially Joe Biden, who's almost incoherent at this point.

However, the big factor is that McConaughey can shake the obvious bad faith and insincerity in a way that Democratic political hacks cannot. They've been crapping on the Second Amendment and ridiculing its adherents for 40 years, so nobody believes them when they say they're interested only in "common sense" restrictions. Furthermore, because of that bad faith and general assholicness, nobody is interested in giving them any sort of victory or concession, even if in a vacuum they might be ok stronger background checks or raising the minimum age to buy an assault weapon. McConaughey isn't dirtied by all that, so people will listen to him in a way they won't listen to Democratic political hacks.

Of course, the problem is that once McConaughey walked away from that podium, the issue went back to the domain of insincere hacks like liberal politicians and smug, douchie media figures that nobody outside DC and big cities likes or believes.
 
I agree re: entertainment, specifically violent shooter video games. My unscientific opinion is that they're so ubiquitous and realistic that they've (to a degree) desensitized a couple generations of people to the act of shooting and killing other humans.

It might be mostly them, but films, TV, and music have gotten more violent and profane over the decades too. That must desensitize people too.
 
re: the McConaughey speech

I am curious how much was really HIS words versus what was scripted for him given the way he kept looking down as if reading the precursor to a teleprompter. If they were truly all his words, those looks should NOT have been so frequent.
 
So I watched Matthew McConaughey's speech, and I'll be honest. I think it's a smart move by the Administration to let him do that.

Well. Yeah. It was a great move by the Biden administration. No doubt.

The question is what did they do to get him to make it?
 
Actually I think they were all his words. Many of the points he has made before
And I don't think Biden etc would have written favorably on the second amendment
Or included "responsible gun owners "so many times.
 
Matthew McConaughey is, and has long been, a great Longhorn. People should cut him a whole lot of slack.
 
Matthew McConaughey is, and has long been, a great Longhorn. People should cut him a whole lot of slack.

I will cut him slack until he calls for a violation of Americans' natural rights. At that point he can go play naked bongos into the sunset.
 
Matthew McConaughey is, and has long been, a great Longhorn. People should cut him a whole lot of slack.
There is no room for slack when carrying the water for the Ron Klain/Barack Obummer regime....and to be on a podium at the White House unfortunately says MM was carrying their water.

Slack would have been if he was at a podium in Uvalde.
 
re: the McConaughey speech

I am curious how much was really HIS words versus what was scripted for him given the way he kept looking down as if reading the precursor to a teleprompter. If they were truly all his words, those looks should NOT have been so frequent.
I don't know about that. When I've needed to give a speech, i have it written down ahead of time. The writing of a speech can still be "my own" even though i use a prompter to help remember what i wanted to say.

I think it was largely MM's own thoughts. It was probably well vetted by the Dem's ahead of time to ensure that it wasn't counter to their desires but it wasn't a "shame on the GOP" or "get rid of all semi-autos" kind of speech.

I think MM gave up on the gov bit because he wanted to be the "reasonable moderate" and politics doesn't really allow for that these days. He can be the "reasonable moderate" from the outside as a well-known personality in a way that he can't as an actual politician.
 
BOSD
That is exactly why I think they were his own words. Does anyone think Biden etc would have written this?
Responsible gun owners are fed up with the Second Amendment being abused and hijacked by some deranged individuals."?
To Biden etc and people like Beto there are no responsible gun owners.
 
Responsible gun owners are fed up with the Second Amendment being abused and hijacked by some deranged individuals."?

Here is the thing. Why even bring the 2nd Amendment into this? The issue isn't gun rights. The issue is murder and protecting children. The problem isn't that the murderer "hijacked the 2nd Amendment". The problem is that he murdered people.

I swear people are so brainwashed by Marxist Progressive Democrats that even when they think they oppose them they still accept the assumptions and framing an issue of a Marxist Progressive Democrat.

Want to know why Republicans lose on just about every issue? This is it.
 
Uh Pubs aren't bringing up the Second Amendment.
Every Dem politician, every Dem talking head every whacked out Hollywood / celebrity type And of course SloJo and the Ho are blaring it .
 
Uh Pubs aren't bringing up the Second Amendment.
Every Dem politician, every Dem talking head every whacked out Hollywood / celebrity type And of course SloJo and the Ho are blaring it .

Anyone who is now going along with McConaughey are taking the bait. That includes some Rs. No doubt.
 
So, someone who plays make believe for a living and, therefore, gets special treatment by UT after not having earned it, deserves slack? Uh, okay...

:confused2:
 
Mona
One doesn't have to "go along "with everything he said to be able to agree with some of what he said.
Is there nothing he said you agree with?
 
absolutely. and any superintendent that hasn't begun this process in the last decade needs to be replaced. this is not rocket science. we have numerous examples of how to restrict access to spaces/buildings without them feeling like jails. It will cost some money, but that is much better spent on this, versus new athletic facilities. And this is something i would even suggest that Texas could/should tap into the rainy day fund to provide SOME assistance to schools with. something like a 80/20 cost share for poorer districts. Layered defense is a pretty simple and often, pretty cheap approach. it makes the intruder take 5 min. instead of 5 seconds to get in, and that is usually enough for the good guys to prevent an incident.
 

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