Coronavirus
- Thread starter Clean
- Start date
No one is suggesting this. Better reply is if you had Covid, no immediate need to be vaxxed, but it does offer slightly more protection than not. For the unvaxxed who hasn’t had Covid, vaccines for 40+ is strongly recommended. For folks with health issues, even stronger recommendation. And, here is the hospitalization rate by age and weight. Find your spot on the graph and see how much risk you are willing to take.
Here is the problem with mandates: no one in government feels it is necessary to persuade. There is no persuading if all you have is a mandate. Thus, no persuasion or studies to support persuasion was done.
Thanks for the kind words.
She just doesn't believe in it. She also has never had a mammogram. I don't know how to explain her except that she calls herself a rebel. She if forceful Trump supporter but I told her Trump was vaxxed. Didn't matter. She is anti-mandates and is living that political philosophy for herself.
She is very healthy overall and looks great for her age. My college buddies long ago thought she was my sister. We have good vanity genes! Ha... meaning I'm good looking too man. Yeah, Senor Vanity (that's what my roommate called me; he noted I liked the mirror and my blow dryer).
She was going to get exposed at some point anyway unless you locked her in her room. Since you failed to do that, you are partially responsible for her death if it had occurred.
At her age your mom could die from a bad cold or the seasonal flu. Would you whip your brother's *** if he had given her the cold or flu that did her in?
I suggest handle him exactly how you would have handled him in the above hypothetical.
You forgot the chart.
Do you think they "knew" that the body would develop natural immunity after recovery back in 2020?
I get your meaning but my feeling is he was reckless because he has a burr up his *** about COVID. I actually believe he would have been more careful in pre-Covid years because the mandate argument wouldn't be in play.
There was no vaccine then, so what’s your point? They knew by January 2021
I understand that very well.
You are speaking to my point that your brother would have been more careful in absence of mandates and with much more information supplied by the government concerning risk with age, etc. Since government only cared about mandates, they never really tried to persuade your brother.
But they wanted people to wear masks, social distance, stay home and there was talk about getting vaccines out. So should they have said something about the immunity that would be "available" if they caught it and survived it?
OUBubba
5,000+ Posts
I'm sorry but unless I'm missing some sarcasm, this is a total assholish response.
Same, that is not credible at all.
CDC was purposely vague on natural immunity because they thought people would be more reckless. In absence of a vaccine, the best path forward is actually herd immunity up to the point it overwhelms hospitals. I am supportive of modest methods to suppress viral transmission to prevent hospitals being overloaded (in the hope that a vaccine will be developed), but in absence of that, there is no basis to impose restrictions.
Hawaii completely shut down their tourist industry for a year (required 14 day quarantine). They should have had charter flights with folks who had natural immunity. A positive test result should have sufficed to get on the plane.
To what end? Zero Covid or prevent overrunning hospitals? These are not the same. The CDC pursued policies of the former, not the latter.
Separate note: is he above civil lawsuit?
Folks who had Covid shouldn’t have to wear masks on airplanes. The mandates are just ******* stupid. Even your brother can sense that.
On the other end, the paranoid have no basis to make a rational judgement. They should be ignored completely but government is making decisions based on the crazies.
Last edited:
1/ Labs leak viruses all the time. Fauci knew this research was being done in a lower level safety lab. Criminal.
2/Fauci knew US money was being used to manipulate viruses and it was being done “technically” to avoid a law. Criminal.
Well, given Depends, QueMala, Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, etc, we elected crazies, so perhaps the unelected bureaucrats making decisions based on the crazies is somewhat understandable.
OUBubba
5,000+ Posts
Odd behavior. I mean I expect that treatment. I'm a sooner liberal. It makes me stronger.
I'd think you would receive better treatment.
Odd behavior. I mean I expect that treatment. I'm a sooner liberal. It makes me stronger.
I'd think you would receive better treatment.
Hopefully we all deserve some level of respect. I lose my cool on occasion. I know it. Y'all know it. These things get very personal.
Covid/shots/immunocompromised is the life I'm living. It's no joke. I have to be careful. I don't ask people to live like me. I just don't like the defiant denial of these things. It's real.
Below is how I feel about things like this and other forms of human behavior that bother me.
In defense of standards:
Pole dancing at halftime of the Super Bowl introduced as the greatest half-time show ever by a woman who is all about the color of her skin... allowing cheaters to compete in the Olympics... liars in politics... elites who expect favor from their subjects... leaders who attack assassins who kill journalists while attacking journalists who are investigating corruption in their family, all in the same news conference... ruthless parties attempting to overturn elections or use government resources to attack members of their own party because they aren't toeing the line... the egomania of every race and culture in a battle for supremacy and wealth... warmongers who preach Jesus... people who want freedom of action but socialism to remedy consequence... people who want to privatize profits and socialize losses without consequence ("too big to fail")...
It's not my world. I'm glad I don't need it to shock for attention, feed an inferiority complex or pretend I'm something I'm not.
I'm blocking it all.
So India wanted Pfizer to do a safety local and immunogenicity study which it requires for all meds before approving, even EAU . This started last year.
Pfizer refused and has now announced it is withdrawing its'application for EAU approval.
India is also concerned about vaccine injuries being investigated in other countries.
Wow that is a huge market to walk away from. Why doesn't Pfizer just do India 's required local safety study?
On a related note why did the FDA say it would take 75 YEARS to release data on Pfizer vaccine? That has been shot down but that it was even asked for is troubling.
Pfizer refused and has now announced it is withdrawing its'application for EAU approval.
India is also concerned about vaccine injuries being investigated in other countries.
Wow that is a huge market to walk away from. Why doesn't Pfizer just do India 's required local safety study?
On a related note why did the FDA say it would take 75 YEARS to release data on Pfizer vaccine? That has been shot down but that it was even asked for is troubling.
Last edited:
Yes. It’s science.
Very sorry your mom caught it By. Happy to hear she’s doing well. I think I’d probably be equally upset with my mom as my brother were she to not have gotten the vaccine and he not taking any precautions around her.
Just as the kids have lost so much with the school fiasco we as a nation have lost equally for the despair of the last two years.
I can already picture the Harvard Business Review article "How Not To Manage the Public During a Pandemic: The CDC And COVID-19."
Weekly Prediction Contest
* Predict HORNS-AGGIES *
Sat, Nov 30 • 6:30 PM on ABC
Recent Threads
-
Black Lives Matter; The Cerebral Warlords of Our Time
- Started by iatrogenic
- Replies: 1K
- West Mall
-
New Jaguar TV Commercial!?
- Started by WorsterMan
- Replies: 3
- West Mall
-
The Media Industry
- Started by texas_ex2000
- Replies: 8K
- West Mall
Prediction Results Threads
