Coronavirus

We live in a small little ski town in Colorado. The resort just shut down. The County issued a public health order. No gatherings of more than 50 people. If under 50, no one over 60 is permitted to attend and social distances shall be strictly enforced. No closer than 6 feet for more than 10 minutes. People are not to be seated either side by side or directly across from each other. This includes such businesses as churches, restaurants, etc. Everybody. All businesses are being encouraged to close. If an employee is presumed positive, or was in close contact with someone presumed positive, the health department is making them shut down for a least 2 weeks.

Most of the businesses here are mom and pop shops and can't afford to be shut down on what is one of the busiest weeks of the year. The employees are mostly hourly wage earners and live month to month. I'll be surprised if the town survives if this goes on for any significant period of time. Or it will take years to recover.

One of our friends up here is a self-employed nail tech. The spa she works out of was one of the first to close as business died. She has no income. She's broken her lease because she won't be able to afford rent next month. She's moving in with us until she can figure out what's next.

Hysteria is hurting a lot of good people.
 
Details will come out on how the gov't will help people like your friend. It must be very unsettling for so many.
If this social distancing works like it seems like it might then this hysteria will die and life will go on.
 
OUBubba said:
I think for the last month the Trump administration has not wanted to have tests readily available so that our numbers would not scare the market. Now they realized they should have listened to the CDC and the WHO and not Larry Kudlow and we are in a pickle.
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Too bad internet message boards didn't exist during much of John Blake's tenure as your HC. I'd have loved to have seen the end of the world posts of yours at that time
 
Statalyzer said:
Ok, so we're heard all along how South Korea is the poster child for testing. They've done a quarter of a million people or so. This means they found a lot of the positives we've missed, the ones who otherwise would have just felt kind of sick for a few days but nothing distinguishable from a common cold if they hadn't had the test to confirm.

And there's an argument going on here where some are pointing out that our methods of counting mortality rate are misleading, because deaths to due to C19 are much more likely to be identified than healthy recoveries are. South Korea's expansive testing is confirming this notion, as their latest numbers make the mortality rate to be around 0.75%. And even that is still probably slightly high, but it's almost certain much closer to the truth. It's still nothing to sneeze at (no pun intended) but it does bolster the point that the 3-5% reports are, as suspected, very skewed.

On a side note, I wonder how many people have stocked up and are now isolating themselves from the virus for health reasons, sitting around their house smoking cigarettes...



All sorts of ******** may have gotten into it, since for some reason as a nation overall we are more harsh to the people saying "Wait, what's in this bill? Please can you guys not use the disease as a twisted form of exploitation to get our pet projects pushed through" than we are to the people actually using the disease as a twisted form of exploitation to get their pet projects pushed through
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That pelosi put any abortion language is false from everything I’ve found.
 
Horn2RunAgain said:
Too bad internet message boards didn't exist during much of John Blake's tenure as your HC. I'd have loved to have seen the end of the world posts of yours at that time
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I remember selling “Blake’s bringing back the bone!” I think some message boards did exist. I know they did when stoops came in.
 
Facing Addiction said:
We live in a small little ski town in Colorado. The resort just shut down. The County issued a public health order. No gatherings of more than 50 people. If under 50, no one over 60 is permitted to attend and social distances shall be strictly enforced. No closer than 6 feet for more than 10 minutes. People are not to be seated either side by side or directly across from each other. This includes such businesses as churches, restaurants, etc. Everybody. All businesses are being encouraged to close. If an employee is presumed positive, or was in close contact with someone presumed positive, the health department is making them shut down for a least 2 weeks.

Most of the businesses here are mom and pop shops and can't afford to be shut down on what is one of the busiest weeks of the year. The employees are mostly hourly wage earners and live month to month. I'll be surprised if the town survives if this goes on for any significant period of time. Or it will take years to recover.

One of our friends up here is a self-employed nail tech. The spa she works out of was one of the first to close as business died. She has no income. She's broken her lease because she won't be able to afford rent next month. She's moving in with us until she can figure out what's next.

Hysteria is hurting a lot of good people.
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These are the reasons I'm most pissed about this whole situation. The media has created mass hysteria and people like this are suffering because we are afraid of basically nothing.

I get the precautions for those over 60 or with compromised immune systems, for them yes, it's scary, but for everyone else, this is nothing and should be treated as such. There is no reason for schools to shut down. There is no reason to cancel the NBA or NHL. When it is all said and done, and nothing came of it, people are going to be pissed at the media and next time they won't take it serious when the threat will be real.
 
OU are you playing with words that Pelosi put in vs attempted to put in, or are you saying the whole idea is false? Serious question because I saw interviews of congressmen that stayed it (that she had) specifically. I’d really like to verify that they outright lied if true.
 
Cases are picking up in Malaysia, Thailand, India, Indonesia and Philippines. They are at the critical 100-400 case level. We will see if they have a slower growth rate due to warmer weather in the next 14 days. Similar story for Mexico and Vietnam (approx 50 cases).
 
You wonder if the virus hollows itself out. In other words, it kills those that are vulnerable and then immunizes the rest, creating a barrier from spreading more. Sort of like an abscess.
 
nashhorn said:
OU are you playing with words that Pelosi put in vs attempted to put in, or are you saying the whole idea is false? Serious question because I saw interviews of congressmen that stayed it (that she had) specifically. I’d really like to verify that they outright lied if true.
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You think it would be easier to find. I can’t find it. Everything I find links back to the daily caller which makes mother jones look like the AP.
 
I know the cure for this disease. Get off our fat asses and do some exercise, strengthen our immune system and our lungs. Then when we get it, we will be fine.
 
Austin_Bill said:
These are the reasons I'm most pissed about this whole situation. The media has created mass hysteria and people like this are suffering because we are afraid of basically nothing.

I get the precautions for those over 60 or with compromised immune systems, for them yes, it's scary, but for everyone else, this is nothing and should be treated as such. There is no reason for schools to shut down. There is no reason to cancel the NBA or NHL. When it is all said and done, and nothing came of it, people are going to be pissed at the media and next time they won't take it serious when the threat will be real.
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I agree that the media has created mass hysteria and for political reasons. However, we need to be watching the growth rate of infections these next 2-4 weeks to see if it slows down in warmer climates especially as we get close to May. My wife and I are self employed and she works with private school students. She won’t be working much for the foreseeable future. It’s all on me. If they start shutting down Refineries, Terminals, and Gas Plants I’m screwed! This social distancing needs to end soon for economic reasons. Not at the expense of lives though. Thus the importance of Coronavirus growth rates.
 
Mexico is considering closing the border to stem the flow of the virus from the USA.
Smart move.

In general IIUC pulling back from massive contact among all of us for a short time could ease the transmission enough to stave off huge numbers getting it here.
 
Horn6721 said:
Mexico is considering closing the border to stem the flow of the virus from the USA.
Smart move.

In general IIUC pulling back from massive contact among all of us for a short time could ease the transmission enough to stave off huge numbers getting it here.
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F Mexico. Should have been policing the border and helping prevent the influx over to this side way before now. What, they are afraid of Americans spreading the virus over there? Ha! The spread of illegal immigrants has been a virus in this country for way too damn long.
 
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These things are so nasty that they're good.
 
Austin_Bill said:
These are the reasons I'm most pissed about this whole situation. The media has created mass hysteria and people like this are suffering because we are afraid of basically nothing.

I get the precautions for those over 60 or with compromised immune systems, for them yes, it's scary, but for everyone else, this is nothing and should be treated as such. There is no reason for schools to shut down. There is no reason to cancel the NBA or NHL. When it is all said and done, and nothing came of it, people are going to be pissed at the media and next time they won't take it serious when the threat will be real.
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Slowing community spread today buys us time to “flatten the curve”.
AC said:
we need to be watching the growth rate of infections these next 2-4 weeks to see if it slows down in warmer climates especially as we get close to May. ... Thus the importance of Coronavirus growth rates.
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Yes.
 
mchammer said:
I wonder if the people demanding test kits ever wonder how prepared we would be if just 10% of the funds for global warming in the past 10 years alone were diverted to pandemic test kits and respirators.
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How about 1% of the military spending? How much would that buy?
 
tchill said:
How about 1% of the military spending? How much would that buy?
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I am referring to a bucket of money reserved for global disasters. For every dollar spent on global warming is one less dollar spent on pandemics, threats from asteroids, threats from solar impulses, etc. The global warming alarmists wants us to think there is only one global threat. Loser think.
 
Facing Addiction said:
We live in a small little ski town in Colorado. The resort just shut down. The County issued a public health order. No gatherings of more than 50 people. If under 50, no one over 60 is permitted to attend and social distances shall be strictly enforced. No closer than 6 feet for more than 10 minutes. People are not to be seated either side by side or directly across from each other. This includes such businesses as churches, restaurants, etc. Everybody. All businesses are being encouraged to close. If an employee is presumed positive, or was in close contact with someone presumed positive, the health department is making them shut down for a least 2 weeks.

Most of the businesses here are mom and pop shops and can't afford to be shut down on what is one of the busiest weeks of the year. The employees are mostly hourly wage earners and live month to month. I'll be surprised if the town survives if this goes on for any significant period of time. Or it will take years to recover.

One of our friends up here is a self-employed nail tech. The spa she works out of was one of the first to close as business died. She has no income. She's broken her lease because she won't be able to afford rent next month. She's moving in with us until she can figure out what's next.

Hysteria is hurting a lot of good people.
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Time to consider a brief ‘holiday’ on evictions, foreclosures, and repossessions. The creditor will still ultimately still get all his $ but with a forbearance period. (Sharp operators will even use it as an opportunity to tack on some extra fees...). That 15 year mortgage doesn’t get paid for the next 2 months and turns into a 15 year + 2 month mortgage, etc. Many lenders will probably end up doing this on their own. Resources to evict, foreclose, and repo will run dry—or the people who do that dirty work will simply refuse to go out and get exposed to the virus.

Throwing millions out into the streets with all this going on may result in a breakdown of society and law and order.
 
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mchammer said:
Cases are picking up in Malaysia, Thailand, India, Indonesia and Philippines. They are at the critical 100-400 case level. We will see if they have a slower growth rate due to warmer weather in the next 14 days. Similar story for Mexico and Vietnam (approx 50 cases).
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Yep. All warm weather climates except for the Himalayas and foothills in India.
 
AC said:
I agree that the media has created mass hysteria and for political reasons. However, we need to be watching the growth rate of infections these next 2-4 weeks to see if it slows down in warmer climates especially as we get close to May. My wife and I are self employed and she works with private school students. She won’t be working much for the foreseeable future. It’s all on me. If they start shutting down Refineries, Terminals, and Gas Plants I’m screwed! This social distancing needs to end soon for economic reasons. Not at the expense of lives though. Thus the importance of Coronavirus growth rates.
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I would expect the authorities will rank refineries just slightly behind medical facilities in order of importance to keep running. Without fuel, vehicular traffic shuts down and with it everything—medical, food, public safety, trucking, deliveries, etc.

If refineries/petrochemical goes down, the Tesla-driving anti oil morons may finally get their wish. And it’s not what they were hoping for.
 
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