Coronavirus

[Austin_Bill]

It is not less deadly than the flu. Flu is 0.1%. The lowest I’ve seen is ten times higher than that. China is at 2.3%. And it is more communicable. Flu has a RO of 1. This is 2-3.

So Lets out you.

So far, 16,000 people have died and 280,000 people have been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC. These are US numbers not world numbers.

Flu shot better than last year, despite tough season for kids

This is a year when the flu shots are much more effective than in past years. Tell me again how Corona is so much worse than the Flu.

You should take your BS elsewhere, I'm sure there are people on facebook that will believe you.

 

[Horns11]

This year, flu is between 0.04% to 0.15% mortality rate in the US, also according to the CDC.
Preliminary In-Season 2019-2020 Flu Burden Estimates
You're right that this is a weaker year for the flu in general, especially compared to last year's flumageddon.

I'm not sure how anyone could reasonably think that Covid-19 is less deadly or on par with the flu this year. It's deadlier by a rate of 10x. And that's on the conservative side. In Italy, it's 40x deadlier than the flu, and that's only including the people who haven't been tested for it yet.

And Italy's mortality rate from it is 7.17% as the tracker just got updated.

 

[theiioftx]

Once again, you fools are driven by the media and not common sense. On one hand, you buy the hysteria of people not getting tested to support the its Trump’s fault movement. Then you buy the hysteria of how deadly it is to support the Trump is going to kill us all movement. You can’t have it both ways.

Let’s think clearly for a moment. It’s an illness that affects some people more than others. The problem is that many people have it, but have minor to no symptoms and don’t get tested. Others are just treating it like the flu. Regardless, they are not counted in the math.

Sooooo, 1 person dies of 10 people tested. Those obviously had cold or flu like symptoms and were tested. 10% death rate.

But we know many more have it but did not get tested. In that scenario, 1 person died but 100,000 actually had it, but were not tested. 0001% death rate.

Go rest your head on your pile of stocked up toilet paper. The sun will come up tomorrow. Brian Williams should not be your guide.

Brian Williams Makes Mortifying Math Blunder On Bloomberg Campaign | HuffPost

 

[Mr. Deez]

Aren't there a lot of bidets over there, thus negating the need for tp?

I've had a bidet for 9 years. I still don't get it. It sure as hell is no substitute for toilet paper.

@mchammer - just FYI - a bidet would make for a pretty good taint washer. The angle is pretty good.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Speaking of toilet paper, saw this on Facebook.

 

[Run Pincher]

Trump's going to kill us all!

OMG! It's the End of the World!

 

[OUBubba]

So Lets out you.

So far, 16,000 people have died and 280,000 people have been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC. These are US numbers not world numbers.

Flu shot better than last year, despite tough season for kids

This is a year when the flu shots are much more effective than in past years. Tell me again how Corona is so much worse than the Flu.

You should take your BS elsewhere, I'm sure there are people on facebook that will believe you.

I don’t know how you outed me.

I think for the last month the Trump administration has not wanted to have tests readily available so that our numbers would not scare the market. Now they realized they should have listened to the CDC and the WHO and not Larry Kudlow and we are in a pickle.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

 

[Mr. Deez]

I spoke too soon. Mrs. Deez is in the mood for a fondue, so I returned to the German store to get some fancy-*** cheese. This is the toilet paper isle. What the hell is wrong with people?

I'm buying what's really important.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

Cremant d'Alsace! Very nice.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Cremant d'Alsace! Very nice.

It is nice, and for what it is, it is cheap as ****! That thing was €7.99. That's less than $9. You won't confuse it for $160 bottle of Dom Perignon. However, you can very easily spend $25 or $30 for something that is certainly no better.

 

[Joe Fan]

I wonder if the people demanding test kits ever wonder how prepared we would be if just 10% of the funds for global warming in the past 10 years alone were diverted to pandemic test kits and respirators.

Or, how might preparedness been affected by all the time and resources wasted on impeachment?

 

[Joe Fan]

 

[OUBubba]

All of the people that I deal with are not necessarily concerned for themselves. They're worried that they'll be involved in passing it to someone who's compromised. I'm on a credit union board and we're limiting additional support staff from coming to the meeting and making sure that the younger, healthier board members show up to make up the quorum. We have three of us in our late 40's and 50's and the rest are 70+ and one has had a kidney transplant and is on immuno suppressive meds.

 

[Joe Fan]

All of the people that I deal with are not necessarily concerned for themselves. They're worried that they'll be involved in passing it to someone who's compromised. ....

I admit that's better than I have been conditioned to expect from you. In normal times, that expectation would be that you would be gleefully pointing out a large part the Trump base is older.

 

[nashhorn]

Glad to see you are looking out for the 70+ folks (like me) particularly that immuno challenged individual. That sort of caution is appropriate and necessary but this other massive shutdown is lunacy. IMO, of course.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Glad to see you are looking out for the 70+ folks (like me) particularly that immuno challenged individual. That sort of caution is appropriate and necessary but this other massive shutdown is lunacy. IMO, of course.

That's what's stupid about this. Younger people are cramming the stores and hording toilet paper. What they should be doing is offering to buy groceries and other items for senior citizens and others whose immune systems are compromised. Remember, they kept us fed, clothed, housed, and our asses clean when we were too young to take care of that stuff on our own. Doing something far less burdensome for them now that they aren't able to should be a no-brainer.

But at some point, we stopped teaching young people to give a crap about the elderly.

 

[theiioftx]

Amen. Although you can see lots of stupidity on the Nextdoor app, there are several people in my neighborhood offering to run errands, go to the grocery store or just assist in any way.

I have learned I don’t need a lot of things I have in my life. I don’t need professional sports, television news and many other things.

 

[OUBubba]

I admit that's better than I have been conditioned to expect from you. In normal times, that expectation would be that you would be gleefully pointing out a large part the Trump base is older.

I mean, there's a small, juvenile part of me that is similar to watching the Longhorns get screwed in a Holiday Bowl when I watch a Trump presser. But, I'm only like 1/64th monster. I know that most of those 70ish board members are Trump folks. I mean I'm a Dem in a red state. I'm used to that stuff.

 

[Joe Fan]

I mean, there's a small, juvenile part of me that is similar to watching the Longhorns get screwed in a Holiday Bowl when I watch a Trump presser. But, I'm only like 1/64th monster. I know that most of those 70ish board members are Trump folks. I mean I'm a Dem in a red state. I'm used to that stuff.

Barry Switzer is pretty old too

 

[Mr. Deez]

 

[Mr. Deez]

Another good one.

 

[Joe Fan]

Sharyl Attkisson put together some details on the 48 US deaths.
Older or Unhealthy: The first 48 U.S. coronavirus deaths in detail

Thirty-seven deaths (77% of total) are in Washington state --
Two women in their 90s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A woman in her 80s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A man in his 70s at Overlake Medical Center died on March 4.
A man in his 80s at Swedish Issaquah hospital, died on March 9.
Woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died on March 11.
Four Washington state deaths are from Snohomish County
A woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died March 11.
Woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions died March 10.
Man in his 80s with underlying health conditions, died March 9 at the Josephine Caring Community
A man in his 40s with underlying health conditions died but the date has not been specified.
One Washington State death is from Grant County, a patient in his or her 80s.

Four deaths are in California:
A woman, 90s, in assisted living.
A woman, 60s, hospitalized in Santa Clara.
An elderly man in assisted living.
A man, 71, with underlying health conditions who had been on a Grand Princess cruise ship.

Two deaths are in Florida:
A man and woman, both in their 70s, died after returning from foreign travel.

One death is in New Jersey:
A man, 69, who is diabetic and suffered two cardiac arrests, has died.

One death is in South Dakota:
A man in his 60s with underlying medical conditions has died.

One death is in Georgia:
A man, 67, with underlying medical conditions has died.

One death is in Kansas:
A man in his 70s with underlying health conditions died at the Life Care Center in Kansas City.

One death in is Colorado:
A woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions has died.
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[Joe Fan]

Nancy tried to cram abortion funding into the coronavirus bill

 

[Crockett]

I know theiisoftx and Austin Bill aren't worried, but based on what has happened in China, Italy, South Korea and Iran, a lot of precautions are appropriate. We are about 2 weeks behind Italy and while we have a more robust medical system, spread of the illness here like it spread there would require 200,000 ICU beds and we have 100,000, most already occupied. It's going to get worse before it gets better and the extreme steps we are taking to the growth curb will save a lot of lives. These precautions, taken at the urging of no less than Donald Trump whom I assume Theiisoftx lumps in with the rest of us fools" paying attention to the CDC, interntional epidemiologists, public officials and journalists like those of the Washington Post and Wall Street Journal instead of reassuring voices like his, Austin Bill's and Trish Reagan's.

 

[Joe Fan]

I mean, there's a small, juvenile part of me that is similar to watching the Longhorns get screwed in a Holiday Bowl when I watch a Trump presser. But, I'm only like 1/64th monster. I know that most of those 70ish board members are Trump folks. I mean I'm a Dem in a red state. I'm used to that stuff.

He said his temp was normal
I doubt the financial mkts would react well to a positive test
Have a good weekend

 

[Austin_Bill]

This year, flu is between 0.04% to 0.15% mortality rate in the US, also according to the CDC.
Preliminary In-Season 2019-2020 Flu Burden Estimates
You're right that this is a weaker year for the flu in general, especially compared to last year's flumageddon.

I'm not sure how anyone could reasonably think that Covid-19 is less deadly or on par with the flu this year. It's deadlier by a rate of 10x. And that's on the conservative side. In Italy, it's 40x deadlier than the flu, and that's only including the people who haven't been tested for it yet.

And Italy's mortality rate from it is 7.17% as the tracker just got updated.

Lets say Corona virus affects 100 million people, lets say it affects every age group by percentages of our population
Coronavirus Age, Sex, Demographics (COVID-19) - Worldometer

We know that of that of those 1 million 13.1% would be over the age of 80, that means 131,000 of that 14.8% will die. so we could expect a mortality rate of 19,388 will die. Now that is a scary number, but keep in mind, so far only 150,000 people worldwide have got the disease so far. So a more realistic number would be much lower but for ease of math we will go with 1 million. Then we are looking at a mortality rate of 19,388 people dying. Also take into account we have superior air quality, sanitary conditions, and healthcare and I'm pretty sure the mortality rate here will drop as well.

Don't even get me started on the mortality rate for those under the age of 50. it's ridiculously low. Roughly two thirds of our population is under 50 so if we are looking at 1 million national cases we know that 660,000 would be under the age of 50 and the death rate for that group would be 132 people. Probably less because so far no one under the age of 10 has died from the virus.

To put this in perspective, in the US, 90 people die each day from a car crash.

This is why I keep calling you people snow flakes.

 

[Crockett]

Hey, Rudy Gobert thought it was no big deal either. Rudy Gobert Purposefully Touched Reporters' Microphones 2 Days Before Testing Positive for Coronavirus

 

[Austin_Bill]

paying attention to the CDC, interntional epidemiologists, public officials and journalists like those of the Washington Post and Wall Street Journal instead of reassuring voices like his, Austin Bill's and Trish Reagan's.

You owe me a new keyboard, I just blew milk out of my nose all over my keyboard when I read Washington Post and Wall Street Journal.

Anyone paying attention to these fools deserves what they get.

 

[mchammer]

Lets say Corona virus affects 100 million people, lets say it affects every age group by percentages of our population
Coronavirus Age, Sex, Demographics (COVID-19) - Worldometer

We know that of that of those 1 million 13.1% would be over the age of 80, that means 131,000 of that 14.8% will die. so we could expect a mortality rate of 19,388 will die. Now that is a scary number, but keep in mind, so far only 150,000 people worldwide have got the disease so far. So a more realistic number would be much lower but for ease of math we will go with 1 million. Then we are looking at a mortality rate of 19,388 people dying. Also take into account we have superior air quality, sanitary conditions, and healthcare and I'm pretty sure the mortality rate here will drop as well.

Don't even get me started on the mortality rate for those under the age of 50. it's ridiculously low. Roughly two thirds of our population is under 50 so if we are looking at 1 million national cases we know that 660,000 would be under the age of 50 and the death rate for that group would be 132 people. Probably less because so far no one under the age of 10 has died from the virus.

To put this in perspective, in the US, 90 people die each day from a car crash.

This is why I keep calling you people snow flakes.

AB, you may be right about the numbers but nobody wants to be put in the position of choosing who doesn’t get the respirator to survive, or whom isn’t admitted to the hospital. On average those numbers aren’t scary, but there will be hot spots that could overrun local response. I think that is the issue.