Coronavirus

[LongestHorn]

 

[iatrogenic]

Of course it's not, if it was fool proof no one in Oklahoma would have one.

Wouldn’t they all have one?

 

[Monahorns]

bystander, I agree and hope that we don't get a spike in COVID infections because of the economic reopening. An increase in cases is inevitable, but hopefully minimize-able.

One thing I don't get. Why hasn't hand sanitizer production ramped up? Or at least I don't hear anything about it. To me this is even more important than masks. Let's be honest. Wearing a mask sucks. In a Texas summer it will super suck. I personally have trouble breathing in them. To top it all off, they look really stupid.

But if we all had a steady supply of hand sanitizer, a lack of masks or someone's choice not to wear one would be much less of a problem. I could reach into my pocket every time I touched a surface in public or before I had to scratch my face and sanitize my hands. We would all be in much less risk. It could open up sporting events sooner and gyms.

So why no talk about the importance of cranking up hand sanitizer supply? Or even alcohol wipes?

 

[LongestHorn]

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

Why hasn't hand sanitizer production ramped up? Or at least I don't hear anything about it.

It has.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

 

[mchammer]

Where is scientists pretending to be economic modelers on the chart?

 

[mchammer]

bystander, I agree and hope that we don't get a spike in COVID infections because of the economic reopening. An increase in cases is inevitable, but hopefully minimize-able.

One thing I don't get. Why hasn't hand sanitizer production ramped up? Or at least I don't hear anything about it. To me this is even more important than masks. Let's be honest. Wearing a mask sucks. In a Texas summer it will super suck. I personally have trouble breathing in them. To top it all off, they look really stupid.

But if we all had a steady supply of hand sanitizer, a lack of masks or someone's choice not to wear one would be much less of a problem. I could reach into my pocket every time I touched a surface in public or before I had to scratch my face and sanitize my hands. We would all be in much less risk. It could open up sporting events sooner and gyms.

So why no talk about the importance of cranking up hand sanitizer supply? Or even alcohol wipes?

In some states, 60% of deaths are at nursing homes. In Montgomery county, 100% of deaths are in nursing homes. The infection rate at nursing homes (workers and inhabitants) is likely at 60% or higher. This is why death rate is going down. The damage has mostly been done by now.

 

[NJlonghorn]

But if we all had a steady supply of hand sanitizer, a lack of masks or someone's choice not to wear one would be much less of a problem. I could reach into my pocket every time I touched a surface in public or before I had to scratch my face and sanitize my hands. We would all be in much less risk. It could open up sporting events sooner and gyms.

You are right about the need to balance costs against benefits, and there is a wide range of defensible positions on that point. However, hand sanitizer is only a small part of the equation.

Typically, coronavirus passes through the air. If you inhale air that was exhaled by a contagious person, you are at risk. Obviously, hand sanitizer does nothing to protect against that risk.

 

[Garmel]

Yet, ANTIFA protests are normal, healthy people, right? You far left libs are freaking sheep.

 

[horninchicago]

Where is scientists pretending to be economic modelists on the chart?

Yet, ANTIFA protests are normal, healthy people, right? You far left libs are freaking sheep.

Y'all aren't expecting an intelligent response are you?

 

[LongestHorn]

 

[bystander]

Of course looting never happens and if the food chain were ever disrupted nobody would loot. Right?

 

[horninchicago]

Of course looting never happens and if the food chain were ever disrupted nobody would loot. Right?

You don't expect an intelligent reply do you?

 

[Garmel]

Y'all aren't expecting an intelligent response are you?

Not really. I'm still trying to figure out how people wanting jobs before they go bankrupt became the bad guys in this country.

 

[LongestHorn]

Three weeks of Trump coronavirus briefings under a microscope: 2 hours spent on attacks, 45 minutes on self-congratulation — and 4½ minutes of condolences for victims

 

[horninchicago]

Not really. I'm still trying to figure out how people wanting jobs before they go bankrupt became the bad guys in this country.

Anything to make Trump look bad in the pea brains of the TDS people is all it takes.

 

[LongestHorn]

Vice President Mike Pence tours Mayo Clinic without coronavirus mask even though he was told to wear one

 

[Monahorns]

Typically, coronavirus passes through the air. If you inhale air that was exhaled by a contagious person, you are at risk. Obviously, hand sanitizer does nothing to protect against that risk.

If that were the case it would be much more infectious than it is. Plus, I have read otherwise.

 

[Monahorns]

It has.

Good news. Where have you heard it? I haven't heard about it.

 

[Monahorns]

Well, Pence better not gripe if he gets infected. If he doesn't though...

 

[horninchicago]

Well, Pence better not gripe if he gets infected. If he doesn't though...

I doubt he would gripe.

 

[AC]

bystander, I agree and hope that we don't get a spike in COVID infections because of the economic reopening. An increase in cases is inevitable, but hopefully minimize-able.

One thing I don't get. Why hasn't hand sanitizer production ramped up? Or at least I don't hear anything about it. To me this is even more important than masks. Let's be honest. Wearing a mask sucks. In a Texas summer it will super suck. I personally have trouble breathing in them. To top it all off, they look really stupid.

But if we all had a steady supply of hand sanitizer, a lack of masks or someone's choice not to wear one would be much less of a problem. I could reach into my pocket every time I touched a surface in public or before I had to scratch my face and sanitize my hands. We would all be in much less risk. It could open up sporting events sooner and gyms.

So why no talk about the importance of cranking up hand sanitizer supply? Or even alcohol wipes?

My company supports hand sanitizer production. We de-odorize the corn ethanol so it won’t have a repugnant odor. Trying to do this nationwide. Large producers have to use corn ethanol as ISO Propyl Alcohol is in short supply. Shameless plug, sorry!

 

[UTChE96]

LOL. So unintentionally ironic.

 

[Garmel]

Three weeks of Trump coronavirus briefings under a microscope: 2 hours spent on attacks, 45 minutes on self-congratulation — and 4½ minutes of condolences for victims

 

[Garmel]

I always wondered how people convinced themselves how the unborn are somehow not human beings. Thanks, LH!

 

[theiioftx]

I’ve had multiple hospital administrators tell me privately that cases are being over reported. Belief is that additional federal dollars will be tied to cases treated. I have no link to this, but I do trust what these people are telling me.

Hospitals have taken a beating on this. Not only is surgical volume down, so is census at many hospitals as well as other ancillary services.

 

[Monahorns]

My company supports hand sanitizer production. We de-odorize the corn ethanol so it won’t have a repugnant odor. Trying to do this nationwide. Large producers have to use corn ethanol as ISO Propyl Alcohol is in short supply. Shameless plug, sorry!

That's awesome AC. Would be interested to learn more about your company. DM me, if you have time.

 

[Monahorns]

I’ve had multiple hospital administrators tell me privately that cases are being over reported. Belief is that additional federal dollars will be tied to cases treated. I have no link to this, but I do trust what these people are telling me.

Well, there it is. Evidence.

I also hear hospitals have so much free time, they are sending nurses and doctors out into cities in their scrubs for photo ops and to direct traffic at busy intersections.

 

[dukesteer]

You are right about the need to balance costs against benefits, and there is a wide range of defensible positions on that point. However, hand sanitizer is only a small part of the equation.

Typically, coronavirus passes through the air. If you inhale air that was exhaled by a contagious person, you are at risk. Obviously, hand sanitizer does nothing to protect against that risk.

The chart below has probably been posted multiple times but I’m too lazy to check. But as someone mentioned above, wearing a mask is not an enjoyable experience. Add glasses and it’s almost unmanageable. I have tried every technique imaginable to prevent fogging, and nothing has worked.

Someone needs to design a protective new beekeepers type of covering, but with a sophisticated mesh — in only the nose & mouth areas — comparable to 3M’s N95 material. They do actually make an N99 version, blocking even more small particles... like 99% of airborne particles of MMD (Mass Mean Diameter) 0.3 microns.