Baylor Mind-Blowing

I am appalled to learn that the Waco Tribune Herald, which back in the day I followed state newspapers had a reputation for good journalism, has fallen so far.

It's inconceivable to me that the crime reporter would ignore ANY indictment for rape in a community as small as Waco, much less that of a heralded football prospect.

To me lack of coverage makes me wonder if:
1. The Waco paper is so clueless and inept to not know the indictment happened? ( When I worked for newspapers, we grabbed the list of indictments as soon as they were issued and no one got indicted without getting his/her name in the paper.)
2. Tribune-Herald reporters and news editors had such poor news judgment they did not see the story as newsworthy.
3. The paper is afraid of Briles and Baylor.
4. The paper is in bed with Briles and Baylor.
5. The paper really thought the perp was innocent and did all it could to protect his reputation.
 
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Another example of a story I will tell my daughter to explain not to go places with people you think you kow but don't really know.

A simple google by her would have given her information to be more cautious.

Note: I'm not blaming her, but always know who you're hanging with.
 
Crockett said:
I am appalled to learn that the Waco Tribune Herald, which back in the day I followed state newspapers had a reputation for good journalism, has fallen so far.

It's inconceivable to me that the crime reporter would ignore ANY indictment for rape in a community as small as Waco, much less that of a heralded football prospect.

To me lack of coverage makes me wonder if:
1. The Waco paper is so clueless and inept to not know the indictment happened? ( When I worked for newspapers, we grabbed the list of indictments as soon as they were issued and no one got indicted without getting his/her name in the paper.)
2. Tribune-Herald reporters and news editors had such poor news judgment they did not see the story as newsworthy.
3. The paper is afraid of Briles and Baylor.
4. The paper is in bed with Briles and Baylor.
5. The paper really thought the perp was innocent and did all it could to protect his reputation.
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I vote #3.
 
Godz40acres said:
Presumably, Briles mistakenly figured it would be OK to just steal a page from the playbook of Saban, the Alabama coach who signed 340-pound nose guard Jonathan Taylor after he was kicked out of Georgia for two felony charges involving domestic violence. Taylor has since been kicked out of Alabama after he was arrested again on domestic violence charges, and the SEC has enacted a new rule prohibiting league schools from accepting transfers with histories of domestic violence or sexual assault.

It seems ridiculous that leagues would actually find in necessary to enact such a rule.
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There is a tidal wave of change happening at college universities about sexual assault and violence against women. The times are changing about how the public reacts to this issue and how the federal government handles it. Yet some schools and their coaches aren't totally on board.

This isn't about deserving a second chance. It's about universities and coaches being held accountable for recruiting decisions that put their student body at risk.
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For any pondering and questioning the Charlie Strong hire.... such as by looking back to "what if" had Saban come to Texas, or assuming Briles is the kind of coach that might continue to woo top offensive talent from the State ... well, there you are. Who knows what things may look like across the State of Texas football landscape after this season. Ready for Sept 5th.
 
Don't get in the way, momentum must be sustained people.

The McLane Stadium monument, very recent winning on the Brazos, fundraising $ going to athletics / BU, revitalization of parts of Waco, Art Briles reputation.

You watch, the decision makers and cigar chompers at BU will do their in-house investigation and come up with some kind of tortured and convoluted defense of Briles about this thug player and his crime. After all, sometimes co-eds must be ignored / sacrificed for the betterment of the program.

I could be wrong, but I suspect BU will pass off this terribly sordid scandal, despite the evidence, to: "Briles didn't know all the facts".

With all due respect: BS.

The statement will go on to say: "The BU family regrets what happened to the young woman, etc. but we all agree this must never happen again. The young man has been sentenced in a court of law and is being punished" (like they had anything to do with it).

Now let's move on...
 
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About time for conferences to establish codes of conduct and expell violators that build such a track record as was laid out in that document. Frankly I'm fed up with Baylor. Briles does appear a perfect fit there.

Why would worthy Baylor alums tolerate that? Strong is looking Stronger by the day. Class coach. Class program. Class University.
 
Baylor: When you're 3 and 8 and the doormat of the league and you just want to win so bad that nothing else matters.

I am not convinced Briles' winning ways are due so much to coaching genius. When the spotlight is on Baylor and Briles, things will unravel and Baylor will soon return to their rightful place and order will be restored.
 
My prediction:

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I well remember Dixon... hard hitter, took a lot of cheap shots. Was prime NFL material all right, but way beneath code. Ever since I watched him play, I've felt Baylor and Briles have a lot of commupance due.

Now just turn around and get your time....
 
I read the article. I usually have a comment but I don't know what to say. The Baylor fans are alright with this!? What the hell is going on done there? This is almost Penn State level stuff.
 
Bevo,

Being Baptist for many years, I have posted before that in one of the very largest Baptist churches in the country the standard joke is "Nothing is wrong, it just ain't as right as we'd like for it to be". Baylor's administration has been burying its head in the sand for several decades. While I have been openly critical of our administration for may years, their administrative offices have been in internal turmoil and basically without leadership for as long as I can remember. In the interim, they have allowed their close friends to fill positions which should have been occupied by someone with experience and competence. Instead, they let people like Robert Sloan come in, raise tuition to horrendous rates, and watch the recruiting of their graduates, interviews and job offers dry up. So, if you have children, lots of surplus cash, why not pay Vanderbilt or Ivy tuition for an Arlington State education. What has happened to Baylor education in the last 30 years is criminal, but indicative of the mindset that is in charge - education and rules be damned if we can be better than Texas and aTm.
 
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Bevo,

Being Baptist for many years, I have posted before that in one of the very largest Baptist churches in the country the standard joke is "Nothing is wrong, it just ain't as right as we'd like for it to be". Baylor's administration has been burying its head in the sand for several decades. While I have been openly critical of our administration for may years, their administrative offices have been in internal turmoil and basically without leadership for as long as I can remember. In the interim, they have allowed their close friends to fill positions which should have been occupied by someone with experience and competence. Instead, they let people like Robert Sloan come in, raise tuition to horrendous rates, and watch the recruiting of their graduates, interviews and job offers dry up. So, if you have children, lots of surplus cash, why not pay Vanderbilt or Ivy tuition for an Arlington State education. What has happened to Baylor education in the last 30 years is criminal, but indicative of the mindset that is in charge - education and rules be damned if we can be better than Texas and aTm.
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Wow! That's incredible!
 
I remember that play from the cotton bowl. The guy's hurt and Briles is pissed because the clock will stop. What a jackass.
 
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Dionysus said:
BU needs a house cleaning. This group is a disgrace.
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I am quite confident the BU internal investigation will be honest, fair and thorough enough to come to the conclusion they need an internal house cleaning, including firing Arty Briles.


Not.
 
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Dionysus said:
180 days for a rape charge on a guy who had previous crimes is obscene. Zero accountability.
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FWIW, it is actually uncommon to see ANY jail time as a condition of probation. And, also FWIW, it is only a matter of time before he is back before the court...sex offender caseload supervision is an almost sure ticket to revocation, especially on a max term (ten years is the max term on community supervision in Texas).

I just don't envision him complying with the therapy requirements and polygraph testing...not sure if the local supervision offices will use the GPS monitoring like the Parole Division does with certain persons released to parole supervision. Am guessing that the supervision will be transferred from McLennan to Harris County since the family lived in the Houston area.
 
mb227 said:
FWIW, it is actually uncommon to see ANY jail time as a condition of probation. And, also FWIW, it is only a matter of time before he is back before the court...sex offender caseload supervision is an almost sure ticket to revocation, especially on a max term (ten years is the max term on community supervision in Texas).

I just don't envision him complying with the therapy requirements and polygraph testing...not sure if the local supervision offices will use the GPS monitoring like the Parole Division does with certain persons released to parole supervision. Am guessing that the supervision will be transferred from McLennan to Harris County since the family lived in the Houston area.
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I think you're spot on mb277. I only hope its not because he raped another victim, but that's probably like hoping for rain in the middle of the Sahara.
 
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arieshorn said:
180 days in jail is the equivalent to possession of 2 oz of weed or less minimum in Texas. Wrap that around your brain.
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It's equivalent to the max that can be imposed on a Class B misdemeanor but rarely is jail used in a POM case.

It is just a matter of time before he screws up the probation and gets his decade in TDCJ...and yes, the Board of Pardons and Paroles will very likely have the information about out-of-state arrests as well. If it isn't on the rap sheet, the rapist will volunteer it at intake when asked about other arrests or contact with law enforcement...

It also would not be a surprise to see him regress to other offenses once he finds out JUST how difficult his life on the registry is about to become...am guessing that the revocation will include non-payment of fees and failure to participate in counseling requirements (sex offender treatment programming is for the duration of the period of supervision) along with, quite probably, a failure to register as required.
 
If it makes anyone feel better, and it probably doesn't, this guy sounds like he got 6 mos. as a condition of probation, meaning, he has to successfully serve his 6 mos. before he gets to go on probation. In my experience, probation is good for people who have made one mistake and are able to learn from it, and move on. The history on this guy suggests he may not do so well as a probationer. So, he may screw up (weed in urine, slap some girl, DWI, etc.) or just not pay his probation fees or take the classes, report, etc., and he gets his first Motion To Revoke Probation. If the allegations are found to be true, he probably gets his probation extended, and he gets to sit in county waiting for the hearing. A lot of times, after 2 or 3 MTRs, they've spent mos. in jail, and get revoked anyway.
 
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