2020 Recruiting - Football

Not 2020 but transfer news

Gerald Wilbon to Louisiana Tech (we dont play them this year, we have USF, UTEP and some other OOC team I forget)
 
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Isn't Wilbon a senior? I mean it makes sense since he has been passed by several guys that is likely to include some freshmen. Good luck to him, hope he has a great season. Actually, I just hope he has a season.
 
It is amazing that someone who played so well for (remember Jawja?) has now chosen to transfer as has Chisolm. Just another example that Adeleye knows nothing about Texas football DL except he would have to redshirt here a year or two. Poor guy.
 
Of all the positions at Texas, Oscar Giles has been damn good at both developing dline talent and taking them to the next level. Poona Ford, Charle Omenihu in his first 2 years. Not sure how Roach will do, but I'm looking forward to watching him as he was a workout warrior in the Combine.

I was a huge advocate of switching to a 4-3 defense because the makeup of our talent was heavy towards the DTS and 3 techniques. I feel very confident Ta'Quon Graham and Coburn are going to have monster years because of this change.

I predict the starters will be Collins, Graham, Coburn, and Ossai will be the best Dline in the Big 12 and one of the top 5 in the country. I actually believe all 4 will be high NFL draft picks.
 
How did we end up with two such promising QBs in the same class?

I doubt anybody has been super happy with the results to date, especially last season, however, I think at the same time you have to admit Herman has been raising the overall talent level of the program pretty dramatically
 
Joe Fan said:
I doubt anybody has been super happy with the results to date, especially last season, however, I think at the same time you have to admit Herman has been raising the overall talent level of the program pretty dramatically
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We thought the same thing about Strong in 15 and 16 classes. The 2016 class had 17 4'star prospects by the end of their eligibility, only 3 panned out and 3 others finished their eligibility. 1 is still with the team and the rest didn't pan out.

I'm happy with the direction Herman is taking the team compared to Strong, but this is his make or break year. The stars are aligned, if he can't win the conference this year, he isn't going to do it.
 
Austin_Bill said:
We thought the same thing about Strong in 15 and 16 classes. The 2016 class had 17 4'star prospects by the end of their eligibility, only 3 panned out and 3 others finished their eligibility. 1 is still with the team and the rest didn't pan out. ....
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IMO the evaluations are better now. And there is zero doubt a lot more work is going into those evaluations now than they were with the previous staff (who only recruited about 2 months out of the year)
 
ViperHorn said:
We will know how much Herman has progressed by the end of the day on 05 December.
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I think by December 5, we will know everything we need to know about Tom. For the last 3 years he has been talking about the system, well now it's time for the system to begin to pay off. If he has a system worth it's salt we will not lose but maybe one game this year. 95% of the players in this system are his, time to put up or shut up.
 
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Austin_Bill said:
I think by December 5, we will know everything we need to know about Tom. For the last 3 years he has been talking about the system, well now it's time for the system to begin to pay off. If he has a system worth it's salt we will not lose but maybe one game this year. 95% of the players in this system are his, time to put up or shut up.
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Come on, maaannn. We will be underdogs in at least 3 games (If Sam stays healthy). We are still 4-5 great recruiting classes away to competing with top 5 teams each week.
 
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Come on, maaannn. We will be underdogs in at least 3 games (If Sam stays healthy). We are still 4-5 great recruiting classes away to competing with top 5 teams each week.
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It does not take 8 years to build a championship program at Texas because we have virtually unlimited resources. I would generally give coaches three to four years to be elite, but we should see dramatic changes after two years. I've said a few times Herman is young and still learning and has reached the end of my grace period. With the talent we have we can compete with anyone and should win 10 games this year. Considering covid combined with the fact we have a brand new staff I will probably give them thru next year before I really start complaining. I truly believe he can get it done.
 
I can't use Covid as an excuse, it is affecting everyone not just us.
Look at the inventory of our assets
QB - 4 year starter and a 3 year backup. Our starter is a Heisman contender.
RB - 3 year starter and two very solid backups. Our starter is a All-Conference Contender.
WR - 4 very solid players with two potential conference players
OL - 3 returning starters and 6 guys that will make up a very solid 2 deep. Our LT is a All-American candidate and likely 1st round NFL draft pick. This is the deepest talent Texas has had in 15 years.
TE - Two solid very capable players.

This is just our offense, lets look at Defense.
DT - Texas is 3 deep at DT with about 6 guys that range from solid starter level to NFL calaber (the latter being Coburn and Graham). This is the deepest position on the team.
DE - Welcome to the weakest position on the team. We have an All-American candidate and about 3 guys that I'm hoping will hold up. Ossai is the most important player on our team, we don't have anyone else with his skill set right now.
Linebacker - This is the second weakest position on the team, we are very limited especially if there are injuries. However I think we have some talent and it will develop over the season. In 2021, this will be a position of strength.
CB - we have a lot of depth and a lot of talent, however it has to finally play up to their talent level.
S - Very very deep and very talented. Second most talented position on the team with a Thorpe candidate and potential 1st round NFL draft pick.

I have said this several times and I will say this here. If Tom Herman and this coaching staff can't get it done this year, it's never going to happen. I know we aren't as talented as bama, clemson, or tosu, but there isn't another school that comes close to Texas and certainly not anyone on our schedule. Don't care what Vegas thinks.
 
Austin_Bill said:
I can't use Covid as an excuse, it is affecting everyone not just us.
Look at the inventory of our assets
QB - 4 year starter and a 3 year backup. Our starter is a Heisman contender.
RB - 3 year starter and two very solid backups. Our starter is a All-Conference Contender.
WR - 4 very solid players with two potential conference players
OL - 3 returning starters and 6 guys that will make up a very solid 2 deep. Our LT is a All-American candidate and likely 1st round NFL draft pick. This is the deepest talent Texas has had in 15 years.
TE - Two solid very capable players.
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i have more question marks about our WR hands and the actual impact of our TEs than you do.

i saw too many drops from Eagles/Epps/Smith to call them very solid. they worry me. i'd love them to improve. but last year was not stellar for those three imo.
 
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i have more question marks about our WR hands and the actual impact of our TEs than you do.

i saw too many drops from Eagles/Epps/Smith to call them very solid. they worry me. i'd love them to improve. but last year was not stellar for those three imo.
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Here is my take on the WRs. Epps has very good hands but he is going to need to learn to block and run routes, he is slow and if he wants to make an impact it's going to be by improving those areas. Eagles has great hands, I don't remember seeing him drop many passes. Smith is a very good receiver, but the most suspect of those 3. I'm looking forward to the return of Josh Moore and Jordan Whittington, I think both those guys are going to make huge impact. Don't sleep on Al'Vonte Woodward, and Marcus Washington. They are going to be in the rotation. I think we have a very solid 8 guys we can rely on.

With all that said, I think the biggest improvement you are going to see in our offense is our run game. I expect us to lean more on the run game than we have in a very long time. We have the players and the offensive line to be a run first offense, and that will open things up for our passing game.
 
Austin_Bill said:
I think by December 5, we will know everything we need to know about Tom. For the last 3 years he has been talking about the system, well now it's time for the system to begin to pay off. If he has a system worth it's salt we will not lose but maybe one game this year. 95% of the players in this system are his, time to put up or shut up.
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You do realize only about 2-3 teams in the NCAA "lose but maybe one game" each year, right?
 
BurntOrangeLH said:
The world is a lot simpler than that for Austin Bill.
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I'm not at all trying to poke at ABill by saying this, but....for my own personal interests in life, I like to set high - but realistic - expectations on things and, when surpassed, it makes those major victories all the sweeter and enjoyable.

My 5 year old daughter has a birthday coming up and she wants a real life flying unicorn with a queen riding on a rainbow of jump houses into a swimming pool of flowers with pink golden cupcakes covered in stardust icing served poolside.
In reality she will be getting a dress, a bible, and a small play barn with two plastic horsies.
...I hope she's not too disappointed.
 
Vol Horn 4 Life said:
It does not take 8 years to build a championship program at Texas because we have virtually unlimited resources. I would generally give coaches three to four years to be elite, but we should see dramatic changes after two years. I've said a few times Herman is young and still learning and has reached the end of my grace period. With the talent we have we can compete with anyone and should win 10 games this year. Considering covid combined with the fact we have a brand new staff I will probably give them thru next year before I really start complaining. I truly believe he can get it done.
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Did you watch NFL draft? Talent isn't there...yet.
 
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You do realize only about 2-3 teams in the NCAA "lose but maybe one game" each year, right?
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You do realize this is Texas and we are coming into this season with 8 returning starters on offense including a 4 year starter at QB and we are deep at every position.

We are coming in with 7 returning starters on defense deep at almost every position with 2 guys that are legit All-American candidates.

This is one of the top 5 best teams in the country talent wise. I expect us to be right there in the conference title game playing for a playoff spot. And I expect us to win that game and win this conference.
 
Austin_Bill said:
You do realize this is Texas and we are coming into this season with 8 returning starters on offense including a 4 year starter at QB and we are deep at every position.

We are coming in with 7 returning starters on defense deep at almost every position with 2 guys that are legit All-American candidates.

This is one of the top 5 best teams in the country talent wise. I expect us to be right there in the conference title game playing for a playoff spot. And I expect us to win that game and win this conference.
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I agree with you 100% AB. This is year 4 for a guy who is at a university with unlimited resources. Lets be honest, the schedule has 2 top tier teams, so if both are really close losses, I can handle that. However, by year 4, the other rif raf on the schedule should be a gimme. In my opinion, the publication that ranked TH in the top 30 of coaches is accurate up to this point. Lets hope 2020 will change that perception.
 
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I agree with you 100% AB. This is year 4 for a guy who is at a university with unlimited resources. Lets be honest, the schedule has 2 top tier teams, so if both are really close losses, I can handle that. However, by year 4, the other rif raf on the schedule should be a gimme. In my opinion, the publication that ranked TH in the top 30 of coaches is accurate up to this point. Lets hope 2020 will change that perception.
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like effing maryland!
 
Handler said:
Did you watch NFL draft? Talent isn't there...yet.
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Past drafts does not indicate what is on the team right now.

Bill is absolutely right that we are stacked with talent and experience. I've heard on sports radio that many mock drafts have two Longhorns going in the first round with others considered second round locks/probabilities. Our Heisman contender might not even get drafted until the 3rd or 4th round if at all because I've heard NFL teams don't like his style. That doesn't mean he isn't a huge influence on this year's offense.

Bill mentioned not using Covid as an excuse this year, but I maintain it is hard/impossible to install a brand new staff and win a championship in year one. Throw in covid and having no spring practice, no meetings to be able to implement vision/plans/etc that makes it even harder.

We'll see what happens but this should be a pretty special year.
 
Well, I was hoping Collins could come in and start for us at SDE for this year because I knew he was destined for DT, but now i think that boat has sailed. This is why I said we don't need to recruit any DTs this year, we got 3 last year.
 
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