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Phil Elliott said:
Players enter the portal of their own accord and they don't have to tell anyone, but, they cannot then just decide, "I want to go to Texas and play for David Pierce" and then just show up at our doorstep. They have to be asked to come here, or anywhere. So players not transferring in doesn't mean anything except we are either a) not seeing anyone we need or b) we don't have any room for them.
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The same applies for our players, so you can’t make any inferences at this point about DP being a great coach, either. In fact, our players have good reason to “wait and see”, whether they like DP or not. Now, if we get to the end of the cycle and most of our guys have stayed and we’ve also made some great additions, then I’m sort of with you. I say sort of because that should be the expectation at UT, across all sports.
 
Who is to say that the players have not "tested the waters" through wannabe agents and found the interest level less than they anticipated or at least not interest from programs they would prefer?

Regardless of who is coach or the success of the program, do you really want to leave Texas to transfer to Murray State? If you are MLB potential, it will show wherever you are, but to eventually get that degree from somewhere that helps after baseball.
 
Phil Elliott said:
I do think he has done enough to be given more time and I do think we are more likely to regress if a change is made because there are not a whole lot of coaches out there who are clearly better than DP and who would also take the job.
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I can appreciate your position, and I think you’re right about the likelihood of regression, at least in the short term, if we make a change. However, if that happens, it may be necessary to get where we need to be. We certainly regressed in the Sarks first year, but I doubt if anyone would argue that we aren’t on a better trajectory now and that it wasn’t worth it. It doesn’t always work that way, of course, but the highest achievements are seldom achieved without taking some risk.
 
Phil Elliott said:
I do think he has done enough to be given more time and I do think we are more likely to regress if a change is made because there are not a whole lot of coaches out there who are clearly better than DP and who would also take the job.
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I don't agree , but understand your position. I think I was the only one here on Hornfans who didn't want to fire Mack Brown (probably not quite accurate but it sure felt that way). I was afraid we'd spend years wandering in the wilderness, which is kind of what ended up happening. In hindsight, it was probably time for him to go and I might have felt differently at the time if we had been about to join the SEC.
 
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give,

We wouldn't have wandered years in the wilderness if Billy Powers had done what he agreed to do rather than trying to create a legacy for himself. I told him then that his actions had set our program back twenty years. Bitter? Hell yes! I only have so many years to enjoy Longhorn football, and that son-of-a-***** wasted nearly a decade of them.

I am very happy with Chris and his hiring Sark, but I will always question what could have been.
 
I didn't want to see Mack get fired either, i thought he would eventually turn it around but he got complacent. He still hasn't figured it out at North Carolina, he's not the coach he once was.
 
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That would make me happy on a number of levels:
1. I think Schloss is one of the very best coaches in college baseball,
2. We would be much better prepared for the secsecsec (IMHO), &
3. It would make aggy's collective head explode.
My only concern; the # of Horns (myself included) who would be at risk of dying of schadenfreude.
 
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1sahorn said:
That would make me happy on a number of levels:
1. I think Schlos is one of the very best coaches in college baseball,
2. We would be much better prepared for the secsecsec (IMHO), &
3. It would make aggy's collective head explode.
My only concern; the # of Horns (myself included) who would be at risk of dying of schadenfreude.
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Anyone thinking this is a possibility, just stop. Aggy is probably circulating rumors just so they can claim a “win” over Texas when Schlossnagle announces he’s not going anywhere. Either that, or his agent is planting rumors to maximize his contract extension.
 
WJHorn said:
Anyone thinking this is a possibility, just stop. Aggy is probably circulating rumors just so they can claim a “win” over Texas when Schlossnagle announces he’s not going anywhere. Either that, or his agent is planting rumors to maximize his contract extension.
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Sorry ..but yeah...it's real.
 
If aggy wins an NC there is zero chance Schlossnagle moves, even if they somehow lose the next two, which I don't see happening, he has built a program in three years to be a power for the next several years why jump ship to just start again where he was three years ago. He got his big payday to cover his divorce payoff and can now be a lifetime legend in B/CS while still revered here in FW. Even a stupid money type offer doesn't seem at all likely to get him to move. This seems like a ploy by his agent to get him more money at aggy, money he is going to get anyway once they win today or tomorrow.

Now that said Trev Alberts or CDC, I know which AD I would have more faith in.
 
FWHORN said:
If aggy wins an NC there is zero chance Schlossnagle moves, even if they somehow lose the next two, which I don't see happening, he has built a program in three years to be a power for the next several years why jump ship to just start again where he was three years ago. He got his big payday to cover his divorce payoff and can now be a lifetime legend in B/CS while still revered here in FW. Even a stupid money type offer doesn't seem at all likely to get him to move. This seems like a ploy by his agent to get him more money at aggy, money he is going to get anyway once they win today or tomorrow.

Now that said Trev Alberts or CDC, I know which AD I would have more faith in.
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You may very well be right. But if Schlos stays with aggy, he stays with the cult faction that taunts opponents over child murder. He may say to the press that "this does not rep who aggy is", but he knows in his heart that this is EXACTLY who aggy is & always will be.
Truth is, I doubt Schlos comes to Austin, but I love seeing aggy sweat. Aggy sweat is almost as sweet as aggy tears.
 
That rumor could very well have been planted by Trev, so he can go hire the Astros hitting coach as the new HC. Trev is smart like that.
 
Good friend is an aggie BMD. Says the Schloss offer is real and well over $3M/yr. Said to expect a decision by end of this week. Not a done deal but Ags are not expecting him to stay. If he does stay apparently Vitello is our next option and he will come. He was also at TCU with CDC.

Also claims that Pierce has already been notified.

I know this news is coming from an Ag but he's in the know and wouldn't blow smoke.
 
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Good friend is an aggie BMD. Says the Schloss offer is real and well over $3M/yr. Said expect to expect a decision by end of this week. Not a done deal but Ags are not expecting him to stay. If he does stay apparently Vitello is our next option and he will come. He was also at TCU with CDC.

Also claims that Pierce has already been notified.

I know this news is coming from an Ag but he's in the know and wouldn't blow smoke.
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Wow. This is exciting news. I would be thrilled with either one. I really hope it’s true. If the $3 million number is accurate then the market for new coaches is about to change. I didn’t think any college baseball coach made that kind of money.
 
There's some bad buzz circling around that Coach Pierce is going to dump us, and either retire or coach someplace where he's more appreciated. I'm sure CDC is filling up the dump trucks with $$$$ in a last ditch attempt to convince Coach Pierce to stick around.

Perhaps out of sympathy to the department and to let the University save face, Pierce might even go along with making it look like he was fired. What a selfless move.

Let's hope the big $$$$ is enough to keep Pierce around. It will be a crying shame if he jilts us, then goes and turns Marquette into a perpetual baseball power, or something...
 
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There's some bad buzz circling around that Coach Pierce is going to dump us, and either retire or coach someplace where he's more appreciated. I'm sure CDC is filling up the dump trucks with $$$$ in a last ditch attempt to convince Coach Pierce to stick around.

Perhaps out of sympathy to the department and to let the University save face, Pierce might even go along with making it look like he was fired. What a selfless move.

Let's hope the big $$$$ is enough to keep Pierce around. It will be a crying shame if he jilts us, then goes and turns Marquette into a perpetual baseball power, or something...
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If he goes to Marquette I hope he grows his hair out.
 
LHABSOB said:
Good friend is an aggie BMD. Says the Schloss offer is real and well over $3M/yr. Said expect to expect a decision by end of this week. Not a done deal but Ags are not expecting him to stay. If he does stay apparently Vitello is our next option and he will come. He was also at TCU with CDC.

Also claims that Pierce has already been notified.

I know this news is coming from an Ag but he's in the know and wouldn't blow smoke.
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I would think aggy would match that $3M per year then Schloss wouldn't have to start from scratch with us.
 
Chop said:
I'm sure CDC is filling up the dump trucks with $$$$ in a last ditch attempt to convince Coach Pierce to stick around.
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That would be the height of stupidity, even if we want to keep Pierce. Best case for him is that he is retained with no pay raise and some very stern marching orders (e.g. hire a damn pitching coach). And by the way, the coach that left for Marquette deserved to be fired, regardless of what he does there - he was given ample opportunity to succeed at UT and was an utter failure.
 
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I would think aggy would match that $3M per year then Schloss wouldn't have to start from scratch with us.
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We have tons of under developed talent that would have been capable of making it to Omaha this year. He wouldn't be starting from scratch.

Also, sometimes money isn't the only motivator.
 
das3603 said:
If the $3 million number is accurate then the market for new coaches is about to change.
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CdC has the resources to exceed that if he wants to. That plus Jimbo's $10 million plus all of the money aggy is spending on new facilities probably is going to put them close to cheating by using Permanent Funds again.
 
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