where is greggo?

I really thought they came across as vindictive pricks today. They obviously had some pent up frustration with Greggo, but I'm not sure it justified the venom they were spewing. I'll be turning the Ticket off once Why Today Doesn't Suck starts from now on.
 
They definitely didn't sugarcoat their feelings but if a friend of mine was jeopardizing my livelihood, I would be pissed. I think these guys appreciate what a great job they have and their ability to generate ratings depends largely on the chemistry of the show. If a guy has a victim complex, refuses to participate in the show, and is more interested in getting high with his Uptown buddies, he is putting the rest of the hosts' careers at risk. I can understand their anger if their version of the events leading up to Greggo's dismissal are true.

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I've always liked what Corby had to say, but I'd venture to guess that behind the scenes he's kind of a prick. Today he was put on the defense, a move that could have been prevented if he gave a quote or two to the Observer.

It seems that Mike/Corby et al were most scared that the higher ups would notice their show was tanking with Greg high all the time, and that's why they're so mad at him. But honestly, "tanking" for the Hardline is like having a mediocre episode of SportsCenter or something like that... no listener "really" cares if they sucked that day.

If what the guys said is true today, then it really was a two-way tough street. Tougher for Greg, because of addiction, but you can't blame the rest of them for being hurt and defensive.
 
What I gathered from the article was that Rhynes was the primary driver behind him being let go.

He had a new contract, signed after his rehab, and then the "intervention" that wasn't. Greggo was let go shortly after that.

Rhynes was reportedly the one most upset in the intervention. They hadn't spoke off the air since the late 90s. And he had said he would walk if Greggo was brought back.

Corby is probably worried about his livelihood, so he doesn't contact Greggo because he doesn't want to get on Rhyner's bad side.

Rhyner is so angry, he might relish the thought of robbing Greggo of Corby's friendship.
 
I don't understand all the sympathy for Greggo? He is an addict. Addicts lie. They lie, lie, lie in order to get their next fix. Greggo maybe sober today but what about a month from now.
 
exactly. everyone pretty much likes greggo. he is the one host on that station that most every person you asked, would like. but the poster above me put it well. haven't you had a friend or coworker like this before? one that lies all the ******* time, about insane ****, like he was a sought after baseball player and he played for the expos.....

well, i've known a few guys like that. the thing is, none of those guys ever had the opportunity to ruin my career. for those of you with a career you enjoy, think about it. what if one of your coworkers (possibly friend) was about to make you lose your job. would you extend him the same courtesy time and time and time again?
 
I don't get some of y'all either and the blind hate for Corby just bc he is a Sooner fan is idiotic. Corby tried to help him but he wold never admit his use. I do think the piling on was a little much so the remaining guys aren't without blame but the great majority of blame is Greggo's.

They gave him so many chances, and he lied so many times that at some point you just have to distance. Here is a good synopsis of the segment they did yesterday form Texas Diesel of OB's


'Corby and Danny said they didn't comment on the article or return the author's phone calls because they knew Mike was giving a part of their side and they didn't want to pile on. They knew Mike was going to tell about one of the pre-show meetings and Greggo's nose bleeds so didn't feel the need to talk about any of the other 4 times the same thing happened. The actually stated they didn't want to pile on Greg because they felt it would make it look worse on him. They were only responding because of all of the e-mails calling them out and calling them pieces of **** for turning their back on the guy.

Corby was genuinely hurt by the accusations because he tried at least 4 times within a few week period to help him threw it. He told Greg he recognized what was going on and wanted to help only to have Greg swear to him that he wasn't using. When he walked in on Greg snorting coke on the toilet he had pretty much had enough. He tried several more times with Greg swearing he had stopped and just had alergies. Corby spoke to him shortly before Cat demanding he get a drug test with Greg stating he swore he wasn't using only for Greg to then admit he couldn't pass the test. He lied so much that none of them could trust him anymore and they felt it was too taxing on their lives to continue. They were infuriated that Greg said he couldn't see why they were so upset because it was only affecting him. They said that any time he was late to a show, they feared he was dead because of his previous weight condition and heavy use of coke must have a negative affect on his heart.

Rhynes seemed the most bitter about it and said they were great friends initially but got to a point where Greg lied so much that he couldn't take it any more. He said that Danny and Corby were much more accepting of the drug addiction and he wasn't. He said that Greg knew he was OCD but then decided to risk everything by taking a drug that everyone knew can be addictive an especially to those with OCD type personalities. He felt that the selfish decision to do drugs regardless of how it affected all of those around him was enough for him to say, "I'm done." '
 
My only knowledge of the situation is from the article, so I'm not as experienced with it as others. My questions is how Greggo jeopardized the others' careers? If his not being on the show hurts the show, shouldn't he get credit for letting the others enjoy a "good run" becasue of him? And if he is not the reason why the show was successful, then shouldn't their careers do just fine based on their own talents and not Greggo's with him being gone? Serious question.
 
Here's where they lost me.
Rhyner at the beginning of segment 1, snarks "And hopefully this'll be the last time we'll have to talk about it or him."

Then, 2 minutes into segment 2, he's openly soliciting for anyone of "a Richie Whitt-type" to come chat him up for all the juicy little details either left out or just not revealed.

Like Rhyner always said, OUT!
 
Though I live in Austin now, I was working in Dallas when The Ticket began, and listened from Day 1. Still tune in regularly via the internet broadcast. Rhyner was a cranky old man on day 1, and he still is. That said, I never thought Greggo was that talented, though he was a likeable radio personality.
My take: I have no problem with "tough love," and not being an enabler. However, once someone takes the steps that Williams has now taken, even if you don't want to be his friend, it's time to forgive, wish them well and move on. Making some type of contact is also typically appropriate, though certainly you're not required to be friends. What I took from the article and from listening to teh braodcast yesterday was that neither Rhyner nor Corby have manned up enough to do any of that.
I alos found it odd that Dan Bennett signed him to a new (lower salaried) contract, then turned around a couple of days later and fired/forced him out. This is the same Dan Bennett, though, that fired Chuck Cooperstein in favor of Rocco Pendola.....
 
Whitt's article was written from Greggo's perspective and was, IMO, therefore overly sympathetic to Greggo and painted unfairly in his favor.

The guy admits to being (a) a coke addict, (b) a prescription pain medication addict, (c) obsessive-compulsive, and (d) a pathological liar. Then, Whit goes and writes an article that asks us to believe Greggo over Rhyner, Corby, etc.

I actually listen to the Hard Line more now that Greggo is gone. Good riddance.
 
Greggo created a negative work environment and that is a gawd awful to deal with. We have a small group of people on a team that all have to work together and nobody likes 1 guy. He fucks stuff up, makes us look bad and the tension so thick that you can cut it with a knife. The energy is so negative that nothing gets done and our team is suffering. I’m just glad I don’t work somewhere where they fire the entire crew unlike in radio where it’s been done many many times. The numbers suffer, everyone gets the axe and they bring in a new show.

Also, I don’t like Corby and I always liked Greggo but screw him. Like my dad use to say, I got no use for liar. Corby did nothing wrong and I still don’t like him much.
 
Rhyner started the station. He, and the investor's sold years ago. Obviously, major $$.

Overall, a shame that the Hardline has been fraudulent to their lilsteners since 99. Thats the amazing part to me.
 
I don't understand why everyone thinks Rhyner and Corby are such ********. Relationships last when each side is willing to give an equal amount or close to that amount. When one side is giving WAY more than the other over time then it's time to cut ties and move on. Greggo pissed on something that those guys obviously care a ton about and lied in the process. I wish Greggo luck and hope he gets his **** straight and I wish the Hardline luck as well. Why can't both successfully move on?
 
^^^ that's really an amazing thought for me. I started listening in 2002 and for 5 years I totally bought into that concept and have a hard time imagining that not to be true even though I know for a fact that it isn't true. I don't feel betrayed or that they were being fraudulent towards me though, I just feel naive.
 
For those that believe the Hardline was being disingenuous, do you guys also believe that Black Sabbath were really Devil worshippers?

Do you also believe that Alice Cooper performed sacrifices on stage?

Do you also believe that Russell Crowe is a paranoid schizophrenic who is exceptionally good at math?

C'mon.

They're entertainers.

They entertain people on the radio.

They are very sucessful at what they do, they know why people listen, and they perpetuate that image for the sake of the show.
 
just wanted to add my two cents, a ticket listener from around '01 to now. Since all of this broke, I have listened occasionally to the hardline. Like a lot of people, I bought into the hype of the hardline, the idea that they were friends off the air.

When I do listen to the hardline, which is rare, I get the impression they're just burning segments, which of course, is what they were doing before, it's just that when you think of it strictly as a business, you have a different experience compared to the idea of having a friendly community on the air.

I still listen daily to Dunham and Miller, they have fantastic chemistry, especially the way Gordo irritates George, I swear I would be irritated at Gordo just as much or more. It makes for great entertainment.


I guess one of the things that a listener has to decide is:

Do I want a listening experience where I can escape reality? The answer for me was always yes, especially since we're talking about driving during rush hour traffic, I wanted to get some entertainment by people who had integrity, in which their business was more than a business. That is what they were selling, I bought into it, it's gone, I'm 98% gone.

For the Hardline show, they set a very high standard in terms of providing that escapism entertainment, and it will be interesting to see if their ratings ever fall significantly.
 
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