UT, OU, and SEC?

LonghornDave said:
I am still surprised SEC took Aggie. Miss schools, LSU and Vandy didn't want them and now LSU is pissed they changed their minds. Aggie reaction to the leak in the Chronicle is hilarious and paints Aggie in a poor light.
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Agree but ags were a joke in the big12 so why not continue the tradition!!! I dont particularly like the move to the SEC but the big12 has to many low level schools. The mountain west will love them. Would like to see OSU move with Texas/OU as mullet boy puts out a pretty good team year after year.
 
n64ra said:
Folks are talking about what happens to the tagalong 8 from the Big 12, but I'm kinda curious what ACC teams the Big 10 takes to get to 16 members a la Maryland. They missed Mizzou and ND already said no. VTech and UNC? I think they'd both kiss the ACC good bye just as easily as Maryland did. Big 10 seems too slow to grab Clemson or FSU. Then the ACC and Pac-12 fight for the 8 Big 12 leftovers.
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If worst comes to worst, the B1G could fill out their roster with Central Michigan U, Western Michigan U, and Eastern Michigan U, lol
 
Don’t like it because I’ve enjoyed bad mouthing the SEC all these years and thus makes it look like ‘if you can’t beat them join them’. Plus I don’t like doing anything behind aggie. NIL will probably ruin things for me anyway so this may just be a pile on.
 
64,

Delany went after UNC & UVA as a package for the BigTen and his old TV package. UVA has no leadership and hasn't had anyone with a backbone in AD's office since Terry Holland left. Problem was/is UNC is tied at the hip with Duke. (Don't know why, but they are) Will that change with Coach K retiring?
 
nashhorn said:
Don’t like it because I’ve enjoyed bad mouthing the SEC all these years and thus makes it look like ‘if you can’t beat them join them’. Plus I don’t like doing anything behind aggie. NIL will probably ruin things for me anyway so this may just be a pile on.
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I think the NIL rules changed the game. We can pay players now. So it's mooted the cheating going on in the SEC.

Money is all that matters to these people. A super-conference including Texas and OU will draw money like a slot machine.

As for academics, I couldn't care less. If someone thinks a diploma from the University of Texas is inferior because we compete against the best in football then that's a flawed perception.

We're not Ivy League and hopefully we're not Berkeley. We're Texas and a world class educational facility, funded even further by a windfall from increased revenues from football is what I'm seeing as the vision.
 
n64ra said:
Folks are talking about what happens to the tagalong 8 from the Big 12, but I'm kinda curious what ACC teams the Big 10 takes to get to 16 members a la Maryland. They missed Mizzou and ND already said no. VTech and UNC? I think they'd both kiss the ACC good bye just as easily as Maryland did. Big 10 seems too slow to grab Clemson or FSU. Then the ACC and Pac-12 fight for the 8 Big 12 leftovers.
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This is the best offseason for speculation that we've ever had.

I think the most likely scenario for the remaining 8 is they merge with the Mountain West and it becomes the "Mountains and Plains" conference or something like that. If the playoffs expand, they've got a fair argument that their champion be included.

Other possibilities is the BIG 12 expands via the likes of UH, SMU, Rice, Tulsa, La. Tech, etc.

In any event, WV is likely heading to the BIG or the ACC. Culturally, I think they're more of a BIG sort of place. But... WV' academics may raise some eyebrows at Northwestern, Michigan, U of I, Wisconsin, etc. Of course, they took Nebraska, so academics are not the deciding factor.

I don't think the PAC really wants any of them, although they might at least consider TCU and Tech to plant a recruiting flag in Texas. The SEC doesn't want any of them. The BIG doesn't want any of them other than maybe WV and/or ISU (although far-sighted folks up North might also want to plant a recruiting flag in Texas). The ACC? Sure with WV. After that...? Maybe KU as a basketball school. KU would do itself a favor and nix the sport of football entirely and (athletically speaking) focus on being a basketball school.

I think Tech, TCU, OSU, and WV could add some value to another conference.

ISU - better hope the BIG wants them and start kissing U. of Iowa's rear end
KSU - hung out to dry
KU - people want their basketball, but that's about it
BU - nobody wants to touch this toxic waste with a 10 foot pole
 
Can fend for themselves well enough:

:osu::tech::tcu::wvu:



Probably Screwed:
:isu::ku:



Screwed:
:ksu:



Screwed, Blued, and Tattooed (bout what their ex-players did...; do Baptists believe in Karma???):

:bu:
 
Interesting thought:

In the unlikely event the PAC invites Texas Tech, that would be a huge recruiting boon for Tech, and a big boost for their program status and prestige.

They could be thanking us in a few years...
 
Big XII would need to parlay some kind of deal in order to remain "Power 5" for football. It'd be even worse than the Big East before the ACC took over their best programs. But even with its flaws, I still think it's preferable to the AAC or MWC. Nabbing UH, Cincy, UCF, Marshall, Memphis, or even SMU would seem like an insult to the current makeup with Texas and OU, but could help the new iteration.
 
LonghornDave said:
I am still surprised SEC took Aggie. Miss schools, LSU and Vandy didn't want them and now LSU is pissed they changed their minds. Aggie reaction to the leak in the Chronicle is hilarious and paints Aggie in a poor light.
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This is tacit admission by the SEC that taking A&M was a mistake. Now, if they were thinking that taking A&M would entice OU and Texas, then that is next level thinking.
 
n64ra said:
Folks are talking about what happens to the tagalong 8 from the Big 12, but I'm kinda curious what ACC teams the Big 10 takes to get to 16 members a la Maryland. They missed Mizzou and ND already said no. VTech and UNC? I think they'd both kiss the ACC good bye just as easily as Maryland did. Big 10 seems too slow to grab Clemson or FSU. Then the ACC and Pac-12 fight for the 8 Big 12 leftovers.
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I think Iowa St. and K-State could fit B10.

But TTech, Okie light and Bailor might go better with Pac12.
WV to ACC,
 
Chop said:
Lest nobody forget...

Ultimately, Arkansas started this mess...

:ark:
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Yes they did. Prior to their defection, conferences were set in stone. I remember thinking, can they do that?

I played golf with two piggies back in 1990. I knew they were piggies by the Razorback wood covers one of them had and the smell. When I asked how they felt about leaving the SWC. They were all blustery; “f*ck Texas” and all that. They couldn’t wait to get to the SEC because Texas referees were always screwing them. They were sure they’d get a better shake in the SEC. Funny thing is, Arky became a nothing after that. They’d been a big fish nationally in the SWC. They should have listened to their old coach, Frank Broyles. When asked about the move, Broyles said; “they cut your throat and drink your blood in the SEC”. He knew what was coming.
 
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moondog_LFZ said:
I think Iowa St. and K-State could fit B10.

But TTech, Okie light and Bailor might go better with Pac12.
WV to ACC,
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Tech and OSU would be doing very well for themselves if they got an invite to the PAC—as would TCU. Prolly no chance Baylor gets an invite.
 
Clean said:
because Texas referees were always screwing them.
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That's hilarious considering I begged Akers for years to blackball that dentist from El Dorado. He always made critical, if not questionable calls against us EXCEPT:

1) When Akers told Ty Allert to go tell him Grant Teaff was going to run a pick on his side and he wanted it called. Sure enough, he called it and Baylor didn't score.

2) He was the official under the goal post that the FG against UVA good.

To my knowledge, and years of watching Texas, those are the only two calls that he made that ever benefitted us. In the meanwhile, we were putting up with Jim Evans (Baylor), Percy Penn, Bill Began, Shorty Lawson, Frenchy Domingues, among others.

I can't remember if Al Dowden did any Texas/Arkansas games or not. I know he refused to do Texas/OU until his retirement year because he owned the funeral homes in Poteau & Heavner and was afraid of how it might impact his business. Those are both on the Arkansas line.
 
what if the SEC doesn't invite us and OU?

are we going to look like what the aggies hope for?

My guess is the deal gets done but...................
 
At this point there's no turning back now. We go sec or somewhere else. How can aggy be upset, they left the big 12 so screw em. Colin Cowherd is right on 1 thing about winning at all costs and recruiting cheating that's been going on in the sec that everyone knows about and let's it go unchecked, except also ran, Ole Miss. To me the sec and acc also have an advantage of only 8 conference games. Most conference games are tough no matter what conference you're in so the sec excuse of too many good teams to play 9 conference games is stupid. At the end of the day it's been all Alabama with 1 year apiece with Auburn and LSU. If you notice it's been mostly sec and acc winning titles with this formula.
 
Is there ANY chance that Aggies are so mad they leave SEC and come back to Big 12? It would be a money loss for sure but “independence”. OSU could slide in? Or Tech?
 
I'm sure I'm alone in this, but while I tease and make fun of aTm, I cannot believe they were so short sighted and their administration so piss poor that they allowed themselves to be in a position where the conference office NEVER consulted them or included them in any meeting, calls or asked their opinion. Heads need to roll in Brazos County. It's going to be very difficult for Aggies to digest that the great pride they possess in "SEC, SEC, SEC" is reciprocated with being treated like with the mushroom theory. Hell, even South Carolina knew what was going on.
 
UTexRulz23 said:
Is there ANY chance that Aggies are so mad they leave SEC and come back to Big 12?
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Aggies left in part because they were losing $20 million a year. They are not in financial position to consider any steps backward. SEC office knew that when they said, "**** em, they don't deserve or need to know what's happening"
 
It's hard to imagine Tech in the Pac12. Are there 2 more different large schools in the country? The only Pac12 school even remotely like Tech is Wash St.
 
nashhorn said:
Don’t like it because I’ve enjoyed bad mouthing the SEC all these years and thus makes it look like ‘if you can’t beat them join them’. Plus I don’t like doing anything behind aggie. NIL will probably ruin things for me anyway so this may just be a pile on.
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I agree. I hate NIL. The parity just left college sports forever. I don't think we will ever see the day again where a Boise State gets to play OU in the Fiesta Bowl. Or where Mike Leach can turn Washington State into a competitor. They just won't have the money to recruit anyone. College just turned into semi-pro football.
 
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