UT, OU, and SEC?

[BevoJoe]

Exactly!
-Prairie View
-Sam Houston
-Lamar
- Samford
-OU
-Aggie
-Vandy
- Kentucky

No Thank You

I don't like the "warm-up" games against non-Power5 teams. Any non-conference games should be against other P5 programs. There is the money issue since the lower rated programs take a pretty good payday from letting a P5 program beat the snot out of them, but it doesn't make the P5 team any better. Maybe one opening day game, but the other 11 games should be against P5 programs. IIRC, the SEC schedules several non-P5 programs mainly to bolster the "we're the toughest conference" myth. Just my thoughts.

 

[BevoJoe]

Oh yeah:

West Virginia -- they join their couch-burning cousins North of the Ohio in the BIG. The cultural fit between WVU and aOSU is solid (albeit a bit rusty...).

Weirton, West Virginia

Somewhere in West Virginia or Ohio

Ohio and West Virginia might be a great place to open a couch/sofa store. A fella might be a multi-millionaire after a couple of seasons.

 

[Run Pincher]

I have a feeling OSU would want to follow blowU to the SEC, but the SEC probably wouldn't want them. All the old BIG members could probably go back and create another monster conference.

I just don't see Tech, Baylor, TCU going to the Pac12, they could end up in the Mountain West, which would help our recruiting against them.

 

[Clean]

Not all sec schools schedule cupcakes for non conference games. LSU plays a tough schedule. They scheduled us didn’t they? We could schedule whomever we want.

 

[Horns11]

Not all sec schools schedule cupcakes for non conference games. LSU plays a tough schedule. They scheduled us didn’t they?

Pretty sure the SEC balances it out with the "Bama/Auburn" rule that they instituted about 15 years ago. They moved the game from the 3rd week to the 4th week in November, and threw in I-AA (now FCS) teams to get the schedule up to 12 games. So every other SEC team followed suit. I think A&M has the current "most nonconference games against FCS teams" streak among Power-5 teams.

 

[ViperHorn]

padding the conference with schools like UH, SMU, South Fla., etc wouldn’t help much.

Clean I agree, but look at the bottom half of the $EC divisions and those types of schools are already there.

Texas and ou moving will blow everything up. In fact, one could speculate that once Texas and ou actually turn their papers into the Big XII, there is only a 50/50 chance that they end up in the $EC as presently constituted.

 

[n64ra]

If adding UT and OU makes the SEC the first super conference, I say add 8 teams to make the first super duper conference of 22 members.
SEC East is the 10 founding and current SEC teams plus South Carolina.
SEC West is the 8 newly added Big 12 teams plus the two former plus Arkansas.
The teams in those division do a 10 game round robin and send the winner to play the other division champion in a guaranteed non-rematch. ACC, Big 10, and Pac-12 get jealous and ask to merge with the SEC so that the SEC totally replaces the NCAA.

 

[22Horn]

according to this layout, no doubtthe west would be the most dificult !!!

SEC west
Texas
OU
Missouri
Arkansas
Texas A & M
LSU
Ole Miss
Miss St

SEC East
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Vandy
Kentucky
S Carolina
Tennesseee


maybe regroup to north / south

 

[Chop]

If adding UT and OU makes the SEC the first super conference, I say add 8 teams to make the first super duper conference of 22 members.
SEC East is the 10 founding and current SEC teams plus South Carolina.
SEC West is the 8 newly added Big 12 teams plus the two former plus Arkansas.
The teams in those division do a 10 game round robin and send the winner to play the other division champion in a guaranteed non-rematch. ACC, Big 10, and Pac-12 get jealous and ask to merge with the SEC so that the SEC totally replaces the NCAA.

Thinking along those terms...

Or if the SEC absorbs the Big 12 and ACC, and 'SECedes' from the NCAA.

4 divisions: East, West, Border (Northern), and Atlantic Divisions with a playoff for a (sort of) National Championship.

aOSU would apologize for the harsh actions of Ohio native General Sherman and beg for admission. Notre Dame would re-locate its campus to New Orleans and join the fun.

A weakened BIG 10 (minus aOSU) and the PAC would play each other in the Rose Bowl as a 2nd tier league. After a few years, USC can't take it any more, so they beg for admission, having to change their name to "The other USC" as the price of admission.

(only half joking...)

 

[22Horn]

Viper, why do you say only a 50/50 chance of Texas and Sooners joining sec

You thinking new conference?

I like idea of gaining Clemson, FSU, USC, maybe GT and keep TT, OSU, then pull Neb, Ark, Mizz, Utah, + 2 more

new SEC plan is acceptable......

as someone said earlier, the SEC is strong but primarily due to presence of Ala, LSU, just like B12 is strong in football due primarily to Texas and OU.....others in both conference are along for a good ride and paychecks

 

[Crockett]

It's really hard for me to get my head around Texas in the SEC. But the idea of a Super Conference has been kicked around for more than half a century.

 

[SabreHorn]

The only sport they don’t excel in is basketball.

Clean,

The SEC had a better basketball season than the ACC this past year

 

[TXO]

The big money donors at Texas will have a significant say on this so for those that contribute lots of $$$ what are your thoughts? Thanks!

Why would Texas opt for a tougher path to a New Year's Six bowl/conference championship/playoff berth?
Does Texas really need the additional TV $$$?
Why not try to expand the Big12 by poaching other conferences?
When Texas returns back to form, is being more competitive for conference titles every year & top tier bowl games less desirable than middle of the pack in a tougher conference with mid-tier bowl games?

 

[Run Pincher]

The big money donors at Texas will have a significant say on this so for those that contribute lots of $$$ what are your thoughts? Thanks!

Why would Texas opt for a tougher path to a New Year's Six bowl/conference championship/playoff berth?
Does Texas really need the additional TV $$$?
Why not try to expand the Big12 by poaching other conferences?
When Texas returns back to form, is being more competitive for conference titles every year & top tier bowl games less desirable than middle of the pack in a tougher conference with mid-tier bowl games?

Do you think the B12 hasn't already tired to "poach" other conferences? There are no "worthwhile" takers. Cooger High, Rice, Memphis, UTSA, UNM, Tulsa do nothing but make the conference weaker.

 

[huisache]

Just for laughs we should schedule the other A&Ms——Kingsville, Canyon

 

[dukesteer]

SabreHorn has it right, and has had it right for a while. The management of the Big 12 is and has been the issue. This comment, from SH on page 1, is huge:

“Right now, Clemson, FSU, GT, USC are really unhappy with there present situation;”

We’d be better off — and not have to compromise our values — if we could find a way to enhance the conference rather than depart for a conference that lacks the academic and ethical values to which we aspire.

 

[mchammer]

we need to quit kidding ourselves, the sec IS the strongest conference in football. The only sport they don’t excel in is basketball.

Due to numbers. 16 conference members vs 9 for B12.

 

[everette]

SabreHorn has it right, and has had it right for a while. The management of the Big 12 is and has been the issue. This comment, from SH on page 1, is huge:

“Right now, Clemson, FSU, GT, USC are really unhappy with there present situation;”

We’d be better off — and not have to compromise our values — if we could find a way to enhance the conference rather than depart for a conference that lacks the academic and ethical values to which we aspire.

their

 

[horninchicago]

their

Yes, Sabre Horn's extensive experience and knowledge in Texas athletics is all now totally discredited because of a misspelling.

How idoitic and uphauling.

 

[Pomspoms]

according to this layout, no doubtthe west would be the most dificult !!!

SEC west
Texas
OU
Missouri
Arkansas
Texas A & M
LSU
Ole Miss
Miss St

SEC East
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Vandy
Kentucky
S Carolina
Tennesseee


maybe regroup to north / south

I disagree.
There are 4 top teams in east and west
West. East

Texas. Bama
OU. Georgia
LSU. Auburn
A&M. Florida
Maybe the west is a little tougher

 

[HalRex]

Apparently the SEC has proposed the following:
According to their proposal, there would be four, four-team pods.

In Pod A, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky and South Carolina would be grouped, Pod B would feature Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee and Vanderbilt, Pod C would feature LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss and Texas A&M and Pod D would feature Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas.


In addition to the pods, the show proposed a nine-game conference schedule format featuring these stipulations: play the other three teams in your pod every season, play two games against each of the other pods and host every team at least once every four seasons.

 

[SabreHorn]

HR,

That will either fit really well with our future schedule or destroy it.

 

[n64ra]

Is there a second round of the SEC playoffs so all 4 pod winners advance? If not, how do they pick which two pod winners belong in the SEC conference championship game?

 

[22Horn]

Aggy really wants to be their own foot print and 'stand alone....'

such deep jealousy and president and fisher really are set against it

What do they do to keep up and earn big $$$$

 

[22Horn]

Poms, you may be correct.

I see East as Bama and at times Geo, Auburn, Fla as the strong boys in East

West as OU, Texas, LSU, Ag, and in time Ark and occasionnally one of Miss teams, but right now I would consider west to be a little stronger with first four

 

[Giovanni Jones]

Just for laughs we should schedule the other A&Ms——Kingsville, Canyon

I grew up in Canyon (it was WTSU then) … I wouldn’t mind seeing a Longhorns-Buffaloes match-up (and yes, I’m aware that they are Div. II, Lone Star Conference).

 

[Chop]

What % chance this UT + OU to the SEC actually happens?

 

[n64ra]

What % chance this UT + OU to the SEC actually happens?

Zero, per aggy

Ex-A&M prez: 'Agreement' should nix expansion

"There's this understanding among the membership -- at least it was 10 years ago -- that you don't admit a school from the same state as a member school unless that member school's OK with it," Loftin told ESPN.com on Thursday. "We talked about it from time to time among ourselves, that this was the way it was going to be, that if we had another school in Texas wanting to enter the SEC, Texas A&M would have veto power."

 

[Giovanni Jones]

What % chance this UT + OU to the SEC actually happens?

My guess is 75%*


*for entertainment purposes only

 

[mmsnake]

Get a strong big 12 commissioner and expand the big 12 with 2-4 teams with solid athletics and academics. Current commissioner can’t get anything done. Sec is overrated. Everyone rides Saban’s coattails. Espn is sec’s cnn.