UT Band Could Be There This Sat But Vote Not To Play

SabreHorn said:
Rain,

I think the "woke" part of the band should come and play the Harvard school song.

What the hell does "woke" mean anyway?
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All I know Sabre is I "woke" up some morning and saw the whole world has gone to hell and a handbasket... whatever that means.
(And is it "and" or "in"? Lol)
 
UT Horn Fan said:
Now it's gone national...
Conflict raging over "The Eyes of Texas" school song
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That's how little spoiled snowflakes and benched professional quarterbacks become relevant (and embarrass their organization, team, family, etc.). Let's all get in a circle and talk about our feelings. And then we wont come out of our rooms if we don't get our way.
I have been getting calls today about this newest b.s. and I don't think anybody on this board would like to hear what I have said about your university. Suffice it to say that the coach, the band leader and administration and others associated with that school have a lot in common with BEVO. Man did it by knife to BEVO and the rest got it by birth, I guess.
I am taking my longhorn **** to Goodwill tomorrow. I have spent my last dollar on anything related to that school. Ain't wearing any of their **** again. It's embarrassing.
 
utempire said:
From what I know and I could be wrong; railroads were built by blacks and various immigrants for the most part. Nobody can say they know for sure the exact historical context of the song I've been working on the railroad. It's also not entirely clear the meaning of the Eyes of the South and may not have racial undertones at all. Most critics of the Eyes of Texas and history in general, usually leave the whole story out like most liberals do. Unfortunately it may have been played by students at one or several minstrel shows, and we all know how smart young students are all the time.
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Asians (Chinese) built railroads.
 
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The Chinese, or Chinamen as they were called then, were much preferred over the Irish, as they drank tea instead of booze, and so didn’t get drunk and cause problem.
 
Chinstrap said:
Asians (Chinese) built railroads.
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What race built the railroads in America?
Chinese laborers made up a majority of the Central Pacific workforce that built out the transcontinental railroad east from California. The rails they laid eventually met track set down by the Union Pacific, which worked westward. On May 10, 1869, the golden spike was hammered in at Promontory, Utah.

Did the Irish built the railroads?
The labor required to build the first transcontinental railroad was extensive. ... Irishimmigrants were the primary early builders of the Central Pacific Railroad. Management of the initial railroad work was not very inspirational, and pay was not exactly high; as a result, many Irish workers walked off the job.
 
Duck Dodgers said:
The Chinese, or Chinamen as they were called then, were much preferred over the Irish, as they drank tea instead of booze, and so didn’t get drunk and cause problem.
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Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature but regardless, there were many defendants of these workers that I guess could have issues with railroads and low wages, but what in the heck does that have to do with THE EYES OF TEXAS?
 
LonghornDave said:
Did the Irish built the railroads?
The labor required to build the first transcontinental railroad was extensive. ... Irishimmigrants were the primary early builders of the Central Pacific Railroad. Management of the initial railroad work was not very inspirational, and pay was not exactly high; as a result, many Irish workers walked off the job.
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"Tarriers" they were called
 
You posters are in trouble when Dion gets back from vacation. This thread goes straight to West Mall and anyone posting on this thread owes $10.00. Don’t make me send my henchmen.
 
RainH2burntO said:
It should be stated for the record that, though it may offend our senses today, slavery was very much a part of life for many cultures, people groups and nations in days gone by. To cast our modern day, perhaps more enlightened views, arrogantly on past events and people and judge them from a scope in time within which they didnt live (or have the viewpoint advantages of) is unfair and also shows a gross misunderstanding of the realities of those times. Applying the word racist with its modern day implications to men who lived 150+ years ago in a time when things were very different is just patently wrong. Most of those men would be no more "racist" than you or I today....and you could very well have been in their shoes then. That is the problem with all of this "woke" stuff. It is hyper driven by emotion and leaves little room for context, critical analysis, or prior historical perspective.
No, I most certainly do not think there has been anything occurring at The University of Texas for 100 years now that should make any player or student uncomfortable with regards to race, and to take a few obscure facts (and they are inarguably obscure.. How do I know? Because virtually no one knew these things until now) from over 100 years ago about this song and make it this kind of an issue seems misguided, immature, counterproductive, and demonstrates a lack of emotional intelligence.
Furthermore, for people living in 2020 to vilify apparently decent men of 150+ years ago for things that were quite common and part of culture at the time....is, frankly, very shallow.
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JJ must hate all of Richard Wagners music.
 
LonghornDave said:
And the Irish.
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Wait!
I have Irish blood. Who do I need to cast my offense over this at? Let me at 'em. Wait...Did we want to build them, or did someone make us? Either way...I'm pissed. The Indian in me is already mad as hell anyway...I mean, I guess I am.. I should be angry about something, right? I mean it...
I'm not playin' around.
For real...
 
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RainH2burntO said:
Wait!
I have Irish blood. Who do I need to cast my offense over this at? Let me at 'em. Wait...Did we want to build them, or did someone make us? Either way...I'm pissed. The Indian in me is already mad as hell anyway...I mean, I guess I am.. I should be angry about something, right? I mean it...
I'm not playin' around.
For real...
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The Irish also drained swamps for canals where trains could not run. Many died. So to mark the occasion they have an all day party on St. Patrick's Day right after Mass.
https://gonola.com/things-to-do-in-new-orleans/gonola-neighborhood-guide-the-irish-channel. Today there are still bars around New Orleans with signs proclaiming "no Irish".
It isn't very hard not to find a reason to realize how much better our country is today.
Creating grievances rooted in a carnival show 12 decades ago and coupled with ignorance of the history of railroad construction is malarkey. Many of my family came from places where they were not doing well (starving and unemployed). They took jobs, often doing anything, often these jobs were dangerous. Many died young. But the future generations, attended the University of Texas and their lives were changed. It is the failure to recognize the benefits The University has paid to the descendants of immigrants to Texas (including slaves and indentured servants) that makes me sick. Disrespecting The Eyes, disrespects Texas, The University and all who have been changed by the benefits it provided to our world.
 
Apparently this theory on the history on "The Eyes of Texas" all comes from one UT African studies professor, Edmund Gordon, who made the claim that it "has racist roots."
He teaches "critical race theory"
 
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Joe Fan said:
Apparently this theory on the history on "The Eyes of Texas" all comes from one UT African studies professor, Edmund Gordon, who made the claim that it "has racist roots."
He teaches "critical race theory"
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I suspect the select group study to be published in December will undercut the prof’s theory much like what happened to the 1619 project.
 
Apparently this theory on the history on "The Eyes of Texas" all comes from one UT African studies professor, Edmund Gordon, who made the claim that it "has racist roots."
He teaches "critical race theory"
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Yeah. If he doesn't have tenure, he should be fired for smearing the reputation of the school.
 
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