UT Band Could Be There This Sat But Vote Not To Play

Phil Elliott said:
Great, Mr. Gordon. Now do the Democrat party.
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You mean the party of slavery and segregation?

The next Democratic president after the Eyes was written, W Wilson elected in 1912, amount other things, re-segregated the federal bureaucracy, and held a White House screening of Birth of a Nation.

So if the Eyes has to be cancelled, shouldn't the Democrat party be too? How can the Student Democrats be allowed to continue based on the racialist history of their own party?
 
Jacob Johnson said:
That song is mimicking a song that was used for slaves and was used by a known racist in the past. How can anyone tell African American athletes that they shouldn't care or be offended when it's origin comes from racist background.
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You need help. Seriously. Professional help. I could spend paragraphs on your posts, but a mental health professional would be more beneficial for you
 
Horn2RunAgain said:
You need help. Seriously. Professional help. I could spend paragraphs on your posts, but a mental health professional would be more beneficial for you
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The logical conclusion to JJs point of view is that the entire university should be canceled because its history is inexplicably tied to racism. Saying that eliminating The Eyes rectifies or eases the mind in spite of this is incredibly offensive.
 
Joe Fan said:
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That's all I expect. It would be great if everyone agreed that it is actually a positive/uplifting/uniting song and tradition with ZERO racist intent. Such as shame that some of these young guys have bought into a vision of the world seen only through racial lenses.
 
Orangeyman said:
,,, Such as shame that some of these young guys have bought into a vision of the world seen only through racial lenses.
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I dont think they thought this way when they signed with Texas. If they had felt that way, logic says they would have signed with a different school (everyone we sign has multiple offers/had multiple options). Assuming this is correct, then they were taught to hate Texas only after they arrived at Texas.
 
I dont think they thought this way when they signed with Texas. If they had felt that way, logic says they would have signed with a different school (everyone we sign has multiple offers/had multiple options). Assuming this is correct, then they were taught to hate Texas only after they arrived at Texas.
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Of course they didn't. They would have gone to LSU or Alabama or Georgia. Anyone of those very unracist places in our country. :rolleyes:
 
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mchammer said:
Didn’t see this posted:

Texas alum Matthew McConaughey: I say don’t change ‘The Eyes of Texas’, just change the way the eyes see
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"Adapted" from minstrel shows? Come DMN..... Do these writers actually do any research. Black students weren't even on campus in 1903. The song has NOTHING to do with Black people. It never did. Lee sought to heal the country after the war. He wasn't some comic book villain. He wasnt Skeletor. The south lost and he said its over, let's reunify and move forward.

The song has never been about discrimination or racism. Do better journalists.
 
2003TexasGrad said:
"Adapted" from minstrel shows? Come DMN..... Do these writers actually do any research. Black students weren't even on campus in 1903. The song has NOTHING to do with Black people. It never did. Lee sought to heal the country after the war. He wasn't some comic book villain. He wasnt Skeletor. The south lost and he said its over, let's reunify and move forward.

The song has never been about discrimination or racism. Do better journalists.
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Maybe a better phrase would be, “a song with roots going back to minstrel shows”? How would you say it?
 
excerpt..."The school song, adapted from early 20th-century minstrel shows, sparked heated debate earlier this year when a group of Texas players objected to standing for the tune postgame, citing the song’s racist connotation."

This crap is getting ridiculous. Every new article about this issue, goes further down the assumptive phrasing of "it's racist". The song was debuted at an opera house, not in a minstrel show. There is no way that the then Pres of UT was intending this with any racial overtones. There were no blacks at UT at the time, so no one in the audience would have interpreted it that way. The Pres of UT wasn't out in the general public saying the "The Eyes of Texas are upon you." He was speaking specifically to his students, which were an all white crowd and telling them to represent UT well. It wasn't a scare tactic. it was intended to convey that they have been entrusted with the reputation of UT and even Texas...do your best.

"journalist" these days are utter pieces of crap.
 
mchammer said:
Maybe a better phrase would be, “a song with roots going back to minstrel shows”? How would you say it?
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Even that's poorly worded. Minstrel shows were a thing in those days and many days after. You could say everything had "roots going back to minstrel shows."

Its just intellectually dishonest. Let's go graffiti BLM on the headstones of every UT student, professor and staffer who lived back then why don't we? After all, they have roots to minstrel shows.

The song isn't about Black people. It's not about racism. When it was written I guarantee they weren't thinking to themselves "F the N***** this song isn't theirs bwahahaha!"
 
2003TexasGrad said:
Even that's poorly worded. Minstrel shows were a thing in those days and many days after. You could say everything had "roots going back to minstrel shows."

Its just intellectually dishonest. Let's go graffiti BLM on the headstones of every UT student, professor and staffer who lived back then why don't we? After all, they have roots to minstrel shows.

The song isn't about Black people. It's not about racism. When it was written I guarantee they weren't thinking to themselves "F the N***** this song isn't theirs bwahahaha!"
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I agree no context was provided.
 
Anyway, on the “on the field” forum someone asked what was MM’s opinion on the matter in one of the threads after the OU game. I thought MM opinion was pretty good. Since Dems and big tech like the eyes of the state watching over you in order to cancel you, not sure why they wouldn’t love the song.
 
mchammer said:
I agree no context was provided.
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Exactly. By these idiots logic EVERYTHING was racist. Ok then, get rid of it all. Why stop with a song? Thats stupid. Really? A song is what bothers you people? Not the freaking institution itself?

But but the institution isn't racist anymore....

Exactly you fools. And guess what the song represents....

THE INSTITUTION.
 
so the band isn't going to play the song. then we don't need (or want ) a band. I think its time to give them the hard choice like the did the athletes. Do it....or turn in your uniform.
 
Yes, the band and players should have known about the song before they went to Texas, but what about the seemingly more educated "professor"? What's his excuse? Why is he still at Texas if it so racist and steeped in racism?
 
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horninchicago said:
Yes, the band and players should have known about the song before they went to Texas, but what about the seemingly more educated "professor"? What's his excuse? Why is he still at Texas if it so racist and steeped in racism?
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He's the clever one collecting a paycheck from the institution he is trying to destroy.
 
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