Trump!!!
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Clean
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Yes, the leftist brain washing that block of voters got at UT or almost any major college these days is starting to hurt. I guess Plato was right.
Trump will not be POTUS. He doesn't want to be POTUS. He wants to BUY POTUS.
If Trump wins the GOP nomination, I predict something will happen in his life and he'll have to suspend his campaign ... probably will be announced in Mid-late October.
If Trump DOESN'T get the nomination ... he'll run 3rd party.
either way, he buys HisSilentInBengHazi or ... mercy ... feeltheburning tuitionbill ... and Trump Industry is SET at a crucial time.
You wait see ... you GOP voters will not get to vote for Trump unless you write him in.
Save this post and let's see.
majorwhiteapples
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Shark can you elaborate more, is that your opinion or thoughts or is there a reason you believe this? If it is just your opinion I am not going to save your post.......
If you look at what Trump says...
- strong on immigration
- repeal obamacare
- thinks global warming is foolish
- against common core
- etc.
What is wrong with that for conservatives? Two things:
- they think he jumped ahead of the line in front of other true conservatives, and most importantly
- they think he loses against Hillary
When you ask a Trump hater what he thinks of Trump if he knew he was going to be elected president, then the animosity melts away. So, I think his conservative opposition is mostly emotional-based.
- strong on immigration
- repeal obamacare
- thinks global warming is foolish
- against common core
- etc.
What is wrong with that for conservatives? Two things:
- they think he jumped ahead of the line in front of other true conservatives, and most importantly
- they think he loses against Hillary
When you ask a Trump hater what he thinks of Trump if he knew he was going to be elected president, then the animosity melts away. So, I think his conservative opposition is mostly emotional-based.
I'm betting Trump is excited to be getting visibility for Christie, who despite his lack of popularity has the personality, verbal skills and gravitas to kick the crap out of Rubio, Trump's strongest rival.
I don't imagine the Christie endorsement will have an impact on Cruz supporters.
I don't imagine the Christie endorsement will have an impact on Cruz supporters.
Seattle Husker
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LOL. Trump just touted that when he's President he'll "open up the libel laws to sue and make a lot of money from media organizations". This guy is a clown!
He draws applause from garbage like this because his supporters blindly hate the media but are they even listening to what he's saying?
Another line: "We're gonna knock out the terrorists (sic) bigly...big, big bigly."
Seattle Husker
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Trump must think he's already sewn up the R nomination. Maybe he's right. He's now running to the center with talk about filling the posts around him with R's and D's.
I had thought he was a Trojan horse candidate in the past. But now I'm convinced that he is just an egomaniac that wants to be president. That said, I would take Trump over Sanders or Hillary. I think Trump would at least make an effort to reduce the deficit.
Seattle Husker
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Why do you think that?
He has referenced our ridiculous $19T debt on several occasions plus he is not taking large donations from special interest groups. It's obviously not a guarantee but we are speaking about likelihoods here. And its a guarantee that reducing spending is not a priority for Hillary or Sanders.
Seattle Husker
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Trump's answer in last nights debate to the budget deficit question was incoherent. Eliminate the EPA, Eliminate the Dept. of Education...ok, $78M of a $525M budget deficit taken care of. What next? "Waste, corruption and ???". They guy is a lightweight in this area. I'd argue the only reason it's part of his stump speech is because it plays to the audience. Do 4 major bankruptcies in his history look like a "fiscal conservative" to you? To me, that shows that he lives on the edge of fiscal recklessness even with his own money. How do you think he'd handle our money?
I get the Sanders fear as it seems that he's never met a social program he wouldn't want to fund.
You may be right on what Trumps intentions are ... I agree he'd be preferable to Hillary or Bernie ... but that's not saying much. I'm not convinced of his newfound conservatism. Stop supporting organizations which hold views/philosophy counter to conservatism ... then we can have an honest conversation.
I can even allow for the politics of playing both sides because "it's good business" ... but when you state support, and do so in this last presidential term ... well ... I need more than your walk to Damascus conversion. Call me one of little faith, but Don is not Paul. Maybe I need to make a run to Emmause (sp?)
SH-
I am not a Trump supporter, never have been. We will be choosing between two horrible choices - Trump or a liberal Democrat/Socialist. Between those two choices, I think Trump is more fiscally conservative candidate. I agree his policy responses have been ridiculous at best and very ambiguous. There is no ambiguity however that Hillary and Bernie will continue Obama's ridiculous deficit spending indefinitely.
I am not a Trump supporter, never have been. We will be choosing between two horrible choices - Trump or a liberal Democrat/Socialist. Between those two choices, I think Trump is more fiscally conservative candidate. I agree his policy responses have been ridiculous at best and very ambiguous. There is no ambiguity however that Hillary and Bernie will continue Obama's ridiculous deficit spending indefinitely.
Seattle Husker
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You're right. Trump has protected much of his own assets while putting his investors at risk.
If we can all agree that he's an egomaniac, why does anyone believe that he'll lookout for anyones interests but his own? IMHO, the Republican party nomination is playing a game of Russian Roulette with the POTUS role. To a much lesser extent, so are the D's with Sanders.
I abhor HRC but assume it would be a redux of Bill's policies which were fairly center of the political spectrum.
Aren't they all? Besides, how is Trump worse than Bill Clinton?
Seattle Husker
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So, you are saying Trump how demonstrated that he'll use/abuse the system to his advantage. How does this jive with the prevailing theme "at least he'll follow the law". How is bending the law to your advantage (Trump is VERY litigious) following the law?
Maybe I'm reading too much into it but I think Republicans want someone that will follow their interpretation of intent of the law (or Constitution) rather than look at how to manipulate it which clearly Trump's bankruptcies are evidence of.
Actually it is because he never provides ANY details to his plans and he is on record telling people he is liberal. Here is Trump in his own words.
BevoBeef
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I am in Shark's camp, except with a slightly different twist. Trump is not really trying to win. Trump is playing the role of a King Maker with the delegates that he wins. It is a way of unlimited campaign contributions to someone and shifting his support to that person on the debate platform in return for back-room deals. Both Cruz and Christie are acting like they realize this and have refrained from trying to attack him in order to gain his support . Refusing to be candidate after the Rep convention will not work. Something will happen within one month before the convention with Trump endorsing one of the current candidates.
MajorwhiteA :
1. He is not becoming more polished in his statements as the campaign is going on. These apparent dumb comments (e.g., the Pope may not be a Christian) are not improving in quality and will cause him to lose votes in the general election.
2. He is not specific in his policies and appears to talk "off the cuff" without any specifics. His general statements do not seem to have any specific plans behind them as if they is no concentrated thought or time put into them to make it appear he has a cohesive policy.
3. One reason Romney lost was that OB and the DNC controlled the topics through the mass media focus during the primary. A scenario about Romney was built about the bad connotations concerning Bain and related topics that destroyed his ability to become the candidate that could improve the economy. This reputation built in the primary came back to haunt Romney and his poll numbers fell just before the election. Trump is soaking up all the derogatory focus of the DNC and mass media. He is intentionally drawing the fire as if he is trying to decoy the Democratic press intentionally.
4. Trump is saving money on his campaign infrastructure. Not trying to win the Iowa caucus with a lack of grass roots manpower support is an example of his saving his money. How can you make sense of his missing an important debate? He did make money for charity instead, but that was a slap in the voters' faces. His talk is very negative and like hot air but it does not really match the low end cost of his advertising dollar. His whole persona is like he is not making a professional attempt to win the nomination. I just do not think he is as dumb as he is appearing.
5. NBR had a segment yesterday on the fact that Trump can remain the CEO of his economiic wealth and still be commander in chief. There is no law against doing that. I do not see Trump giving up legal control of all his assets to his children.
Admittedly, these are all implications. Look to his giving up the nomination at the convention. There will be a good spin put on Trump's endorsement, but there will be favors given in return for his delegates.
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Seattle Husker
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All those points are true yet they are why he's been getting support from the blue collar side of the Republican party. At this point, he has to be considered a serious contender for the White House. The conspiracy theories being advanced are worthy of Hollywood script consideration.
The real concern for us all is whether there are enough uneducated blue collar voters + 'D' hate to put Trump into the White House? If so, all the "hope and change" criticisms will be more than laughable except a Trump term I fear would have potentially drastic negative consequences.
Seattle Husker
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On another note, does anyone believe that Trump can't release any of his tax returns for the past 10-12 years because he's being audited? I didn't vote for Romney but he may be right that there is something "big" there.
Agree. Trump is not my preference - but if the choice is Trump or Hillary, I'll hold my nose and vote for Trump.
This guy is wrong.
Personally I don't have a huge problem with filing bankruptcy if a business goes on the crapper. However, it certainly undermines a candidate's claim that he's a genius of a businessman.
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