Trucker Protests

[Seattle Husker]

It seemed to be the mainstream left position - on social media, among personal friends and relatives, on the news; everywhere I looked.

We need to be careful about confusing empathy for the agenda of the BLM protesters and approval of any subsequent damage. We've all seen the newscaster that says "this was a peaceful protest until it wasn't", typically after dark. A comparison would be to nod in approval to those Trump supporters that gathered in D.C. to hear him speak (OK...great!) yet distancing oneself from those a-holes that chose to march to the Capitol Building, beat up cops and try to act on what they were encouraged to do.

 

[mb227]

We need to be careful about confusing empathy for the agenda of the BLM protesters and approval of any subsequent damage. We've all seen the newscaster that says "this was a peaceful protest until it wasn't", typically after dark. A comparison would be to nod in approval to those Trump supporters that gathered in D.C. to hear him speak (OK...great!) yet distancing oneself from those a-holes that chose to march to the Capitol Building, beat up cops and try to act on what they were encouraged to do.

You REALLY need to do some due diligence on the timeline from J6. The worst of the conduct took place WHILE Trump was still speaking quite a distance away from the Capitol Complex. That we are more than a year beyond that day and you are still spouting the nonsense, however, suggests you don't care about factual recitations...

 

[Seattle Husker]

You REALLY need to do some due diligence on the timeline from J6. The worst of the conduct took place WHILE Trump was still speaking quite a distance away from the Capitol Complex. That we are more than a year beyond that day and you are still spouting the nonsense, however, suggests you don't care about factual recitations...

Who knew the worst thing to happen on 1/6 was when the rioters first pulled down the barricades nearly a mile away from the Capitol Building. Wait...didn't you question that 144 police officers that were treated by medics and whether any "weapons" were used? One of us is missing their "due diligence" and it will only take you looking in the mirror to recognize who. The rioters hadn't even reached the Capitol steps yet when Trump's speech concluded.

 

[Monahorns]

Records rebut claims of unequal treatment of Jan. 6 rioters

Has Biden pardoned any of the BLM folks?

No. They just bailed out everyone arrested every night for months and months. But let's define our terms so we don't have to admit our own faults.

 

[Mr. Deez]

It seemed to be the mainstream left position - on social media, among personal friends and relatives, on the news; everywhere I looked.

Yeah, I wondered what rock he was under. Not every Democrat praised or rationalized the violence but a lot of liberal commentators, leaders, and media figures did.

 

[OUBubba]

Yeah, I wondered what rock he was under. Not every Democrat praised or rationalized the violence but a lot of liberal commentators, leaders, and media figures did.

 

[Garmel]

Deez is gonna kill you, Barry. lol

 

[Mr. Deez]

Deez is gonna kill you, Barry. lol

I'm not even totally sure what his point is. He's absolutely beclowning himself on this.

 

[Seattle Husker]

You REALLY need to do some due diligence on the timeline from J6. The worst of the conduct took place WHILE Trump was still speaking quite a distance away from the Capitol Complex. That we are more than a year beyond that day and you are still spouting the nonsense, however, suggests you don't care about factual recitations...

Here's an example of one of the people being held in federal detention pending his court case. Stewart Rhodes, Oath Keepers leader, was involved in the organization of the Oath Keeper activities, most importantly the guns the government is claiming they had stashed nearby with a quick reaction force ready. The funniest part of the court case is that the dude went all Sadam Hussein and used a back hoe in the backyard of his rental house and attempted to build tunnels, escape tunnels. They ultimately collapsed but I find it hard to find a corollary to any BLM protester for this story or the governments accusations. He's one of 12 being charged with seditious conspiracy. If there was a BLM protester who the government had evidence of coordinating training, armament and escape in anticipation of a gun fight and the government let them loose the argument might have more validity. Does anyone have that example? The person that burned the building in Minnesota is doing hard time. The person that shot at the police station in Minnesota turned out to be a right-wing Boogaloo boy whose case is in progress.

That_Tasha_Girl is Stewart Rhodes estranged wife. She's done him no favors in openly talking to the Feds about his plans.



And this addition with pictures. LMAO.


As of last September, 40 1/6 insurrectionists were still behind bars.

 

[mb227]

Dilweeds like you never cease to amaze...finding outliers and thinking it proves some point. You probably also believe that the group of hunters in a remote area of Canada are also somehow plotting to overthrow the little coward...

Lost in your example is that, if the guns were at his house, they were NOT in DC. If he wants to dig up his yard, so the eff what?

 

[Horn2RunAgain]

Well, if a chinese developer pays me to shut down a highway then maybe they do need to freeze my assets.

Mobile homes aren't popular in China. You're safe

 

[nashhorn]

Lost interest in that article when read the writers poo pooing about the girl getting in trouble for throwing fuel (shorts) on the burning cop car and her throwing a bat at a cop not being a big deal cause it didn’t hit the cop.

 

[OUBubba]

I'm not even totally sure what his point is. He's absolutely beclowning himself on this.

I am. Totally. I can tell a man “nice hit” after getting plowed on the field. Deez hit me hard and I got a kick out of it.

 

[OUBubba]

Lost interest in that article when read the writers poo pooing about the girl getting in trouble for throwing fuel (shorts) on the burning cop car and her throwing a bat at a cop not being a big deal cause it didn’t hit the cop.

Agree about throwing a bat but felony arson charges? Come on.

 

[theiioftx]

Trudeau Watching Old Footage Of Tiananmen Square For Ideas

 

[Mr. Deez]

I am. Totally. I can tell a man “nice hit” after getting plowed on the field. Deez hit me hard and I got a kick out of it.

You often make it easy, Coach. You rarely protect your blind side.

 

[Monahorns]

Lost in your example is that, if the guns were at his house, they were NOT in DC. If he wants to dig up his yard, so the eff what?

But the Feds charged him with sedition! That means has to be guilty of it. And a woman who is totally pissed off at him is claiming things on Twitter. Rock solid!

 

[Seattle Husker]

But the Feds charged him with sedition! That means has to be guilty of it. And a woman who is totally pissed off at him is claiming things on Twitter. Rock solid!

Nobody has claimed he's guilty but rather the evidence justifies holding him until his targeted July trial. By any rational assessment Rhodes has planned and encouraged civil war. On 1/6, that planning nearly reached "execution".

 

[Monahorns]

Nobody has claimed he's guilty but rather the evidence justifies holding him until his targeted July trial.

I don't disagree, but also haven't been paying attention.

By any rational assessment Rhodes has planned and encouraged civil war.

According to what? His involvement in 1/6 or something else?

On 1/6, that planning nearly reached "execution".

You think this guy almost caused civil war? You're funny.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Rhodes's ex-wife obviously has a massive ax to grind. Plenty of ex-wives will say their ex-husbands are abusive lunatics with small penises regardless of what the truth is. Having said that, I don't particularly care. His cause isn't my cause, and if he's being held inappropriately, he can raise that issue in court. It's not my circus, not my monkeys.

 

[Seattle Husker]

According to what? His involvement in 1/6 or something else?

He has openly advocated for militia preparation and a coming Civil War, most recently on Alex Jones' Infowars in January 2022. Per government case filings, he communicated for ~90 seconds with the leader of the column that that infiltrated the Capitol building seconds before they entered the building. What the sides are debating in court was "why" the military-style column of Oath Keepers entered the Capitol Building. Stewart Rhodes is claiming they went in to offer aid to Ashli Babbit. The timeline the government has submitted shows that Ashli Babbit wasn't shot until after the column of Oath Keepers entered the building. Keep in mind, the Oath Keepers went to great lengths to encrypt/hide their conversations and intentions. Fortunately, one of their Telegram channels was being recorded by a reporter that had been investigating the alt-right for a while.

You think this guy almost caused civil war? You're funny.

Based on the public court documents (accusations) the Oath Keepers were prepared and ready for a Civil War, to the point of staging their guns with a QRF (quick reaction force) in a nearby hotel. Rhodes himself continues to claim a civil war is coming. This isn't some random yahoo dressed in a horned-hat activity but rather a group that actively trains for conflict. They believe military conflict is inevitable and clearly had some level of plans on 1/6 that will be further vetted in court proceedings. I don't know if he had the power to cause a civil war but he and his Oath Keepers pushed us further to that precipice than we've been in >100 years.

 

[OUBubba]

I don't disagree, but also haven't been paying attention.



According to what? His involvement in 1/6 or something else?



You think this guy almost caused civil war? You're funny.

He should be detained simply because of they eye patch.

 

[Horn2RunAgain]

He has openly advocated for militia preparation and a coming Civil War, most recently on Alex Jones' Infowars in January 2022. Per government case filings, he communicated for ~90 seconds with the leader of the column that that infiltrated the Capitol building seconds before they entered the building. What the sides are debating in court was "why" the military-style column of Oath Keepers entered the Capitol Building. Stewart Rhodes is claiming they went in to offer aid to Ashli Babbit. The timeline the government has submitted shows that Ashli Babbit wasn't shot until after the column of Oath Keepers entered the building. Keep in mind, the Oath Keepers went to great lengths to encrypt/hide their conversations and intentions. Fortunately, one of their Telegram channels was being recorded by a reporter that had been investigating the alt-right for a while.



Based on the public court documents (accusations) the Oath Keepers were prepared and ready for a Civil War, to the point of staging their guns with a QRF (quick reaction force) in a nearby hotel. Rhodes himself continues to claim a civil war is coming. This isn't some random yahoo dressed in a horned-hat activity but rather a group that actively trains for conflict. They believe military conflict is inevitable and clearly had some level of plans on 1/6 that will be further vetted in court proceedings. I don't know if he had the power to cause a civil war but he and his Oath Keepers pushed us further to that precipice than we've been in >100 years.

I hear OathKeepers burned & looted buildings and killed people. Can you confirm?

 

[Seattle Husker]

I hear OathKeepers burned & looted buildings and killed people. Can you confirm?

"Killed people". I'd love to hear what BLM protesters have killed people and gotten away with it. I'm on record over and over and over that if you physically accosted a police officer or civilian, committed arson or looted a business you should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. That's not protesting but rather criminal behavior. To my knowledge the only "movement" that has killed people is the Boogaloo Boys, a single "antifa" person that shot a Proud Boy member in Portland and Kyle Rittenhouse. That "antifa" member received what they deserved at the hands of law enforcement.

Still, none of that threatens me, my lifestyle nor the future for my children as much as what happened on 1/6 and the activities surrounding it attempting to hold onto power. The Oath Keepers were part of that visible coup attempt conducted merely because one side, one candidate, couldn't accept that they lost an election. They still can't accept it which means the threat still persists. Despite the attempts to downplay 1/6, this remains a core threat to this Republic thus is deserving of the law enforcement emphasis its receiving.

 

[Horn2RunAgain]

"Killed people". I'd love to hear what BLM protesters have killed people and gotten away with it. I'm on record over and over and over that if you physically accosted a police officer or civilian, committed arson or looted a business you should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. That's not protesting but rather criminal behavior. To my knowledge the only "movement" that has killed people is the Boogaloo Boys, a single "antifa" person that shot a Proud Boy member in Portland and Kyle Rittenhouse. That "antifa" member received what they deserved at the hands of law enforcement.

Still, none of that threatens me, my lifestyle nor the future for my children as much as what happened on 1/6 and the activities surrounding it attempting to hold onto power. The Oath Keepers were part of that visible coup attempt conducted merely because one side, one candidate, couldn't accept that they lost an election. They still can't accept it which means the threat still persists. Despite the attempts to downplay 1/6, this remains a core threat to this Republic thus is deserving of the law enforcement emphasis its receiving.

I didn't mention BLM, did I.

Since ya did, a BLM organizer shot up a political site in Kentucky. Did an OathKeeper do the same somewhere?

 

[Seattle Husker]

I didn't mention BLM, did I.

Was I prescient?

Since ya did, a BLM organizer shot up a political site in Kentucky. Did an OathKeeper do the same somewhere?

And I hope that organizer is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. What they did is still not as dangerous to our Republic as the documented activities of the Oath Keepers. I've listened to the audio of the Oath Keepers and their glee as the assaulted our democracy. They may have considered it fun to threaten a constitutionally mandate transition of power process. Many of them are sitting in jail right now contemplating how fun it was to flout the law. Unfortunately, the people that very likely instigated them, that organized them, the ones with the real power will walk away free. I'm talking about those in the Willard Hotel war room that Oath Keepers were also "protecting".

The Oath Keepers did demonstrate how fragile our Republic can be if power is used irresponsibly. Honestly, we are all fortunate that everyone involved was too dumb to pull it off. They were much better at marketing and giving speeches than execution of the coup.

 

[mb227]

Apparently being in the Capitol with unpopular political beliefs warrants being removed from society without bail even as the government's case falls apart while a BLM mouthpiece can attempt to assassinate a mayoral candidate and be bonded out inside of a day.

And apparently, little cowards of a dictator believe it appropriate to verbally attack Jewish members of Parliament by claiming they are endorsing the actions of what appear to have been literal single digits out of ALL the participants in a protest. Trudeau must go...and I suspect he is about to find out that Parliament won't back his inappropriate use of the Emergencies Act.

 

[Seattle Husker]

Apparently being in the Capitol with unpopular political beliefs warrants being removed from society without bail even as the government's case falls apart while a BLM mouthpiece can attempt to assassinate a mayoral candidate and be bonded out inside of a day.

And apparently, little cowards of a dictator believe it appropriate to verbally attack Jewish members of Parliament by claiming they are endorsing the actions of what appear to have been literal single digits out of ALL the participants in a protest. Trudeau must go...and I suspect he is about to find out that Parliament won't back his inappropriate use of the Emergencies Act.

I need to give you credit that is long overdue. Your imagination of what others think when you talk on their behalf is second to none. Your strawmen are the best, bar none. Kudos! That probably makes for a poor lawyer but if you chose a second career in Hollywood or as a writer you might be able to make use of that imagination.

 

[mb227]

I need to give you credit that is long overdue. Your imagination of what others think when you talk on their behalf is second to none. Your strawmen are the best, bar none. Kudos! That probably makes for a poor lawyer but if you chose a second career in Hollywood or as a writer you might be able to make use of that imagination.

Congratulations on demonstrating that you obviously know nothing of Quintez Brown, the alleged anti-gun BLM mouthpiece who did, in fact, seek to assassinate a mayoral candidate and was, in fact, bailed out by the burn loot and murder group in his community using donated funds...a pittance of a $100K bond for having attempted to kill, not just a candidate, but a Jewish candidate. But I am sure you will join Joy Reid in again singing his praises...

Also, clearly you have not watched Trudeau's speeches from the past few days.

I should NOT be at all surprised that you would claim real events as somehow having been strawman arguments. Liberals tend to HATE facts...they scurry even faster than cockroaches when the light is shone upon them.

 

[Garmel]

Can we all agree what the government is doing is really effed up? We've put people on trial and jailed them while Pelosi continues to hide crucial video and emails from us on J6. Makes me wonder if the witnesses that are popping up the conservative sites are correct.