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horninchicago said:
Absolutely. Did it flying to DFW the other day. They said stop bugging us and lose this number. Lol

Seriously, yes. They appreciate that.
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If they don't thank you then they suck as an ATC. I don't know if the person was a DEI hire or not and I'm not going to sign up for that NR link to find out, but reading the communication transcript the communication seems awfully weak to me. I know nothing more than logging hundreds of flights in my career as a passenger, but I do know that if I were an ATC I would made it very clear to the helo AA was landing in run way 33, not 1 and they were heading towards to path of the plane. Do you see the plane means very little and there is nothing about immediate danger. "Lookout helo, the plane is landing in RW 33, change course immediately to XXXX path", seems a lot more appropriate.

I've been accused of insulting other people's intelligence before, but I'd rather overcommunicate and make sure the person understands the risks rather than have a serious accident.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Making it about DEI without at least somewhat of a causal link isn't helpful in finding the cause or in promoting the anti-DEI cause. In fact, it's counterproductive. Suppose we find out that everybody involved in this crash was a bunch of white guys who were 20-year veterans of the agency and had no preferential treatment at all but simply screwed up the night of the crash. Hard to make that about DEI, and when we try, it makes us look stupid or dishonest and reflexively anti-minority. At a time when we're starting to attract black and Hispanic voters who lean right, that isn't helpful.

And I'm not saying DEI wasn't a factor. It might have been, but I'm not going to raise the issue or get righteous about it when none of us really knows anything. That's how the Left treated Covid.
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For what it is worth, the co-pilot of the helicopter was a woman with 500 hours (1/2 of that of the pilot). That in itself will be a non-issue as long as she was performing her assigned duties.

The issue other than the controller issues (one on duty when two were the minimum requirement and failure of the controller to specify which airplane the Army was supposed to be looking out for), seems to be why the helicopter climbed above its approved flight level right before the incident. One theory is when the crew went from night vision goggles to eyesight due to the surrounding lights, they invertedly climbed 100+ feet which put them over 300 feet while the AA plane was descending from 400 feet.
 
Horn6721 said:
Am so glad to hear

So when there are close calls could it mean other pilots don't verify?
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Honestly close calls rarely happen. Nothing to be concerned about. But yes that could be a cause.
Run Pincher said:
If they don't thank you then they suck as an ATC. I don't know if the person was a DEI hire or not and I'm not going to sign up for that NR link to find out, but reading the communication transcript the communication seems awfully weak to me. I know nothing more than logging hundreds of flights in my career as a passenger, but I do know that if I were an ATC I would made it very clear to the helo AA was landing in run way 33, not 1 and they were heading towards to path of the plane. Do you see the plane means very little and there is nothing about immediate danger. "Lookout helo, the plane is landing in RW 33, change course immediately to XXXX path", seems a lot more appropriate.

I've been accused of insulting other people's intelligence before, but I'd rather overcommunicate and make sure the person understands the risks rather than have a serious accident.
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They always appreciate when we confirm clearances or instructions.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Making it about DEI without at least somewhat of a causal link isn't helpful in finding the cause or in promoting the anti-DEI cause. In fact, it's counterproductive. Suppose we find out that everybody involved in this crash was a bunch of white guys who were 20-year veterans of the agency and had no preferential treatment at all but simply screwed up the night of the crash. Hard to make that about DEI, and when we try, it makes us look stupid or dishonest and reflexively anti-minority. At a time when we're starting to attract black and Hispanic voters who lean right, that isn't helpful.

And I'm not saying DEI wasn't a factor. It might have been, but I'm not going to raise the issue or get righteous about it when none of us really knows anything. That's how the Left treated Covid.
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Cue the Twilight zone music
New "theories " are flying,
In addition to the tower being understaffed
And possibly under qualified
The number of flight hours by either pilot not all that experienced
It was suggested the helo should have had 4 crew
With one on left Not wearing night googles to watch for other aircraft. Night googles create tunnel vision so crew couldn't see all around them
Just heard that Blackhawks can be geared to fly remotely.
Time and actual facts will take care of the "theories "

I do find the witholding of female pilot name puzzling.
Prayers for all including families.
 
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