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CNN is so busy creating false narratives they sometime out themselves. Look at the headline and then the bottom line of the screen shot above.

Trump was joking. Blaming? No. He was being funny. In the original tweet Trump wrote "just kidding". The point being it didn't have any real affect on the movie. I laughed out loud when I saw the tweet. CNN gets filled with rage. What pieces of crap.
 
Monahorns said:
CNN is so busy creating false narratives they sometime out themselves. Look at the headline and then the bottom line of the screen shot above.

Trump was joking. Blaming? No. He was being funny. In the original tweet Trump wrote "just kidding". The point being it didn't have any real affect on the movie. I laughed out loud when I saw the tweet. CNN gets filled with rage. What pieces of crap.
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The media did this from the start when Trump got the nomination wrapped up. They would manipulate his stump speech to make it sound sinister. Fraudulent.
 
Joe Fan said:
More examples --
Yearly earnings of US workers exceeded 3% growth for the 16th consecutive month. The best streak under Obama for this was 3 months
From the last NFP -- Blue-collar wage growth is exceeding white-collar wage growth
Non-college grads are outperforming those with degrees
The growth in black incomes has surpassed those of whites.
The Latino jobless rate has been under 5% for 20 straight months. Prior to Trump, there had only been one month ever of sub-5% Hispanic joblessness (2006).
Trump has an approval among small business owners at a new record high of 60%. These people are the jobs' drivers. In 2017, that same study showed only a +3% net approval/disapproval rating for the president. That figure among small business owners has exploded to +20% Trump. President Trump's approval rating among business owners hits all-time high: Survey
The UMich survey of consumer sentiment hit above 95.0 -- for 30th month out of the last 35. For context, the last time that study showed such a sustained level of elevated enthusiasm was during the tech boom of the late 1990s.
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Wages for nonsupervisory employees — who make up 82% of the workforce — are rising at the fastest rate in more than a decade
Rank-and-File Workers Get Bigger Raises


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Damn JF Those facts will mess with Bubba's claim that the Trump economy has not been good for workers.
To be fair Bubba is not alone all Dem POTUS candidates and nearly all msm say the same thing. Wonder if any will walk back that claim?
 
Horn6721 said:
To be fair Bubba is not alone all Dem POTUS candidates and nearly all msm say the same thing. Wonder if any will walk back that claim?
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They reside in an another universe. Truth is inverted, or ignored. Nothing positive this potus accomplishes will ever be recognized. It's Politics Today.
 
If you think about it, Trump is basically the new boss at a company where the employees have been stealing for years.

So explain to me never Trumpers and Libs how you can’t support this guy for President.
It reminds me how Patrick Swayze had to clean house at the Double Deuce in Roadhouse. :beertoast:
 
At this point, we are trusting bad guys enough to get out of THEIR country.

I wasn't for the Iran deal, but my thoughts on the subject have changed since it was made. I also didn't know why it was bad to have a deal with Iran. Deals and dialogue are better than no dialogue. I believed that even before my shift, because without that the only thing left is war forever. You have to negotiate at some point or you are just trying to kill everyone.
 
Monahorns said:
At this point, we are trusting bad guys enough to get out of THEIR country.
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When you provide safe harbor and intentionally enable a terror group that directly attacks the United States and then refuse to turn the terror group's leader over to the US, you waive the right to say, "it's our country." In fact, they have no right to anything but an ***-whipping and for their religion and idelogy to go the way of Greek mythology. Anything short of that is gravy.

The worry I have about pulling out is that we're sending a message. You can help a terror group attack the United States and kill thousands of American civilians on American soil, and though we'll hit back when we're mad, we'll eventually get sick of fighting and go home. The sleeping giant will wake up, but he'll eventually get tired and go back to sleep. Well, don't be shocked if another bad apple relies on that lack of resolve and decides to attack us or harbors someone who wants to attack us.

Monahorns said:
I wasn't for the Iran deal, but my thoughts on the subject have changed since it was made. I also didn't know why it was bad to have a deal with Iran. Deals and dialogue are better than no dialogue. I believed that even before my shift, because without that the only thing left is war forever. You have to negotiate at some point or you are just trying to kill everyone.
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I'm always willing to talk, but you can't always negotiate. You can't negotiate unless you're dealing with an honest party who's acting in good faith. Iran isn't. However, I was indifferent about the Iran deal. It's worthless to us, because we can't trust them and have no way to enforce it short of war, which we aren't willing to wage. Does it hurt us? It can, but it doesn't have to unless we rely on it and pretend it's worth something. If Iran wants a nuclear weapon, they can get one. That was true before the deal, and it is true after the deal.
 
When you provide safe harbor and intentionally enable a terror group that directly attacks the United States and then refuse to turn the terror group's leader over to the US, you waive the right to say, "it's our country." In fact, they have no right to anything but an ***-whipping and for their religion and idelogy to go the way of Greek mythology. Anything short of that is gravy.
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I am all for killing those directly responsible for attacking the US. In the case we are talking about that was Al Qaeda. For any in the Taliban supporting Al Qaeda, I am not against them suffering the same fate. But let's be clear, the US has been in Afghanistan for 18 years, the longest active war in US history. Any Al Qaeda or Taliban involved in 9/11 are dead and have been for some time now.

As much as I dislike Islam, threatening to kill all Muslims is a recipe for more death on both sides. It also gives radical Wahhabists an easy recruitment narrative. All they have to say is the Americans plan on killing all of us, are you man enough to protect your wife, kids, and family? It isn't a radical narrative either. Think about what that says about us Americans?
 
The worry I have about pulling out is that we're sending a message. You can help a terror group attack the United States and kill thousands of American civilians on American soil, and though we'll hit back when we're mad, we'll eventually get sick of fighting and go home. The sleeping giant will wake up, but he'll eventually get tired and go back to sleep. Well, don't be shocked if another bad apple relies on that lack of resolve and decides to attack us or harbors someone who wants to attack us.
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I don't follow your logic. You are worried about pulling out of a backwards country after waging war against it for 18 years and killing many, many radicals? During that time, we didn't go hunt down the Taliban and kill them all, we fought them at the fringes pouring money into Afghanistan trying to build a liberal, secular, democracy.

So any state sponsoring terrorism against the US can expect death and destruction, and maybe the chance to get back into power in 18 years. But those people in power are not the same that sponsored the terrorism. Those guys are dead. You negotiate with the next generation of Taliban leaders.

The negotiation goes like this.

US: We agree to leave your country which allows you to take power. If you attack the US or provide cover for any who do, you will all die. Deal?

Taliban: Deal.

If they say no deal. You take out all their leadership and offer the same deal to the next group.
 
Get the f*** out. Couldn’t happen quickly enough. After reading “Outpost”, Tillman’s story and other articles on that blasted war/country it has always disgusted me our boys (and girls) still die over there.
 
Monahorns said:
But let's be clear, the US has been in Afghanistan for 18 years, the longest active war in US history. Any Al Qaeda or Taliban involved in 9/11 are dead and have been for some time now.
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The guy who currently runs the Taliban has been a leader since 1996. Involved in 9/11? Who knows? Involved in harboring Al Qaeda and protecting them? Almost for sure.

Monahorns said:
As much as I dislike Islam, threatening to kill all Muslims is a recipe for more death on both sides. It also gives radical Wahhabists an easy recruitment narrative. All they have to say is the Americans plan on killing all of us, are you man enough to protect your wife, kids, and family? It isn't a radical narrative either. Think about what that says about us Americans?
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I'm saying what the Taliban has a right to, not what I'd actually do.

Monahorns said:
So any state sponsoring terrorism against the US can expect death and destruction, and maybe the chance to get back into power in 18 years. But those people in power are not the same that sponsored the terrorism. Those guys are dead. You negotiate with the next generation of Taliban leaders.
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This is like saying that if Hitler had been killed, we would have been smart to just negotiate a deal with Herman Göring and the other Nazis. The problem with it is that if you don't put down the movement, the next generation will be no better than the previous generation.

And you grossly overestimate the severity
of this war. You judge it by Western standards and how you'd feel if it happened in the United States. By Middle Eastern, Islamic, and even Afghan standards, this war has been pretty tame. You and I would crap in our pants if the Afghan War was happening around us. The Taliban and Afghans are not. They've been at war since 1979, and much of that time was with a far more brutal adversary. War is their way of life.
 
nashhorn said:
Get the f*** out. Couldn’t happen quickly enough. After reading “Outpost”, Tillman’s story and other articles on that blasted war/country it has always disgusted me our boys (and girls) still die over there.
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That's fine. Just don't ***** if we get hit again.
 
Joe Fan said:
I've noticed you do love your Hitler analogies. This must make you very popular in Germany.
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Nothing wrong with a Hitler analogy when they actually fit. Most people who make them (especially those on the Left) don't know anything about Hitler and the Nazis. I actually do, so I can make the analogies.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Nothing wrong with a Hitler analogy when they actually fit. Most people who make them (especially those on the Left) don't know anything about Hitler and the Nazis. I actually do, so I can make the analogies.
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Given that you have volunteered yourself as a self-styled expert witness on the topic, we the people call on you to teach progressives the difference between fascist and nazi. They keep mixing the terms. This lack of accuracy is disturbing and needs to be fixed. Time to not just talk but walk.
 
Joe Fan said:
Given that you have volunteered yourself as a self-styled expert witness on the topic, we the people call on you to teach progressives the difference between fascist and nazi. They keep mixing the terms. This lack of accuracy is disturbing and needs to be fixed. Time to not just talk but walk.
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I wouldn't call myself an expert by any means. I've just read some pretty authoritative books on the subject. I've tried to argue with leftists. They don't listen and don't care to be right on the issue. It's a political cudgel for them, not a serious descriptor.
 
Mr. Deez said:
I wouldn't call myself an expert by any means. I've just read some pretty authoritative books on the subject. I've tried to argue with leftists. They don't listen and don't care to be right on the issue. It's a political cudgel for them, not a serious descriptor.
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This could be one of your life's great accomplishments. We all wish you the best of luck.
 
5X increase in crude oil production in Texas in a decade
From 1M bpd to 5.3M bpd
Pretty remarkable
Is #ThanksObama appropriate for this? Asking for a friend
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