Texas @ OU 02/28/2024

[JoeDallas]

I am bad at math tonight. That's a 24-point differential in 3-point scoring.

I just don't think you are going to win consistently against the best teams without more balance between inside shooting and 3 pointers. We shot threes 6 times, and they shot 30 of them. We set up no plays or screens for our 3 point shooters. We don't get to benefit from any inside-outside game. it goes inside and stays there. Watching the Oklahoma players, they have great confidence in the three point shot. They were missing them like crazy in the first quarter, but that didn't stop them. They knew (and the audience knew) that they would start hitting them at some point. We are basically afraid to shoot threes. If Shay or Shaylee miss one or two, they pretty much stop. I don't know if they are told not to shoot them or if they just pick up on Vic's anxiety about them and his drive to get it inside. It is not worse to miss a three than a two, and we certainly miss a lot of two's. And if you make a three, it is worth half again as much. Jennie B has the math down right. I don't have the time to check, but I bet we shoot less threes than any other highly ranked team.

 

[loyallonghorn]

Even the referee closest and trailing Madison signals she bobbled the ball. The lead referee no way could have seen it. Why didn't the trail referee did not get together with the lead referee to discuss it so that the lead referee could reverse his own call. Terrible.

 

[WCBBNUT]

 

[hornsup1986]

We can complain about being out rebounded and being 20-28 from the free throw line and yes there’s legitimacy to those arguments, but the most significant factor in the game came with 11 seconds left and the phantom travel call on Madison. If that is called correctly—not called at all—then OU has to foul and we most likely win the game. The refs screwed Texas pure and simple. The rest is nitpicking IMO.

 

[Moooooo]

So, who was that lady with the blonde hair trying to hold Vic back after that travelling call on Booker? It wasn't one of our assistant coaches.

 

[Moooooo]

We can complain about being out rebounded and being 20-28 from the free throw line and yes there’s legitimacy to those arguments, but the most significant factor in the game came with 11 seconds left and the phantom travel call on Madison. If that is called correctly—not called at all—then OU has to foul and we most likely win the game. The refs screwed Texas pure and simple. The rest is nitpicking IMO.

No, it really isn't. Don't make so many mistakes that you put yourself in a position to allow the (human) refs an opportunity to decide the outcome of the game.

 

[hornsup1986]

So, who was that lady with the blonde hair trying to hold Vic back after that travelling call on Booker? It wasn't one of our assistant coaches.

Christy Smith director of operations.

 

[hornsup1986]

No, it really isn't. Don't make so many mistakes that you put yourself in a position to allow the (human) refs an opportunity to decide the outcome of the game.

No not really. Referee actions are more consequential at critical junctures.

 

[Moooooo]

No not really. Referee actions are more consequential at critical junctures.

Get one defensive rebound in the last 45 seconds of the game and Booker's travelling call never happens.

 

[Zig72]

Christy Smith director of operations.

Trying to channel more positive vibes in this emotional post-game funk, Christy Smith is a sweetheart.

 

[brnkj]

No, it really isn't. Don't make so many mistakes that you put yourself in a position to allow the (human) refs an opportunity to decide the outcome of the game.

That was my point exactly when I said even with everything that didn't go our way, we still should have won that game... Had numerous opportunities to secure the win with simple, fundamental defensive rebounds, but instead gave OU repeated opportunities to score.

 

[Moooooo]

I listened to the post-game radio broadcast. Win or lose, home or away, typically one of our assistant coaches or Vic himself is interviewed. Didn't hear that tonight after the game.

 

[Moooooo]

That was my point exactly when I said even with everything that didn't go our way, we still should have won that game... Had numerous opportunities to secure the win with simple, fundamental defensive rebounds, but instead gave OU repeated opportunities to score.

Even our last few offensive possessions prior to the final one, we seemed to be rushing things as if we were playing from behind; did not manage the shot clock well (I don't think). Just did not have good ball movement or even any set offensive plays, so it seemed.

 

[Moooooo]

Trying to channel more positive vibes in this emotional post-game funk, Christy Smith is a sweetheart.

Does she normally sit that close to Vic on the bench? Perhaps I haven't been paying attention. I know I saw Wisdom-Hylton tonight; were both Blair and Elena on the bench tonight?

 

[brnkj]

Even our last few offensive possessions prior to the final one, we seemed to be rushing things as if we were playing from behind; did not manage the shot clock well (I don't think). Just did not have good ball movement or even any set offensive plays, so it seemed.

We looked very tentative on offense during that stretch... like nobody wanted to step up and take a shot except Booker. We seemed to be playing "not to lose" instead of playing to win.

 

[GlendaA]

Just out of curiosity, I looked up the three point attempts by top 20 teams.

Texas is dead last, 11.5/game (more than I expected!), #344th out of 349 D1 teams.
SC - 16.4/game
Ohio State - 21.3
Stanford - 21.1
Vrigina Tech - 25.8
Iowa - 28.8
USC - 21.6
UCLA - 21.7
LSU - 13.3
UConn - 19.5

Out of the top 25, LSU is the only team to attempt less than 16 three's a game. And 20 of the top 25 average at least 20 a game. Sure SC and LSU are the last couple champions, but even Staley has her women taking 5 more a game than Vic.

 

[UrsusArctos]

Even our last few offensive possessions prior to the final one, we seemed to be rushing things as if we were playing from behind; did not manage the shot clock well (I don't think). Just did not have good ball movement or even any set offensive plays, so it seemed.

Jennie B played 10 players, we basically played 7. Madi and Shaylee played all 40, Shay 37. I thought they were exhausted at the end, which led to Madi's bad shot. (I thought she got fouled, but on replay just a bad sideways shot.) We have a bench full of players we don't use.

 

[2003TexasGrad]

Didn't see the game but missed shots or rebounds isn't an excuse for the refs to get a call wrong that affects the outcome. It all counts.

 

[hornsup1986]

Get one defensive rebound in the last 45 seconds of the game and Booker's travelling call never happens.

But it did happen. We didn't get a rebound as you assert but we're still winning by 2 with 11 seconds left. The ref 's horribly incorrect call changed the trajectory of the game. It's fact. Nothing changes that. You can argue rebounds and not shooting enough three's and whatever else. In the end what mattered was that call. Referees should never put their thumbs on the scales at the end of the game to change its trajectory. But it happened tonight in Norman, Oklahoma.

 

[UrsusArctos]

Just out of curiosity, I looked up the three point attempts by top 20 teams.Texas is dead last

Yeah, we are dead last in the B12 (16 teams) as well.

 

[UrsusArctos]

Didn't see the game but missed shots or rebounds isn't an excuse for the refs to get a call wrong that affects the outcome. It all counts.

But it did happen. We didn't get a rebound as you assert but we're still winning by 2 with 11 seconds left. The ref 's horribly incorrect call changed the trajectory of the game. It's fact. Nothing changes that. You can argue rebounds and not shooting enough three's and whatever else. In the end what mattered was that call. Referees should never put their thumbs on the scales at the end of the game to change its trajectory. But it happened tonight in Norman, Oklahoma.

Yep. There are things you can control/affect like rebounding, the other teams shooting %, and there are things that you cannot control like the a refs bad call. Both are highly consequential to wins and losses. Not grabbing one stinking board at the end cost us the game, but so did the bogus traveling call. "You shouldn't put yourself in that position" just implies it's our fault they make bad calls. It's not.

 

[hornsup1986]

Yeah, we are dead last in the B12 (16 teams) as well.

It's not a secret that Vic prefers getting the ball inside against the majority of teams we play. In Monday's press conference he stressed how important it was going to be against OU. We've been pretty successful with his game plans.

 

[Moooooo]

It's not a secret that Vic prefers getting the ball inside against the majority of teams we play. In Monday's press conference he stressed how important it was going to be against OU. We've been pretty successful with his game plans.

He has also stressed time and time again that "you win with guard play".

 

[Moooooo]

Continuing to look at the box score; our points per quarter: 21, 18, 21, and 10. We definitely got stagnant in the final quarter.

Holle shot 3-4. Gonzales shot 4-8. Most of those shots were early in the game. They obviously exerted a lot of energy playing defense. Wish they could have helped out more on the offensive end.

 

[hornsup1986]

He has also stressed time and time again that "you win with guard play".

Vic stresses winning with guard play of course. There's much more to guard play than shooting the 3, though. Defense, first and foremost, is the guard play he emphasizes most.

 

[UTSUgrad]

Jennie B played 10 players, we basically played 7. Madi and Shaylee played all 40, Shay 37. I thought they were exhausted at the end, which led to Madi's bad shot. (I thought she got fouled, but on replay just a bad sideways shot.) We have a bench full of players we don't use.

I don't recall previous games in which we were stumbling around on the court like we did during those last 2 minutes. OU looked more organized. We've had some nail biters, but we don't usually look like we are mentally and physically out of it. I hope this is not a sign that we've hit a wall ... could be good that we have byes in the tournament. Even highly conditioned athletes need a head-clearing break. But first, beat BYU and send Shaylee and Hadi off the 40 in style!

 

[Moooooo]

Vic stresses winning with guard play of course. There's much more to guard play than shooting the 3, though. Defense, first and foremost, is the guard play he emphasizes most.

And, our guards allowed OU's guards to score 51 of their team's 71 points.

 

[Born in ATX]

Well this night just sucks. First the refs take the game from us with the phantom travel call. And now this.

 

[WCBBNUT]

It’s not the three. The three is not the answer. We are a top 10 scoring offense, currently at #7 overall I think. A three gets you an extra point but at a big cost. Do the math:

20 threes at 32% made (which is OU’s current percentage) gets you 19 points.

20 deuces at 51% which is our current gets you 21.

Always go for the higher percentage shot.

OU won tonight because they out rebounded us giving them extra chances. Normally we take way more shots than our opponents. And because they are high percentage shots, we usually win.

Holle and Gonzales are good at the three but they don’t rely on them because they are not great at the three.

Tonight was a tough loss. But OU scored 13 threes against West Virginia and still lost. Relying on the three isn’t the big advantage you think it is.

OU played harder both times this year. Not saying we didn’t play hard tonight - we did - but we gave them too many chances in the paint. We blew huge leads in both halves. We got out rebounded by 17. When was the last time we got out rebounded by double digits????

We’ve only lost 4 games this season. This team has more winning still to come. And we’ve got the Booker. Get BYU out of the way and then take Kansas City by the horns and bring home a trophy.

Hook ‘Em!

 

[Run Pincher]

It’s not the three. The three is not the answer. We are a top 10 scoring offense, currently at #7 overall I think. A three gets you an extra point but at a big cost. Do the math:

20 threes at 32% made (which is OU’s current percentage) gets you 19 points.

20 deuces at 51% which is our current gets you 21.

Always go for the higher percentage shot.

OU won tonight because they out rebounded us giving them extra chances. Normally we take way more shots than our opponents. And because they are high percentage shots, we usually win.

Holle and Gonzales are good at the three but they don’t rely on them because they are not great at the three.

Tonight was a tough loss. But OU scored 13 threes against West Virginia and still lost. Relying on the three isn’t the big advantage you think it is.

OU played harder both times this year. Not saying we didn’t play hard tonight - we did - but we gave them too many chances in the paint. We blew huge leads in both halves. We got out rebounded by 17. When was the last time we got out rebounded by double digits????

We’ve only lost 4 games this season. This team has more winning still to come. And we’ve got the Booker. Get BYU out of the way and then take Kansas City by the horns and bring home a trophy.

Hook ‘Em!

Texas is averaging .357 from 3, .533 from 2.

Those 20 shots get you 21.4 pts from 3, 21.3 pts from 2. But getting 3's opens up the inside and thus the 2 pt. % will go up, and vice versa. Just like the pass opens up the run and the run opens up the pass. If you're balanced and the defense can't key in on one, both percentages will go up.