Riots in Minneapolis
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Monahorns
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I don't know what will be said in court but Chauvin was using a technique that he was taught for restraining. The knee to the back is straight out of the book. It doesn't look good, but no kind of physical altercation does.
As for his plan, I don't know. Who knows? The police had been trying to get Floyd in the car for at least 15 minutes before he forcibly removed himself from the police car. I watched much of the video the officers were very nonaggressive with him when trying to get him into the car. He was high and had used a counterfeit bill to pay. Those are both illegal. The police were not going to let him walk.
I don't hold against Floyd for using counterfeit money. Our government does worse printing money all the time. But he wasn't going to convince the police of that. What was his plan? What was he trying to do besides resist arrest?
Look at this sentence. What type of Orwellian ******** is this?
Shared on Facebook and Instagram, posts include a bar graph showing “murder of blacks and whites in the US, 2013” broken down by the races of the perpetrators. While the graph itself is accurate, the way it is presented is misleading.
Fact check: Misleading bar graph presents distorted interpretation of black and white murder rates
Shared on Facebook and Instagram, posts include a bar graph showing “murder of blacks and whites in the US, 2013” broken down by the races of the perpetrators. While the graph itself is accurate, the way it is presented is misleading.
Fact check: Misleading bar graph presents distorted interpretation of black and white murder rates
The filmed death of George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man, on May 25 has ignited global protests against police brutality, specifically the disproportionate use of lethal force against black Americans.
This is not true at all after normalizing for how many crimes are committed per race.
Officer involved shooting in Nashville yesterday. White male officer and black female. NMPD quickly released body cam footage.
Nashville police camera shows shooting that kills woman, injures cop
No riots yet. Smart move to quickly release footage.
Nashville police camera shows shooting that kills woman, injures cop
No riots yet. Smart move to quickly release footage.
The proximate cause of death is having a lethal quantity of fentanyl in the system of George Floyd.
Chauvin's attorney could give an entire opening AND closing statement laying on the floor with Chauvin's knee on him in the same fashion and be perfectly fine.
Do not also forget the reality that, if Chauvin and Floyd worked together, then Chauvin KNEW about the multiple aggravated robbery charges in Harris County in addition to the MANY other arrests on felony conduct...
If the residents of M/SP do brisket, they may as well stock up, because the fire is about to be lit.
Doesn't matter, the masses have no ability whatsoever to actually understand the true stats. Even the so claimed "smart work" have no ability to dig deep and truly understand the real stats.
Here is who is prosecuting Chauvin.
Cool. A domestic terrorist supporter.
These policies/philosophies are so great! Let's take them national so everyone can reap the benefits!!! ......genius
On a separate but related note.. The same people moving to my state of Texas because they hate the results of policies in Cali come here and want to support the same type people and implement the same philosophies here.
Again...genius I say.
Maybe we should have built a wall around California to keep the residents in.
It's all Trump and those radical Conservatives' fault
OUBubba
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I’ve never said that the idiots in Portland were defensible or even not antifa.
Sheldon Cooper
100+ Posts
Seriously, who gives a **** anymore. This is Biden's America, and this is Oregon's problem. I have officially stopped caring. I'll open a go fund me account to the first federal officer who opens fire on these ********.
This goes for Seattle San Francisco LA Minneapolis New York and Austin. Dig your own graves and jump on in. it means nothing to me anymore.
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Yeah, I bet it comes down to (proximate) causation—and it’s probably a three pointer while being well guarded for the State to win on that. Could happen, but it’s an uphill battle for the State if the jurors play it straight. We’ll see.
I said this on one of these threads way back last year sometime. Let Chicago and the other big Dimocrat run cities burn. Hell, the suburbs here are seeing a seller's market as many of the dumb asses leave Chicago. Probably will just bring their stupid politics to the suburbs. Anyway, let Chicago burn, let the Chicago businesses go under. I couldn't care less. I don't live there. They got what they voted for with Mayor Beetlejuice.
Hell, maybe the morons living in Chicago might actually put forth viable conservative candidate for mayor there. Could barely type that with a straight face, but maybe enough business owners will grow tired of Dimocrat rule in Chicago.
If someone dies and an autopsy shows Covid present, that is the cause of death. Some guy with enough fentanyl in his body to kill an elephant dies of something else, not what was in his body.
Science.
Science.
Ha!Here is who is prosecuting Chauvin.
The cover of that book bears a striking resemblance to Imperial Japan’s spaghetti and meatball war flag of WW2. You know, fascism with a theocratic monarchical bent...
Oh the delicious irony. Like a hot tasty bowl of don buri at the Yokosuka shipyard on a cold day.
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In any other case, I'd predict an acquittal - certainly on any homicide charge. The causation problems are too great to be overcome at least it's Chauvin is reasonably well-represented. This isn't a normal case.
The jury will be sequestered, but there are a few things they will almost certainly know. First, voting to acquit will mean a fierce public shaming with the national media cheering it on. That could easily and adversely affect their reputations and careers. Second, your city will break out into riots that will likely cause deaths, which the national media will also cheer on. Third, there will at least be a threat that you and your family will get your asses kicked by political activists. Knowing all that makes a acquittal harder to predict.
Ordinarily I discourage friends and family members from trying to get out of jury duty. I would definitely make an exception in this case.
And none of the liberals around here will see that as a problem. Fear of reprisal for voting to acquit.
Sheldon Cooper
100+ Posts
It doesn't matter what the defense does or says, this cop is going to burn just so they don't have to see their city burn again.
I know this just like I knew OJ was going to walk. There is no justice in our system. All that matters is public opinion. Should have just let the mob have him, they are going to give him to them anyways.
I know this just like I knew OJ was going to walk. There is no justice in our system. All that matters is public opinion. Should have just let the mob have him, they are going to give him to them anyways.
OUBubba
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I mentioned fentanyl and Floyd to a doc at lunch. He laughed and said if he would have died of fentanyl overdose he would have not had the energy to yell “I can’t breathe” 20 times.
This op Ed is absolutely insane. And the author apparently went to Harvard? Talk about starting out with a preconceived outcome and then arguing a hollow argument to prove your preconceived outcome. Shameful.
"Mystal is a graduate of Harvard College and Harvard Law School, a former associate at Debevoise & Plimpton, and a lifelong New York Mets fans. One of those things is not like the others. Prior to joining The Nation, Mystal was the executive editor of Above the Law. He’s a frequent guest on MSNBC and Sirius XM. He will resist.
He can be followed @ElieNYC."
OUBubba
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He was familiar with the scenario. His point was fentanyl kills you by putting you into such a restful place that your lungs don’t respond fast enough. You don’t lay there moaning “I can’t breath” and “momma” and “they’re going to kill me”. Anyone who plays the fentanyl card highlights their bias immediately and labels themselves not a serious person going forward.
You clearly haven't seen the body cam footage. I suggest you do. It's quite telling. Floyd was exhibiting excited delirium pretty much from the get go. He was crying about not being able to breath long before he was ever put on the ground. Dude was tweaked out of his mind. And btw, if you can't breath you can't talk.
Monahorns
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Anyone who plays the fentanyl card? What the eff are you talking about? Did he or did he not have 10 times the lethal limit MEASURED SCIENTIFICALLY in his blood?
If he did, nothing your doctor friend said is worth anything. If he didn't, then I retract my statement.
Which is it Bubba?
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