Horn2RunAgain
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The financial impact is enormous. Hopefully he has had something of a gofund me or somesuch.
Prosecuting Rittenhouse Is Completely Unjust
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The financial impact is enormous. Hopefully he has had something of a gofund me or somesuch.
OUBubba
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No. I'm not watching the trial. He was there to play army. Great work.
You're a nasty person. There's no reason to be that way, checks notes, I'm done with your south pole ***. You will not engage in a reasonable manner. Good day.
I said good day!
Horn2RunAgain
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I know of someone whose family has spent a little over 200k in appeals atty fees. His case>> no DNA, no physical evidence. In the final stages, hopefully the guy goes free.
I was told one juror was asked WHY he voted to convict, the juror replied word for word, "if he's innocent he'll get off on appeal". It's amazing how stupid some people are
There's footage that disputes that.
Horn2RunAgain
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Damn, that was uncalled for
You're not watching yet you know he's going there to play army. Giggity.
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Yawn. So you want to continue to spew a narrative that you have been fed even AFTER it was shown to be false.
It is sad that so many in the nation refuse to accept reality even after the MSM narrative of a year is SHOWN time and again to have been false. You refuse to accept the EVIDENCE offered at trial by prosecution's own witnesses...I would suggest you may wish to look in a mirror before casting aspersions.
OUBubba
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The same guy who takes photo's with his AR-15 is not necessarily there to shoot someone. He's there to be a man with his firearm. It got out of hand and he had to shoot someone. I blame his mother for letting him go there and go there with a rifle. This blood is on her hands. But hey, he's free as **** to go beat up some more girls! He can support the ***** grabber while he's at it!
I dunno. The cute little medic bag strapped around his shoulder seems to run counter to a "Look at me, I'm a tough guy with a gun" theme...
I'm not saying it was a wise move to jump into the bowels of a riot and multiple acts of arson, but I don't think he wanted to shoot people, or show off that he's a "tough guy with a gun."
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OUBubba
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Playing GI Joe:
Again, I blame his mother. I have an 18 year old. You know where she gets her *** lit up by me? If she went into a **** show like that.
Prosecutors want to admit video of Kyle Rittenhouse in separate incident threatening to shoot people
Prosecutors want to admit video of Kyle Rittenhouse in separate incident threatening to shoot people
And the fact that he did not just shoot the criminal elements indiscriminately tends towards a showing that he was not there 'just to shoot people.'
An amateur with limited information might say his police cadet background, and his view of himself as a future cop or EMS guy, led him to jump into the fray of the riot/arsons and to try to stop bad things from happening. He knew there would be some really bad well-armed dudes amidst the mostly peaceful and unarmed majority, and that they could turn it into another dangerous riot at the drop of a hat. Hence, he felt a need to be armed.
It doesn't look like he "started it" with the insane man (literally just out of the asylum) who attacked him first and chased him down. It was all downhill from there.
Whether it was a wise move to jump into all this in the first place is a question outside the scope of whether he committed the crimes charged...
It doesn't look like he "started it" with the insane man (literally just out of the asylum) who attacked him first and chased him down. It was all downhill from there.
Whether it was a wise move to jump into all this in the first place is a question outside the scope of whether he committed the crimes charged...
^^^ EXACTLY THIS
Being a potentially rash or even naive 17yo does NOTHING to vitiate a belief that he was in danger at the precise moment he pulled the trigger.
And since the judge has tossed the gun charge, the gun no longer is an element of provocation as the DA sought to claim.
I would agree that, for most people, jumping into the bowels of a riot/arson spree is generally a very bad idea. I'd make exceptions for the property owners--even for them, it's a cost-benefit analysis as to whether to get involved or not.Playing GI Joe:Again, I blame his mother. I have an 18 year old. You know where she gets her *** lit up by me? If she went into a **** show like that.
Prosecutors want to admit video of Kyle Rittenhouse in separate incident threatening to shoot people
But making an unwise choice to get in there in the first place does not extinguish one's right to self defense.
True: he even chose not to fire at the guy who threw his hands up and backed away (and who didn't point a pistol at his head). That took awareness and discipline.
This is just a dumb case for leftists to plant their flag on and fight over. There are plenty of examples of trigger happy, even racist, thugs who could be pointed out as examples of some dangerous "right wingers" out there. Make no mistake: they are out there indeed--far left and far right.
Liberals support the Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment. I've got some Liberal in my core. So Liberals would look at Kyle Rittenhouse and say: "Perhaps he's not the brightest boy, but he exercised his Constitutional rights and escaped a life-threatening situation alive. And the prosecution did not prove the State's case beyond a reasonable doubt--one of the great safeguards of our liberty in this Liberal Democracy/Republic."
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Horn2RunAgain
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Dear MSNBC,
Did I parrot all the proper hot words you guys use in this case? Please advise if I missed anything
Thanks
He won't have debt for long. If he doesn't screw his life up like George Zimmerman did, he'll be able to make lots of money off of this - defamation lawsuits, conservative media opportunities, etc.
1. Very low resolution. Is anyone sure that is Kyle?
2. Did the girls identify him? Seems to me if that was real they would be all over CNN.
I don't think the prosecutor actually wants to be there. Kenosha County has a Democratic DA, and he doesn't want to get primaried, so he had to push the case. However, you'll notice that the DA is nowhere to be found even on a very high-profile case. When a politician is avoiding a chance to be on camera that should tell you something. He dropped this nasty turd sandwich in his subordinate's lap and said "good luck."
Part of me feels bad for the guy in the courtroom. I've never tried anything blatantly frivolous like he is, but I've had to try some ****** cases that I didn't want to try. It's no fun.
OUBubba
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I think you and I would agree that he's not a murderer. I think murder is a big jump here. The prosecutor overcharged in my mind. Possibly on purpose? Manslaughter? I would need to look at the varying levels but people died because he came to a riot with a rifle. He's an idiot but I blame his mom for not parenting him.
Barry, people died because they came after him, and at least some of them intended to inflict death or serious bodily injury on him. That was the main cause of their deaths, not him having a gun. Had he not had a gun, he would have gotten the crap beaten out of him or worse.
It's astounding how hard it is for you to criticize rioters.
OUBubba
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Throw the book at them, every one. I think we should treat anyone rioting like we are treating the 1/6 people.
That'll never happen, because your party (not you personally) won't let it.
And anyone that a 1/6 rioter physically attacked had every right to shoot him or her. I'm not an Ashlee Babbitt defender, but she was shot for less justifiable reasons.
3 years from now, headline in the news:
"SHERIFF KYLE RITTENHOUSE FORMS NEW ANTI-RIOT UNIT".
Organic/spontaneous protests vs. organized protests.
The former are chaotic by their nature.
For the latter, the organizers need to "police" their own and rapidly get the troublemakers our of there.
The deceased man with mental problems was seemingly going around starting sh!t with anyone who didn't ignore him. People doing stuff like that (and lighting fires) should be rapidly removed from the area by the protest leaders and turned over to the authorities. Then the legitimate / lawful protestors could exercise their rights to peaceably assemble. If you don't "police" your own crowd, look for your protest to degenerate into a sh!tshow and look for formerly sympathetic members of the public to turn against you. Fewer and fewer people are buying the media attempts to justify violent rioting and arson.
The former are chaotic by their nature.
For the latter, the organizers need to "police" their own and rapidly get the troublemakers our of there.
The deceased man with mental problems was seemingly going around starting sh!t with anyone who didn't ignore him. People doing stuff like that (and lighting fires) should be rapidly removed from the area by the protest leaders and turned over to the authorities. Then the legitimate / lawful protestors could exercise their rights to peaceably assemble. If you don't "police" your own crowd, look for your protest to degenerate into a sh!tshow and look for formerly sympathetic members of the public to turn against you. Fewer and fewer people are buying the media attempts to justify violent rioting and arson.
Yeah really. Amazingly, Binger didn't drop it all on his fat colleague, and sit back while the big man tried the entire case.
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