President Biden Accountability Thread

Death penalty vs never out of prison?
Sangre, I do see a difference here. A federal jury weighed the evidence against each of the defendants, found each guilty, and agreed that each deserved the death penalty. The death penalty is legal for federal crimes. Biden decided to override the judgment of federal prosecutors and juries - if he had done so for two or three of them, I might see the thinking. But 37 is clearly a political statement - no doubt the Constitution gives POTUS the Pardon power, but IMO Biden abused it for political impact. Just my two cents.
 
Sangre, I do see a difference here. A federal jury weighed the evidence against each of the defendants, found each guilty, and agreed that each deserved the death penalty. The death penalty is legal for federal crimes. Biden decided to override the judgment of federal prosecutors and juries - if he had done so for two or three of them, I might see the thinking. But 37 is clearly a political statement - no doubt the Constitution gives POTUS the Pardon power, but IMO Biden abused it for political impact. Just my two cents.
HHD,
I have no quarrel with your point of view, and in fact just a few years ago I would have been quite outraged myself. But in the intervening time I have considered the merits of death vs life in prison without parole, and, informed primarily by Catholic principles, I have come to the conclusion that our proper place as a society is to allow a man his natural lifespan to repent (this doesn't mean he gets out of prison), and to make what amends he can to his victims and God.

My position has undergone a thorough evolution for sure, and with respect to the prosecutors and juries involved in the death penalty decision, I hope they are understanding of Biden's action (even if it was undertaken for cynical political ends).
 
HHD,
I have no quarrel with your point of view, and in fact just a few years ago I would have been quite outraged myself. But in the intervening time I have considered the merits of death vs life in prison without parole, and, informed primarily by Catholic principles, I have come to the conclusion that our proper place as a society is to allow a man his natural lifespan to repent (this doesn't mean he gets out of prison), and to make what amends he can to his victims and God.

My position has undergone a thorough evolution for sure, and with respect to the prosecutors and juries involved in the death penalty decision, I hope they are understanding of Biden's action (even if it was undertaken for cynical political ends).
I grok what you’re saying as long as the prisoner pays in full for all expenses of incarceration. Work with pay in prison. Refusal to work would mean execution. We can’t afford it with all the federal debt.
 
I have come to the conclusion that our proper place as a society is to allow a man his natural lifespan to repent (this doesn't mean he gets out of prison), and to make what amends he can to his victims and God.

I had never thought of the first point. It is merciful. The death penalty for murder isn't somehow anti-Christian though. God institutes it in Genesis.

The second point would be another good reason for life imprisonment. However, victims don't receive any restitution in criminal cases. The state enacts justice as if they suffered the injustice. I am for significant change to the justice system so that all restitution is aimed at helping the victims.
 
The second point would be another good reason for life imprisonment. However, victims don't receive any restitution in criminal cases. The state enacts justice as if they suffered the injustice. I am for significant change to the justice system so that all restitution is aimed at helping the victims.

I have no problem with greater restitution, but the state still needs to imprison violent offenders to protect the public.
 
WTH is going on?? A second Super Hornet had to evade a missile fired from the USS Gettysburg.
 

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