President Biden Accountability Thread

This is kinda interesting. Apparently, Biden and Harris are at war with each other over the election. He is telling people that he would have won, even after the debate performance and basically taking a dump on Harris. She's trying to keep him quiet, because he's damaging her future. They really don't get it.

1. Biden is a friggin' idiot. After that debate performance, he was screwed. There was no saving him, and if he had stayed on as the nominee, it would have been a total rout. He would have lost every state that wasn't lopsidedly blue, and Dems probably would have lost 3 or 4 more Senate seats and had a much smaller minority in the House.

2. The political climate massively favored the GOP. Inflation is a presidency-killer. It screws almost everybody, and stopping it isn't enough. Only the passage of time and economic and wage growth will get people over it. It was going to be tough for any Democrat to win with it. In addition, Democrats from 2020 - 2023 took nutty positions on issues that were very easy to attack. Being for chaos on the border, indifferent to violent crime, and supporting dudes in girls dressing rooms isn't just being a little out of touch. It's completely lunacy that will make people choose almost anything else, and national Democrats just don't understand that.

3. Harris was a crappy candidate, but only a better candidate who could sufficiently distance himself from national Democratic politics could have won. Maybe Gov. Andy Besear (KY), Josh Shapiro (PA), or Tony Evers (WI). None of the obvious ones the national party likes such as Newsom or Whitmer would have won. Way too weird and close to the national Democratic stain to pull it off.

4. Harris has been exposed as a crappy candidate, so her future in national politics is over. We now know how far screwing around with Willie Brown can get someone. It's pretty far, but it has its limits. Could she win a congressional race in a lopsidedly blue district in California? Perhaps. Maybe she'll try to succeed Nancy Pelosi. That's pretty much the extent of her future options. I don't think she can win statewide in California with the jungle primary. Some other Democrat would beat her, and she's too liberal to attract enough Republican votes to make up for it.

 
Biden is a friggin' idiot. After that debate performance, he was screwed. There was no saving him, and if he had stayed on as the nominee, it would have been a total rout.
And everybody recognized that except Biden himself. The Dem leadership recognized it, and they made the best of a hopeless situation by moving on - and I suspect that almost all of them knew Kamala couldn't win. But moving on at least saved them some seats in the House and Senate.
 
3. Harris was a crappy candidate, but only a better candidate who could sufficiently distance himself from national Democratic politics could have won. Maybe Gov. Andy Besear (KY), Josh Shapiro (PA), or Tony Evers (WI). None of the obvious ones the national party likes such as Newsom or Whitmer would have won. Way too weird and close to the national Democratic stain to pull it off.

RFK Jr. whom they kept off the ballot
 
RFK Jr. whom they kept off the ballot

I don't think he could have won. He has taken too many goofy positions on the environment and other issues. Trump downplayed that when he endorsed him, but if he had been the nominee, Trump would have run wild with that stuff.

And unlike Harris, he would have had little money. Most big Democratic donors would have stayed out of the election, and some would have backed Trump.
 
I don't think he could have won. He has taken too many goofy positions on the environment and other issues. Trump downplayed that when he endorsed him, but if he had been the nominee, Trump would have run wild with that stuff.

And unlike Harris, he would have had little money. Most big Democratic donors would have stayed out of the election, and some would have backed Trump.

He had more grass roots support than any of the other candidates you listed. Never said he could beat Trump.
 
He had more grass roots support than any of the other candidates you listed. Never said he could beat Trump.

That's true, but grassroots support doesn't translate into electoral success. AOC and Bernie Sanders have a lot of grassroots support, but they'd get shellacked in a general election.
 
That's true, but grassroots support doesn't translate into electoral success. AOC and Bernie Sanders have a lot of grassroots support, but they'd get shellacked in a general election.

RFK Jr's appeal was much wider than theirs. Also, Sanders would have won the 2016 nomination without all the manipulation by the DNC. That is what Hilary's emails showed. AOC has never even tried to get the nomination so that isn't a good comparison.
 

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