OTHER GAMES

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OSU looked good against Penn State last night. I think they run the table and get to a playoff spot.

At this point, for the final 4, I'd have:

OSU
OU
Alabama if they win out and beat GA in the SEC game (but I don't see them going if they lose. They would be a 4 seed with 2 losses, and would play GA again in the first round, which is both pointless as they just played and they just lost, and bad for ratings).
GA if they win out of course, and probably if they lose in anything but a blowout to the Sec West team.

Maybe Cincy - don't know who else they play, but will need to avoid some upset loss as the lure of the playoffs fills their heads.
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I’d expect Ohio State to be in a real dog fight against both Michigan and Michigan State. If they run the table, they’re a shoe in. I think I’d take Michigan State as the top Northern team this year. But we’ll see.
 
Yeah, good gutty win by them yesterday against UM - they were down 30-14 at one point in the 3rd and looked dead, then stormed back to get 2 x TD and 2PT cons to tie, then win with a late TD and 2 defensivive stops.

You'd think they would be harder for OSU than UM, who OSU owns like an old mop.

In other news, how that Miss State loss is hurting the Ags. Without that loss, they are probably top 5, and in control of going to the SEC game and with a win the playoffs. Now they are having to hope against hope that Alabama loses a second game.
 
We have a great RB. Michigan State has a great RB coupled with a very good OL, and a very good QB, and a solid D.

IMHO. Thus far, this year the B1G looks like the best conference by a mile. It’s different year-to-year, of course, with the SEC looking like the best during many recent years.
 
I may get a detail wrong, but this is approximately what happened. In the first half, the Steelers had fourth down outside the 10 yard line with, I think, the first down marker at about the one. So, a long way to go for the first down, but an easy chip shot field goal. They line up for the field goal, but fake it with a direct snap to the kicker who is going to try to pass for the first down or the TD. He can't find anybody open and drifts toward the sideline where he is hammered by one of the defenders and has to leave for the rest of the game with a concussion. Problem is, the Steelers do not have a back up field goal kicker, so when they finally score in the second half to come within one point of tying the game, they have to go for two, even after a holding penalty puts them back at the 13. The try is no good, and then they have to bring in a nobody to kick off, and he kicks off out of bounds giving Cleveland great starting field position. You want to talk about a stupid coaching decision with disastrous consequences. There you go. :) . . .UPDATE--later in the game, still trailing by 1, Pittsburgh has to go for the TD on fourth and goal from the 2 (still no FG kicker). It takes a miraculous catch, but they make it. Then, they have to go for 2 (still no kicker), and it's no good. :) . . . Steelers win anyway because Browns can't score again.
 
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stanhin said:
I may get a detail wrong, but this is approximately what happened. In the first half, the Steelers had fourth down outside the 10 yard line with, I think, the first down marker at about the one. So, a long way to go for the first down, but an easy chip shot field goal. They line up for the field goal, but fake it with a direct snap to the kicker who is going to try to pass for the first down or the TD. He can't find anybody open and drifts toward the sideline where he is hammered by one of the defenders and has to leave for the rest of the game with a concussion. Problem is, the Steelers do not have a back up field goal kicker, so when they finally score in the second half to come within one point of tying the game, they have to go for two, even after a holding penalty puts them back at the 13. The try is no good, and then they have to bring in a nobody to kick off, and he kicks off out of bounds giving Cleveland great starting field position. You want to talk about a stupid coaching decision with disastrous consequences. There you go. :) . . .UPDATE--later in the game, still trailing by 1, Pittsburgh has to go for the TD on fourth and goal from the 2 (still no FG kicker). It takes a miraculous catch, but they make it. Then, they have to go for 2 (still no kicker), and it's no good. :) . . . Steelers win anyway because Browns can't score again.
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Something I was curious about but not so much as to go research rules...the hit on the kicker came after he had gotten rid of the ball AND after the defender had taken a couple of steps. Had that been a designated QB, we likely see a flag, even accounting for being out of the pocket, and if he had been a punter, we likely see a flag for roughing the kicker.

Setting aside the absurdity of drop kicking from near the sideline, had it been a drop kick, might we have seen a flag on the play since it WAS still behind the line of scrimmage?

I had no other real interest in the game since it was not a contest pick for me, but did see it on RedZone shortly after the play occurred.
 
Problem is, the Steelers do not have a back up field goal kicker, so when they finally score in the second half to come within one point of tying the game, they have to go for two, even after a holding penalty puts them back at the 13
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Were the K and P the same guy so they had to go for it on all the 4th downs too?
 
The punter never kicked anything but punts before, not even in college. But no, the punter could still punt.

Talk about the true specialist...
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I know it's different, but that surprises me he couldn't even try the FG from the 2 yard line. Remember about a decade ago when Wes Welker kicked an extra point (back when it was from a shorter distance)?
 
Statalyzer said:
I know it's different, but that surprises me he couldn't even try the FG from the 2 yard line. Remember about a decade ago when Wes Welker kicked an extra point (back when it was from a shorter distance)?
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The key was that he HAD experience kicking, having previously kicked something like a 45-50 yarder in high school as I recall...

If the punter had no experience at kicking, the issue could have produced MORE than just the one lost point in the PAT!
 
Watched the Louisiana game last night. They snatched victory from the jaws of defeat. Wondering how a football program with their record and even a ranking this year is unable to put fans in the stands. The stadium looked virtually empty.
 
Olehornfan said:
Wondering how a football program with their record and even a ranking this year is unable to put fans in the stands.
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They are a commuter school and it was Thursday night. Everyone from Jennings to Breaux Bridge, Houma to Eunice bleeds purple and gold. It's doubtful most of them knew USL was playing. Besides, it was cold last night.
 
11/6

KSU v KU - who cares. KU stinks, but KSU has struggled, so the Jayhawks might keep it within striking distance.

Okla State at WV - the former Mullet escapes a trap game. The Pokes have a tendency to play up or down to the opponent's level, coming away with narrow victories. Probably more of the same.

#12 Baylor at TCU - it will be interesting to see if the Frog D collapses against a potent Baylor O, now that Patterson is gone. They're just not the same without the sweaty guy on the sidelines. BU wins.

#5 aOSU at Nebraska - another B1G butt-whoopin is in store for Scott Frost and his hapless Huskers.

#3 Michigan State at Purdue - the Boilers will play rough and tough, and make the Spartans earn it, but earn it they will. MSU wins.

#21 Wisconsin at Rutgers - Badgers roll, then they can hit the Bleecker Street bars after the game and show the Big City folks how to really drink.

Illinois at #20 Minnesota - Bielema could make it close and even pull off the upset. I'm not confident at all in Minnesota's ability to put this one away.

Penn State at Maryland - the lions finally match up with a team they practically can't lose to.

Indiana at #7 Michigan - Big Blue bounces back. They just barely lost to mighty MSU last week. This is arguably a playoff caliber team (marginally).

#19 NC State at Florida State - another exhibition of how badly FSU sucks these days.

Missouri at #1 Georgia - Georgia is gunning for the best team of the decade. Missouri is helpless to stop the Dawgs tomorrow.

#13 Auburn at #14 aTm - two pretty similar teams, each with a good defense and pretty solid all around, with spotty QB play. Will aTm's recent QB turnaround (sort-of) continue, or will AU's D stifle them. Hard fought game. I'll take AU, but aTm ain't bad (don't like them, but they ain't bad). This could be the closest thing to a headliner game in a fairly weak week.

#17 Miss State at Arkansas - the Pirate better watch out. Look for the Hogs to post an upset. I hope the Pirate pulls it out, but Fayetteville will be a real snake pit.

LSU at #2 Alabama - this would have been the headliner game in years past. The Tigers have fallen into the swamp, and with no Big Ed to coach them to fake cramps to slow the other team's O down, Alabama will roll.

Florida at South Carolina - probably Florida. Mullen is on the way out, but UF out-talents So. Carolina. Florida licks the Cocks tomorrow.

Liberty at Ole Miss - Kiffin lights up the scoreboard. This Liberty team isn't bad, and they'll put up some points of their own. But the Rebs win handily.

#4 Oregon at Washington - Can't see the Dogs pulling an upset here.

USC at Ariz State - look for a tight one in the desert. These are both pretty good teams that have disappointed in some big games.

Cal at Arizona - Cal beats down an awful Arizona team. That should brighten up Sabre's day tomorrow.

#24 San Diego State at Hawaii - This team is too good for the Bows to take down, even at home.

SMU at Memphis - Good chance for Dykes and the Ponies to score a W vs one of the better programs in their conference. Many eyes are on Dykes...

Idaho State at #15 BYU - see Chicken Poop AD of the Week thread...

#25 Pitt at Duke - Pitt's shown they're a good team. Pitt's QB, Pickett, is a great scrambler who can throw. He really runs the show for Pitt, and runs it well.

#9 Wake Forest at UNC - the ACC's surprising top team heads into Mack's backyard. Wake's got the firepower. I'll root for Mack.

Ga Tech at Miami - Manny's boys will beat them good.

Navy at #10 Notre Dame - in year's past, this would be a trap game. Navy's football team has declined so much that it will take a miracle to even keep it close.

Army v Air Force (Arlington, TX) - interesting matchup of two pretty good service academy teams. Want to see some option football run by players who really give a flip. This could be your game. Air Force should be favored, but not by much.
 
U of I got an early pick and are driving into the red zone with some power running. Bielema is trying to develop a power football team. Like his Arkansas teams with those huge linemen and power rushing attack. While others move to the spread and high flying offenses, Bielema goes for the basics.

On Edit— TD Illinois. 7-0.
 
Ironically, Air Force’s aerial game looks pretty awful early on. A couple of lame duck short incomplete passes.

Well, Air Force’s D looks fast and swarming.
 
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UNC QB Sam Howell bursts into the endzone, running through and over Wake’s defenders. Howell is a load to tackle. He looked kinda like Sam. Ugly uniforms there Mack—stick with the traditional light blue. They look like a high school team with a low athletic budget.

UNC 7
Wake 3

The Tarheels better step up their pass rush or Hartman will pick them apart.

On edit—and that’s what he did.

WF 10
UNC 7

I’m still a bit skeptical of Wake in the top 10, but Hartman is really good, and they can block. The ACC is weak. This could be Wake’s big year.
 
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It continues to amaze me how accurate these qbs can be when given just one extra second. I can only imagine what CT, or Card for that matter, would give for some time in the pocket. Even on quick outs he is often a split second from getting creamed.
 
nashhorn said:
It continues to amaze me how accurate these qbs can be when given just one extra second. I can only imagine what CT, or Card for that matter, would give for some time in the pocket. Even on quick outs he is often a split second from getting creamed.
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Yep.

Hartman is very good.

Wake’s blockers give him time to throw. Wake’s OL is quite good and they play together well as a unit.
 
Well, if you like defense, you'll like the Air Force vs. Army game. 0-0 at halftime. USAFA has 88 yards total offense, Army 119. Defenses are both playing very well. Army had a long pass play and got into FG range, but missed wide right. Ten points might win this one.
 
Air Force might want to find a QB. The Falcons are not really running or throwing well. Fast defense though.
 
Nebraska is putting up a fight. Long TD pass and now they stop the Bucks. N ball. Under two minutes left in the half.

Ohio St 17
Neb 10

Husker ball.
 
Hartman is really lighting it up. 3 TD passes and 31 points in the first half. Wake is the only team in the game to score over 35 points in every game.

Hartman sure is good, but importantly, he sure does have plenty of time to stand in the pocket and throw.

Nick Tabacca is the Wake OL coach. He’s been there 8 years.
 
Agree on Hartman. He looks solid
31-27 WF against tar heels. Early in third
Actually both opposing quarterbacks looks pretty good it is now 38-27

Can't help but think that Texas can beat this undefeated Wake Forest team
 
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