Next man/woman up ! or should I say OUT !.....

[brnkj]

Welp, It looks like some on here are going to be whinnying for years to come in wbb and mbb because I don't see Karen or Shaka not being the coaches next year. A lot of wishful thinking.

Which one will you be? I've seen you speak one way then the other. Just asking for clarity.

 

[BBV_Horn]

I respectfully disagree. While I do think Shaka has underperformed, there have been some extenuating circumstances (injuries, etc) that have hindered the men's team this year. I do NOT think he's the answer for our men's program, but he just may get a pass into another year of his contract.

Karen, on the other hand, has shown that she can NOT coach up her players or compete for a conference championship. Five HS All-Americans still on her roster, four of which were Top 10 recruits and one which is arguably the best freshman in the conference, and she still can't even put a product on the floor that can maintain a Top 25 ranking. Yup... a team with Top 10 talent without a ranking. Go figure.

Losses to Hawaii (in a three way tie for 2nd place in Big West with a 15-14 overall record) and a narrow win over UNT (12th place in Conference USA) stand out even more than the embarrassing losses to Arizona and Baylor. Yeah, we barely beat Stanford... and they just lost to Oregon by 30+. Oh... and let's not forget that loss to LAST PLACE Kansas.

If not for the fact that we claimed 3rd place (two games behind 2nd and SIX games out of 1st) in the Big 12 with that stellar 11-7 conference record, we would not be in the NCAA tournament. Other than the Stanford win, I don't see anything on our season resume that deserves a bid.

Folks are always so quick to make excuses about Baylor having so much more talent, but how about looking at what TCU has done this season and compare their talent level to ours. Pebley and her staff have coached their players up, while the UT staff has FAILED ours tremendously. The contract is up after this season, and it's time for KA to pack up and get gone.

Don’t forget that the Women’s team started out with a ton of injuries...just saying...
So don’t just let Shaka off the hook for that!

 

[Bobcat]

Welp, It looks like some on here are going to be whinnying for years to come in wbb and mbb because I don't see Karen or Shaka not being the coaches next year. A lot of wishful thinking.

Then that would mean that CDC and The University of Texas are okay with mediocrity. If that's the case, it means they don't care and everything CDC said about being Top 10 programs was nothing but lip service.... It's out of our hands...

 

[Jacob Johnson]

Still hard to believe we have watched the seniors play there last game as a longhorn. Now hopefully Aston does not get her contact renewed and Texas finds a new head coach.

 

[Jacob Johnson]

NOT CANCELLED....only family/staff/team can attend...games are still on...just with no fans...

No the games have been cancelled indefinitely. There will be no big 12 tournament or ncaa tournament. The athletes for both men's and womens programs are already on there way back to Austin

 

[brnkj]

Don’t forget that the Women’s team started out with a ton of injuries...just saying...
So don’t just let Shaka off the hook for that!

What SIGNIFICANT injuries did the women's team start out with? Joyner, Charli, Sug, Celeste, Lashaan, and Jada played in EVERY game... JoAnne only missed the second TCU game.

 

[Moooooo]

Agree. What infuriates me is the thought that Karen Aston could possibly be the coach at THE university of Texas beyond this ridiculous season. Corona may be a serious health threat but if it saved ANYbody's job, that's utter bullshyt.

Wow.

People across the world are getting sick, and many are dying. But, you're thinking about how this deadly virus could result in indirectly saving someone's job and it "infuriates" YOU ? That has to be the most selfish and insensitive thing I've read today. Kudos. You never fail to come through on this message board.

No surprise as to who has "liked" your post. SMFH

 

[Moooooo]

I said you were demeaning and antagonistic...if I were diagnosing you, it would be arrogant and narcissistic. So you can keep referring to me as passive-aggressive henceforth, and I'll just call you arrogant-narcissistic instead of Mooo.

Bring it. I'm not changing my posting style for you. Guess I'll call you "snowflake" or "wallflower". Which do you prefer?

 

[UTSUgrad]

Get a grip, people. We are in the middle of a major global public health crisis. If you want to know how bad this could be, Google the 1918 Spanish flu. Epidemic disease does not care who coaches. We should all hope that there is a basketball season in 2020-2021 and that we all are here to watch it.

 

[kurupt]

Which one will you be? I've seen you speak one way then the other. Just asking for clarity.

I've stated over and over again that I think it's time for a change. The problem is that what I Think is ultimately irrelevant in what CDC is going to do. I've also stated numerous times that his handling of Angela Kelly who was in the same exact situation as Aston but had an even worse year gives us a pretty good indication of what he's going to do.

 

[UTSUgrad]

I'm as annoyed as any fan by our inconsistent play and declining national reputation. One thing I think about is ... just what dark cloud hovered over the 2017-19 recruiting and coaching period? Why did an entire class fail? Destiny, Rellah, Sedona, Chasity, Coach Tiffany ... all failed to meet expectations for various reasons. Was there a major miscalculation, lack of attention, unforseen dysfunction among them all? It seems strange to me that not one of these individuals became a valued contributor at Texas. We don't yet know if they will succeed elsewhere, with the exception of Chasity at Kentucky. We can rant all we want about player development, coaching, et al., ... just seems like bad karma that all were disappointments. Sometimes basketball life is unfair ... (Don't forget to use hand sanitizer. )

 

[Moooooo]

As usual, you desperately try to throw the kitchen sink, hoping that something/anything will stick. You don't know Mulkey and you don't know me, so you have ZERO firsthand knowledge about anything other than what you have created in your own warped deluded mind.

Oh, we ALL know Mulkey.

This is one of my favorites. Hope you enjoy it if it doesn't make you sick to your stomach. It tells us exactly who your "friend" Mulkey is . . .

Coach who had Griner stay in the closet encourages fans to punch Baylor naysayers

Coach who had Brittney Griner stay in the closet encourages fans to punch Baylor naysayers
Kim Mulkey thinks Baylor culture is fine for women

Baylor Univ. women’s basketball coach Kim Mulkey isn’t happy with how the culture at Baylor has been portrayed of late. That culture includes the cover-up of a highly publicized sexual assault by a football player and now a lawsuit alleging at least 52 rapes by 31 football players over four years.

Mulkey is having none of the chatter.

“If somebody around you and they ever say, ‘I will never send my daughter to Baylor,’ you knock them right in the face,” Mulkey told fans in a post-game speech on Saturday.

Mulkey also claimed that Baylor is “the best damned school in America.” US News & World Report ranks Baylor No. 71, making it not even one of the top two schools in Texas.

It’s at the same time surprising and predictable, coming from Mulkey. Brittney Griner wrote about the atmosphere of fear Mulkey creates for LGBT athletes, allegedly pushing Griner to stay in the closet while she was there. Emily Nkosi wrote about the atmosphere as well, wishing she had done something about it while she was at Baylor.

Until recently, Baylor had a policy banning homosexuality.

Mulkey expressed regret about her comment.

The fact that Mulkey wants people to punch anyone who says the atmosphere at Baylor is anything less than wonderful for women is, no matter how you look at it, very sad.

For a lot of LGBT people — and now many people concerned about the atmosphere for women on Mulkey’s team — that doesn’t begin to cover the environment of fear she has allegedly helped create (and now dismiss) at Baylor.

 

[Moooooo]

I've stated over and over again that I think it's time for a change. The problem is that what I Think is ultimately irrelevant in what CDC is going to do. I've also stated numerous times that his handling of Angela Kelly who was in the same exact situation as Aston but had an even worse year gives us a pretty good indication of what he's going to do.

You and I typically see things similarly.

I've stated before that I don't think Karen wants to continue being a head coach. So, there might not be a decision for CDC to make. We'll see.

I would not compare her contract expiration situation similar to Angela Kelly, who I believe still had 1-2 years remaining when Plonsky extended her by a few more years despite very subpar seasons at Texas (way worse than Aston) . But, I would more closely compare her situation to that of former softball head coach, Connie Clark, who CDC did not renew and just let her contract expire after the final season.

 

[kurupt]

You and I typically see things similarly.

I've stated before that I don't think Karen wants to continue being a head coach. So, there might not be a decision for CDC to make. We'll see.

I would not compare her contract expiration situation similar to Angela Kelly, who I believe still had 1-2 years remaining when Plonsky extended her by a few more years despite very subpar seasons at Texas (way worse than Aston) . But, I would more closely compare her situation to that of former softball head coach, Connie Clark, who CDC did not renew and just let her contract expire after the final season.

You may be right on a Kelly. It looks as if she actually got a pay raise.

 

[Bucksgal]

Wow.

People across the world are getting sick, and many are dying. But, you're thinking about how this deadly virus could result in indirectly saving someone's job and it "infuriates" YOU ? That has to be the most selfish and insensitive thing I've read today. Kudos. You never fail to come through on this message board.

No surprise as to who has "liked" your post. SMFH

Oops, there he goes again....

 

[Bucksgal]

Bring it. I'm not changing my posting style for you. Guess I'll call you "snowflake" or "wallflower". Which do you prefer?

Let's see...I said you were demeaning, then you got upset and threw out snowflake and wallflower. You do get the irony, don't you. LMAO!

 

[Moooooo]

Let's see...I said you were demeaning, then you got upset and threw out snowflake and wallflower. You do get the irony, don't you. LMAO!

Wow, your selective memory is in full gear this morning. You chose to omit several exchanges in between those remarks you're listing. The only irony here is what a hypocrite you are.

You stated a lot more than "demeaning". Don't tell me you forgot what you dished out to me BEFORE I replied to you. And, now you're playing the victim? You seem to like to dish it out, but can't take what's thrown back your way.

I know you'll try to spin things again, but try not to let the facts (listed in chronological order below) hit you where it hurts:

Wednesday post by you:
Mooo is always so antagonistic and demeaning

Wednesday post by me:
I've learned to deal with your passive-aggressive posting style.

Thursday post by me:
Hello passive-aggressive poster.

Thursday post by you:
I said you were demeaning and antagonistic...if I were diagnosing you, it would be arrogant and narcissistic. So you can keep referring to me as passive-aggressive henceforth, and I'll just call you arrogant-narcissistic instead of Mooo.

Thursday post by me:
I'm not changing my posting style for you. Guess I'll call you "snowflake" or "wallflower". Which do you prefer?

 

[Moooooo]

Oops, there he goes again....

I know, right? Replying to a post on a public discussion board, and stating an opinion that it was selfish and insensitive. By all means, alert the church elders.

 

[brnkj]

I've stated before that I don't think Karen wants to continue being a head coach. So, there might not be a decision for CDC to make. We'll see.

I'm curious as to how you arrived at that conclusion. It seems that only Karen herself, someone very close to her, or one who is deeply invested inside the WBB program would be able to say that.

Again, just curious...

 

[kurupt]

I'm curious as to how you arrived at that conclusion. It seems that only Karen herself, someone very close to her, or one who is deeply invested inside the WBB program would be able to say that.

Again, just curious...

Agreed. I’m not buying that.

 

[zztx1]

I am a big fan of Coach Aston. In earlier years, injuries hurt the playoff runs. This year, the transfers hurt her. She still does well in recruiting but the package often does not come together with bigs and guards. Losing Mays and Thompson set her back. I hated the athletics budget cuts that got rid of Fran Harris and the fan outreach. Aston is a tough coach and she is very demanding -- not too different from Mulkey. Almost no freshmen are ready to play in this league but they do not want to wait or they get promises from the other coaches. Most transfers out have not done well in other places but it is hard to convince them to trust the process.

The last big name, Coach G, could not recruit Texas at all. If Aston can get us to the tourney and hire one or two excellent assistants, I think we would be in better shape than throwing darts at a big name. I am a man and I do not want a male coach for the program. CoVid 19 lets CDC give her another year. Get to the tourney and go three rounds and everyone will be happy again. The Coach G years were horrible.

 

[brnkj]

There's that "new" mystery minion again. As if...
FOH

 

[HnH]

The last big name, Coach G, could not recruit Texas at all. If Aston can get us to the tourney and hire one or two excellent assistants, I think we would be in better shape than throwing darts at a big name. I am a man and I do not want a male coach for the program. CoVid 19 lets CDC give her another year. Get to the tourney and go three rounds and everyone will be happy again. The Coach G years were horrible.

Okay, trying to sift through all this and pick only the most important battles ...

"If Aston can get us to the tourney and hire one or two excellent assistants"

Uh, she **barely** was gonna get this team to the tourney, despite having 4 seniors of whom 3 where ranked #2, #6 and #7 in their respective classes, plus a sophomore who was #2 in her class.

Do you honestly think she will fare better with next year's team, without all those experienced and talented seniors? Do you honestly think she's capable of taking a less talented and less experienced team "three rounds" in the tourney (that would mean Elite 8) (edit: or maybe you mean win 2 games and lose the 3rd)?

What indication has she given that she is capable of hiring excellent assistant coaches who can provide the type of knowledge and expertise she clearly lacks?

I wanted Karen to succeed as much as anyone, and I believed in her for a good while, but no. Just no. She doesn't have the stuff.

 

[WCBBNUT]

Silver lining: Baylor ended its season with a loss.

Well it’s been fun folks. See you next year!

 

[brnkj]

Okay, trying to sift through all this and pick only the most important battles ...

"If Aston can get us to the tourney and hire one or two excellent assistants"

Uh, she **barely** was gonna get this team to the tourney, despite having 4 seniors of whom 3 where ranked #2, #6 and #7 in their respective classes, plus a sophomore who was #2 in her class.

Do you honestly think she will fare better with next year's team, without all those experienced and talented seniors? Do you honestly think she's capable of taking a less talented and less experienced team "three rounds" in the tourney (that would mean Elite 8) (edit: or maybe you mean win 2 games and lose the 3rd)?

What indication has she given that she is capable of hiring excellent assistant coaches who can provide the type of knowledge and expertise she clearly lacks?

I wanted Karen to succeed as much as anyone, and I believed in her for a good while, but no. Just no. She doesn't have the stuff.

She HAD some very good assistants but...

 

[Moooooo]

Happy Saturday everyone!

Texas athletes, coaches come to grips with stoppage, all wonder what’s next | Hookem.com

What about men’s basketball coach Shaka Smart’s status? He could not be reached Friday. What about Aston, who’s in the final year of her contract?

“I’m anticipating being the coach at the University of Texas,” Aston said. “The time will come when I’ll sit down with (Del Conte) and we’ll talk about the future of my program, my staff, but this isn’t the right time.”

Aston paused and noted, “Things that we think are important are on the back burner right now.”

 

[kurupt]

Happy Saturday everyone!

Texas athletes, coaches come to grips with stoppage, all wonder what’s next | Hookem.com

What about men’s basketball coach Shaka Smart’s status? He could not be reached Friday. What about Aston, who’s in the final year of her contract?

“I’m anticipating being the coach at the University of Texas,” Aston said. “The time will come when I’ll sit down with (Del Conte) and we’ll talk about the future of my program, my staff, but this isn’t the right time.”

Aston paused and noted, “Things that we think are important are on the back burner right now.”

Like I said, there’s going to be some disappointed people

 

[brnkj]

Like I said, there’s going to be some disappointed people

Well, one thing is for sure... speaking for myself I definitely couldn't be MORE disappointed in the program than I already am. If CDC keeps her, a person who can't even keep us in the top 25 to 35 with the type of talent she had, then he really doesn't give a ****.

 

[HnH]

Happy Saturday everyone!

Texas athletes, coaches come to grips with stoppage, all wonder what’s next | Hookem.com

What about men’s basketball coach Shaka Smart’s status? He could not be reached Friday. What about Aston, who’s in the final year of her contract?

“I’m anticipating being the coach at the University of Texas,” Aston said. “The time will come when I’ll sit down with (Del Conte) and we’ll talk about the future of my program, my staff, but this isn’t the right time.”

Aston paused and noted, “Things that we think are important are on the back burner right now.”

Well, this would certainly seem to undermine the hypothesis that she doesn't want to continue coaching.

This could mean different things. It could simply mean that CDC has been keeping it all close to the vest -- which is exactly what a lot of ADs do in a situation where they plan to make a change after the season. We can't know for sure until we see what happens.

 

[kurupt]

Well, this would certainly seem to undermine the hypothesis that she doesn't want to continue coaching.

This could mean different things. It could simply mean that CDC has been keeping it all close to the vest -- which is exactly what a lot of ADs do in a situation where they plan to make a change after the season. We can't know for sure until we see what happens.

If you’re a coach worried about what the AD might do and about not getting another contract I don’t think you use the words anticipating or my program.