Perjury...its a helluva crime
Kavanaugh's SC Confirmation Hearings
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I missed the Sunday shows. Did Avenatti continue whinning that his whacked out accuser is not getting questioned by the FBI?
It appears Whitehouse outsmarted himself by trying to make the July1 date on BK's calendar as proof of the "assault" date. First the dude's house listed is a townhouse. The accuser said it was a single family home.
And one of the guys listed on BK's calendar was Garrett , a guy she said she dated. So far she has not "remembered "that a guy she was or had dated had been there.It is unlikely she would not remember the name of a guy she was or had dated.
Someone pointed out her BFF was only 13 in 82. So the accuser just ran out of a house leaving her 13 y o BFF with 4 dudes, 2 of whom tried to assault the accuser?
In spite of logic and lack of any fact with the accuser's story I am concerned the FBI will do a hatchet job> Why were the Dems so insistent on a FBI investigation?
It appears Whitehouse outsmarted himself by trying to make the July1 date on BK's calendar as proof of the "assault" date. First the dude's house listed is a townhouse. The accuser said it was a single family home.
And one of the guys listed on BK's calendar was Garrett , a guy she said she dated. So far she has not "remembered "that a guy she was or had dated had been there.It is unlikely she would not remember the name of a guy she was or had dated.
Someone pointed out her BFF was only 13 in 82. So the accuser just ran out of a house leaving her 13 y o BFF with 4 dudes, 2 of whom tried to assault the accuser?
In spite of logic and lack of any fact with the accuser's story I am concerned the FBI will do a hatchet job> Why were the Dems so insistent on a FBI investigation?
4th_floor
Dude, where's my laptop?
Sorry, my mistake. I was thinking RGB was confirmed in 95. Amazing how you can think something is true and it's not.....
Regarding your claim that RGB and Kagan were too clean to smear. Who says a smear has to be true? If it's true it's not a smear. Republicans could have made up false charges, just like the democrats did with Kavenaugh. Maybe RGB sexually harassed a junior attorney while at the ACLU. Kagen had baggage since she participated in the lie that was Obamacare. Again, you could find someone in her past who was willing to lie for money or just because they didn't like her.
So, yes, the behavior of the dems, especially Feinswein, is despicable.
I think that’s DB Cooper on the far right.Sometimes a picture, or meme, can do more to capture a moment than 10,000 words
I guess knowing your American literature is a necessary precedent for this one
Hey, he’s mocking that disabled reporter again.
Sometimes a picture, or meme, can do more to capture a moment than 10,000 words
I guess knowing your American literature is a necessary precedent for this one
I didn't see that you had already posted this. It really does speak volumes. As the political Left reminds us on an almost hourly basis, America has a less-than-stellar racial history. Part of that history was that when white women were discovered getting it on with black dudes, they were afraid of how society would judge them for it. So they lied about it and claimed the black dude(s) raped or otherwise sexually assaulted them even though they knew that was effectively a death sentence for a black guy who had done nothing wrong other than get in a relationship with someone of the wrong color.
Yep, through dishonesty they ensured the almost certain death of another human being just because they were embarrassed and ashamed that they screwed around with him. They knew they could do this, because they knew they would be believed regardless of the evidence.
And this is the gender that should always be believed. They would never lie or even get something wrong.
Of course, the lesson is that we shouldn't believe or disbelieve a gender. We should believe or disbelieve individuals on the merits of their accusations and/or denials of accusations. Were some white women actually raped by black men? I'm sure they were, but there was an automatic "believe the woman" mentality back then, and it no doubt led to injustice. Likewise, a "believe the woman" mentality will lead to injustice today.
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Joe Fan
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The general spectacle of women lying under oath while giving direct testimony is still going on. The majority of wrongful convictions overturned by DNA/science are rape cases. Most of those convictions were obtained via eyewitness testimony, usually the victim. However, I concede it is a difficult argument to make in public, especially in a politicized setting. Nonetheless, it is there to be made if anyone is brave enough.
Joe Fan
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Forced to be frank, Diane probably has earned her blue ADA/handicapped parking pass. But sort of frightening to visualize her behind the wheel.
Joe Fan
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Turns out CNN was coordinating with them as well.
They were waiting with a live feed in an elevator where Flake was about to be accosted by a protester.
They took the feed live
Anyone surprised by this?
These people have no soul, nothing is too low for them. From the Illinois Times:
Joe Fan
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Polling shows female voters less likely to vote for Claire McCaskill because of her opposition to Kavanaugh
Overall, this one gives it as --
Hawley 48
McCaskill 46%
Still within MOE
https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...18297/MOScout+Weekly+Poll-+Statewide+9.29.pdf
Survey conducted September 26 through September 27, 2018.
1,555 likely 2018 General Election voters participated in the survey. Survey weighted to match expected turnout demographics for the 2018 General Election. Margin of Error is +/ - 2.5%
Overall, this one gives it as --
Hawley 48
McCaskill 46%
Still within MOE
https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...18297/MOScout+Weekly+Poll-+Statewide+9.29.pdf
Survey conducted September 26 through September 27, 2018.
1,555 likely 2018 General Election voters participated in the survey. Survey weighted to match expected turnout demographics for the 2018 General Election. Margin of Error is +/ - 2.5%
Joe Fan
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Joe Fan
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Rachel Mitchell's concluding 5-page memo takes Ford's claims apart
Outside counsel for Ford hearing says no 'reasonable prosecutor' would bring charges against Kavanaugh
She says no "reasonable prosecutor" would bring criminal charges against the judge. Noting the hearing was a job interview, not a trial, she wrote, "a 'he said, she said' case is incredibly difficult to prove. But this case is even weaker than that." While Ford said she was "100%" certain Kavanaugh assaulted her, Ford was unable to offer a consistent account on descriptive elements of the night in the early 1980s that she alleges the incident occurred. Ford's claim was not corroborated by anyone she identified as attending that party, and Ford was still inconsistent in more recent recollections, including her interactions with the WAPO, which first identified her publicly. At the end, Mitchell adds "the activities of congressional Democrats and Dr. Ford's attorneys likely affected Dr. Ford's account."
Outside counsel for Ford hearing says no 'reasonable prosecutor' would bring charges against Kavanaugh
She says no "reasonable prosecutor" would bring criminal charges against the judge. Noting the hearing was a job interview, not a trial, she wrote, "a 'he said, she said' case is incredibly difficult to prove. But this case is even weaker than that." While Ford said she was "100%" certain Kavanaugh assaulted her, Ford was unable to offer a consistent account on descriptive elements of the night in the early 1980s that she alleges the incident occurred. Ford's claim was not corroborated by anyone she identified as attending that party, and Ford was still inconsistent in more recent recollections, including her interactions with the WAPO, which first identified her publicly. At the end, Mitchell adds "the activities of congressional Democrats and Dr. Ford's attorneys likely affected Dr. Ford's account."
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Joe Fan
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As much as some people criticized her for being too nice this makes it clear she did her job in a non partisan way.
This is pretty powerful from a legal standpoint. No this isn't a court of law but Her points about testimony changing and the influence the attorneys and the Dems is pretty telling.
This is pretty powerful from a legal standpoint. No this isn't a court of law but Her points about testimony changing and the influence the attorneys and the Dems is pretty telling.
In the Trump era, they have been going downhill. Raw partisanship is becoming a higher priority than quality. I think the firing of Kevin Williamson was a turning point.
Joe Fan
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Had she been given 2 hours straight to question Ford, she would have completely undone her. Ford's story has way too many contradictions. I would go so far to say it would have easy for any experienced trial attorney to do. And she could have even done it in "a nice way" to avoid some of the inevitable criticisms.
I used to do jury trials. Because of the depos, you could usually tell at what point a female witness on cross-examination was going to start crying. And, as long as it was a factual inquiry not involving some tragedy, juries in those days tended to see the start of tears as an indication the witness had been caught in a lie and would thus discredit the rest of her testimony. Timing was the real key. I dont know if this still works today though. Times have changed.
Clean
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Two days into the FBI investigation and the Dems are all over the media already whining that the investigation is a sham because a week isn't long enough, etc. etc.
I heard on the radio the FBI interviewed Debbie Ramirez over the weekend. That means they're not focusing on Ford's assault accusations. They're doing a general background check.
I heard on the radio the FBI interviewed Debbie Ramirez over the weekend. That means they're not focusing on Ford's assault accusations. They're doing a general background check.
Joe Fan
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Here is Harvad Law grad Michael Ginsberg arguing that Ford’s lawyers violated multiple DC Bar association rules and also made materially false statements to the Senate Judiciary Committee in order to delay investigation of their client’s false story.
Why There's A Good Case For Sanctioning Christine Ford’s Lawyers
Why There's A Good Case For Sanctioning Christine Ford’s Lawyers
Musburger1
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Look, it doesn’t matter that Kavanaugh is legally off the hook, or even that Ford lied. Politically, the Republicans are in a no win situation.
A former Yale basketball player came forward and stated Kavanaugh was a heavy drinker and acted belligerently when drinking. This contradicts his testimony and gives possible credence to woman #2 who stated he was drunk and waved his dick in her face. The political issue now becomes Kavanaugh’s testimony of not being a drunk and not being an aggressive drunk has been challenged by a former male colleague.
No matter what the Republicans decide now, they are screwed as the issue will be kept alive until the November election. Nobody cares about Ford anymore. It’s all about “like a virgin” Kavanaugh.
A former Yale basketball player came forward and stated Kavanaugh was a heavy drinker and acted belligerently when drinking. This contradicts his testimony and gives possible credence to woman #2 who stated he was drunk and waved his dick in her face. The political issue now becomes Kavanaugh’s testimony of not being a drunk and not being an aggressive drunk has been challenged by a former male colleague.
No matter what the Republicans decide now, they are screwed as the issue will be kept alive until the November election. Nobody cares about Ford anymore. It’s all about “like a virgin” Kavanaugh.
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