Its Sarah Palin

good point, Prodigal.

I have to admit, i am in an either/or kind of mindframe this morning!

Got to give it to McCain. He made an interesting choice. We'll see if it is the right one for the GOP this fall.
 
I am an independent and will not vote for either candidate because Obama is completely without substantive experience and McCain is completely arrogant.

However, I have to laugh about the people who say Biden will chew her up in a debate. Debating is a completely different skill set from voting in the Senate.

Obama (who has almost no qualifications to be President other than he gives nice speeches) has been quoted by most news services as doing poorer than Hillary in the debates even though she is said to be a so-so speaker.

McCain, who gives terrible speeches, is said to be a better debater than Obama.

The Obama people will have to be very careful how they handle the VP debate. The expectations will be low for her in the debate, so if she comes anywhere near being equal to what he says, then Republicans win. If Biden goes after her, he looks mean-spirited and brings up issues about why Obama didn't take Hillary.

Presidential and VP debates are not true debates anyway, they are about who can communicate sound-bites best.

Last rant: other than taking us into a war like Bush (I was against it), the President has very little ability to make change in the country.

If Obama is voted in, he will swing to the center, just like all presidents do. Don't believe me? Bill Clinton was one of the best REPUBLICAN Presidents of the last few presidencies (NAFTA, welfare reform). The country did well, because the economy was doing well which presidents have very little control over other than ability to screw things up.
 
I believe that the Democrats are scrambling now.

Not that they are afraid of her, but of how she is not an insider and her Energy ideas/plans are rock solid.

Two of the biggest issues on the table are Iraq and Oil prices. I think the Repbulicans just landed a nice right hook!!!
 
I seriously can't foresee women voting for this ticket based ONLY on the fact the VP is woman. Right-wing, pro-life women would vote for McCain anyway or stay home (so he may gain some of these), but Hilary supporters don't want a woman in office with an anti-woman agenda.

I've had moments of flirting with voting for McCain. No more. I find this pick insulting.
 
The sole reason you pick a VP candidate is to improve in areas that you are perceived as weak.

Obama's selection of Biden shows his lack of experience, both in general and in foreign policy matters. He loses some of his points for getting someone who is not for change, but that's a good trade off to make because he desparately needed someone who can advise him (see Bush/Cheney) on foreign affairs, at least from the general public's standpoint.

McCain appears to be an old white man who doesn't give off any sense of enthusiam. He had to pick someone younger that wasn't old and white. He picks a young woman taking care of both of those problems. He either picks up big points or loses some for getting someone who truly hasn't been a part of the Washington politics. He loses points in the experience category, which has been discussed ad nauseum thus far on this thread.

As a Republican who was not at all excited about McCain, her speech at least gave a shot of excitement into his campaign. McCain has to be careful with this, but he needs to hit Obama on the fact that he preaches change and picks Biden who has been in the Senate for 35 years and ran for the Presidency 20 years ago.

In conclusion, I don't want to say this is the best pick McCain could have made or that it will guarantee him victory, but its better than KBH or someone like that because she's Washington politics, from Bush's home state and is old, three things McCain is trying to stay away from.
 
The Vogue cover brings up something - some of you are already ridiculing her for being a beauty contest runner-up. So does Obama really want to go down that road? After all, isn't the new feminism the idea that you can be glamorous and smart at the same time? Do the dems really want to go down the road of using this against her? That could get SERIOUSLY interesting.
 
She is not going to appeal to the staunch Senator Clinton voters, she is going to appeal to the Soccer moms that allowed President Clinton to get elected. This demographic is not very party centric. In the past 16 years or so they have floated from one candidate to another.

She will appeal to the swing voters that want new blood in Washington.

Just my early thoughts.
 
I became aware of Palin months ago when I was reading an article about potential running mates. I thought she sounded perfect then and she's an even better choice now that HRC was snubbed. Granted she doesn't have a great deal of experience, but I'd rather have inexperience at VP than POTUS. However, she does have more executive experience than all other candidates combined and she's been very effective and off the charts popular during her time in office.

Women make up 54% of the voters in this country and a significant majority of those were leaning toward BHO before this choice. That's a huge voting block that she has an opportunity to appeal to and with so many swing states looking like close races this could put McCain over the top. In addition, her husband is a union member and she was a union member in a previous job which will appeal to many voters in the important rust belt swing states.

I think it was a brilliant choice. It remains to be seen whether she can handle the situation, but it definitely gives McCain the best shot at the White House.
 
That logic is so flawed. A woman is in charge of her own body, and can make the CHOICE to have unprotected sex. A woman is not in charge of the body of the baby she wishes to have the choice to terminate.
 
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