LongestHorn
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POTUS quotes from radical cleric. Moar!
Impeachment
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Joe Fan
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Nancy Pelosi says she “knew” the contents of the president’s call with Ukraine before the transcript was released (on 60 Minutes)
How did this happen?
Seems like all of the president’s calls with foreign leaders are being spied on by his political opponents. This makes what Nixon did looks like childsplay
How did this happen?
Seems like all of the president’s calls with foreign leaders are being spied on by his political opponents. This makes what Nixon did looks like childsplay
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Did you REALLY expect a leftie to parse something? I believe the TDS removes all ability of them to think in any sort of rational manner...
Joe Fan
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I dont think the claim about the fracture is far off. And I am not sure what we are supposed to due with this quarter of the adult population of the country which is insane.
Idiocracy is coming I fear.
Seattle Husker
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Why even invoke the Civil War? It only encourages bile like mb227's post above.
This is the problem. There is NO line that is unacceptable to cross for Trump and his supporters will continue to hold everyone BUT the current POTUS accountable. It's this inability to say "that is NOT acceptable" that gives Trump license to solicit help from Foreign Governments for his personal political gain. He wasn't representing America's interests but rather his own in the conversation with Zelensky.
Joe Fan
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Is everyone at least on the same page now that this "whistleblower complaint" was not written by one person but rather by the Democrats and a string of lawyers?
That much is obvious, right?
It is written not so much as a complaint about purported corruption but rather more of a political document aimed at destroying Trump.
Here is what Fred Fleitz (ex CIA, ex-NSA) wrote. Fleitz pointed out that he has a lot of experience with transcribing presidential phone calls, and the whistleblower’s complaint does not ring true
That much is obvious, right?
It is written not so much as a complaint about purported corruption but rather more of a political document aimed at destroying Trump.
Here is what Fred Fleitz (ex CIA, ex-NSA) wrote. Fleitz pointed out that he has a lot of experience with transcribing presidential phone calls, and the whistleblower’s complaint does not ring true
This document looks as if this leaker had outside help, possibly from congressional members or staff
And " looks more like something a “law professor” would write.
“It appears likely to me that this so-called whistleblower was pursuing a political agenda,”
https://nypost.com/2019/09/26/forme...wer-how-could-this-be-an-intelligence-matter/And " looks more like something a “law professor” would write.
“It appears likely to me that this so-called whistleblower was pursuing a political agenda,”
Seattle Husker
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It's ALWAYS about the accuser, never about what the accused did. We have a transcript in which the POTUS asks for "a favor" (a political favor) immediately after Zelinsky raises their need for more Javelin missiles. Without any other information, that appears to be an abuse of power.
The next step is to understand why Trump ordered the aid to Ukraine to be withheld, days before the call.
First reason: Due to fears of corruption in Ukraine. Answer: then there better be evidence of immediate efforts to address this.
Second reason: EU needs to contribute more. Answer: We should have evidence of an immediate discussion with the EU using the Ukraine aid as leverage.
What happens if no evidence of either exists? Then both reasons were hogwash and he was leveraging aid for his personal political benefit.
Joe Fan
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LongestHorn
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Complaint is suspiciously thoughtful and well written. It must be rejected!
What else you got?
What else you got?
Nice ad hominem there...never mind that the analogy was absolutely spot-on. The Country IS fractured and grows more so every single day, led by the gun-grabbing, tax-and-spend left that wants to have open borders to let in people never properly vetted much less be afforded programs that the various jurisdictions cannot afford. Or did you MISS the sad state of affairs out West?
The transcript did NOT show what the left-tards tried to claim it did. So instead they want to hang their hat on a hearsay document that is NOT supported by those who were actually PRESENT.
The left has NO viable candidates so they would rather DESTROY the Country and, ultimately, take from the haves to fund the have-nots. The left is fiddling as the Country burns, with the fires having been set BY the left.
Joe Fan
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That is all they got
Let me think, now what was it Thomas Jefferson said about ‘revolution’?
So you didn’t like the choice of words, Civil War didn’t suit, but the meaning was clear and did not mean a physical war for crying out loud.
I think the left is guilty of so much corruption over the last 10 years they literally went ape **** over an outsider getting a hold of the reins with the potential of their exposure, and are therefore desperately trying to oust him. Have since before inauguration. No SH, I have no linky, it’s just mho.
So you didn’t like the choice of words, Civil War didn’t suit, but the meaning was clear and did not mean a physical war for crying out loud.
I think the left is guilty of so much corruption over the last 10 years they literally went ape **** over an outsider getting a hold of the reins with the potential of their exposure, and are therefore desperately trying to oust him. Have since before inauguration. No SH, I have no linky, it’s just mho.
Clean
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Yep, it's a deep state ambush.
Did you hear John Brennan calling for more whistleblowers to come forward? That must mean the Dems are working with other leakers and Trump-hating deep-staters. Look for more of this in the days to come.
If you think that the House hasn't gotten anything done for the American people since the Dems retook it, wait 'til you see how little gets done in the next year.
Joe Fan
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Ron Paul asks "Impeachment…or CIA Coup?"
Impeachment…or CIA Coup?
" .... Democrats, who spent more than two years convinced that “Russiagate” would enable them to remove Trump from office only to have their hopes dashed by the Mueller Report, now believe they have their smoking gun in this phone call.
It this about politics? Yes. But there may be more to it than that.
It may appear that the Democratic Party, furious over Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss, is the driving force behind this ongoing attempt to remove Donald Trump from office, but at every turn we see the fingerprints of the CIA and its allies in the US deep state...."
It this about politics? Yes. But there may be more to it than that.
It may appear that the Democratic Party, furious over Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss, is the driving force behind this ongoing attempt to remove Donald Trump from office, but at every turn we see the fingerprints of the CIA and its allies in the US deep state...."
Impeachment…or CIA Coup?
Joe Fan
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Not only that but the attys for the "whistle blower" says the 60 Minutes report was "fake news."
Whistleblower's attorney says '60 Minutes' misinterpreted letter in federal protection report
Joe Fan
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Not only that but the US and Ukraine already have a “Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters,” signed at Kiev in 1998 and ratified by the US Senate in 2000.
The Treaty is self-executing. It provides for a broad range of cooperation in criminal matters. Mutual assistance available under the Treaty includes: taking of testimony or statements of persons; providing documents, records, and articles of evidence; serving documents; locating or identifying persons; transferring persons in custody for testimony or other purposes; executing requests for searches and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to restraint, confiscation, forfeiture of assets, restitution, and collection of fines; and any other form of assistance not prohibited by the laws of the requested state…
The Treaty is self-executing. It provides for a broad range of cooperation in criminal matters. Mutual assistance available under the Treaty includes: taking of testimony or statements of persons; providing documents, records, and articles of evidence; serving documents; locating or identifying persons; transferring persons in custody for testimony or other purposes; executing requests for searches and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to restraint, confiscation, forfeiture of assets, restitution, and collection of fines; and any other form of assistance not prohibited by the laws of the requested state…
Joe Fan
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Schiff also, of course, has ties to a Ukrainian Arms Dealer - lol.
Igor Pasternak has held at least two different fundraisers for Schiff, as well as connections to George Soros. Small world, eh? Pasternak was also reportedly in and around the Ukraine at the time Hunter was appointed to the board of the gas company
All just more coincidence?
ttps://twitter.com/correctthemedia/status/843882120716140544
Igor Pasternak has held at least two different fundraisers for Schiff, as well as connections to George Soros. Small world, eh? Pasternak was also reportedly in and around the Ukraine at the time Hunter was appointed to the board of the gas company
All just more coincidence?
ttps://twitter.com/correctthemedia/status/843882120716140544
Seattle Husker
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Your post was a not-so-veiled threat coming from someone in the legal profession, someone who should know better.
I didn't attack you but the content of the threatening post, which was bile.
Better not said, but which side called Trump a treasonous weasel for 3 years?
Which side called Trump a traitor for 3 years? Which side called Trump’s election illegitimate (note Hillary just said this a few days ago)?
And to top it off, ENOUGH WITH THE CRITICISM OF BILE! Bile plays a critical role in the digestion process. Thanks.
If you really believe that was a 'veiled threat' then you really should not ever be outside without a metric phucton of bubble wrap...and you REALLY need to have a guardian appointed to handle your affairs since you are clearly without the capacity to understand anything around you that might require the simplest of thought.
Of course, the irony, lost on you, is that the mere mention of a gun has you wetting yourself (figuratively if not literally)...my guess is your vote goes to the fake Mexican.
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