Horns vs Bears thread

Chop said:
Great post. Mandatory reading for the 1/5 or so of our fanbase who seems to constantly think the sky has fallen. We won't know without time.

Here are some FACTS:

Head coach--------------------First year----Nat'l Championships

Darrell Royal-Texas------------6-4-1---------------3
John McKay-USC----------------4-6-----------------4
Woody Hayes-Ohio St---------4-3-2--------------5
Bear Bryant-Alabama----------5-4-1--------------6



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A bit off topic, but...
Another interesting tidbit about the 4 coaches above is that they were all military veterans.
Royal - US Army Air Corps
McKay - US Army Air Corps - B29 tailgunner
Hayes - USN - commanded a destroyer escort & a coastal patrol ship*
Bryant - USN

* I bet that man ran a "tight" ship
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The coaches you mentioned above started their positions over 60 years ago. I'LL pass on the wisdom
 
Horn2RunAgain said:
The coaches you mentioned above started their positions over 60 years ago. I'LL pass on the wisdom
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Tucker, Saban, and Fickell all had similarly slow starts, and they’re all still coaching Top 10 or Top 5 teams.

Will Sark be another Saban or McKay, or will he be another Herman or Mackovic? The jury’s still out. We just don’t know yet.
 
Chop said:
Tucker, Saban, and Fickell all had similarly slow starts, and they’re all still coaching Top 10 or Top 5 teams.

Will Sark be another Saban or McKay, or will he be another Herman or Mackovic? The jury’s still out. We just don’t know yet.
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My jury came back and ruled Seven Win Steve won't cut it here. If you dig suspense, then enjoy the roller coaster ride for the next 30 months
 
Watched first half again, our defense was good but those drops on offense killed us, period. The number of defenders waiting for BR was amazing.
 
Horn2RunAgain said:
My jury came back and ruled Seven Win Steve won't cut it here. If you dig suspense, then enjoy the roller coaster ride for the next 30 months
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I betcha 7 win steve turns into 10 plus win season steve starting in '23 then playoff steve starting the next season.
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
Vol Horn 4 Life said:
You are right, Card was just borderline 5 star and only the #2 qb in the class.

I still ask how can recruiting rankings always be wrong for us?

According to 247 we have the most talent in the conference combining the last 5 years. We have beaten OU 4 of the past 5 years. Only Bama and Georgia have out recruited us and Clemson would be close. Its not recruiting. We have the talent to play better than this and the team is regressing not getting better.

Big XII composite rankings the last 5 years for Texas.

2nd
1st
1st
1st
1st

But keep telling me we just need to recruit better.
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we aren’t getting the top offensive and defensive lineman in these classes. Just a bunch of safeties, receivers, rb’s and qb’s. This next class looks promising but they aren’t going to be able to really make a difference for two years and we still need at LEAST 2-3 top offensive linemen in this class for it to be considered well rounded, not even considering it a successfull yet, won’t know if it’s a good class for 2-3 more years. And to really have a good chance at turning this around need another class right behind it with more top offensive and defensive lineman in it.

to truly turn this ship around that’s what it’s going to take and 2-3 years.
 
Horn2RunAgain said:
Seven Win Steve
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Naaaah, it's just Slow Start Steve as far as his tenure at UT goes.

Now, if we don't eventually turn things around in our 2nd half play, the wise-crackers may start calling him "Sorry Second Half Steve", and it would be hard for me to refute that. Keep the faith though, he'll turn it around. It's just his first year.
 
Mack Brown rode top 5 recruiting classes all the way down the mountain. Baylor, Iowa St, and Okie Lite routinely kick our butts with much lower ranked classes. Think about what Bill Snyder did at K-State.

You don’t have to have 5 star o-line men to have a decent line. Wasn’t Conner Williams a 3-star? Weren’t those monster Nebraska running teams of the 90s built around walk ons?

We seem to only depend on landing the top players in the state and when we fail… we all know how that’s worked out for the last 12 seasons. We need a backup plan. We need to work the transfer portal and Juco ranks and not bet it all on landing the 5-stars. Sark didn’t use the portal to bring in a single o-lineman last year. We need to get off our high horses and get down there in the bargain basement and find some under valued people that want to play.

Of course, that implies you have a staff that can evaluate talent?????
 
What is Mike Sherman doing these days. Not a good HC, but not sure anyone could recognize and/or develop OL talent like that guy. He's old and last I heard was coaching HS in nowhere New England. Give the guy $500,000 to "consult" our OL.
 
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nashhorn said:
Watched first half again, our defense was good but those drops on offense killed us, period. The number of defenders waiting for BR was amazing.
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Yeah...I don't get the bashing of the defense last two games. The offense hung it out to dry...they coughed up both games
 
Players gotta make plays. Joshua Moore personally cost us at least 10 points. If you cannot catch a ball that hits you in the hands, that is not a coaching issue. This team is not good enough to drop balls like that and still win.

Bijon missed at least 2 blitz pickups that resulted in pressures and/or sacks. Yes, the suck has even infected #5.
 
SabreHorn said:
What is Mike Sherman doing these days. Not a good HC, but not sure anyone could recognize and/or develop OL talent like that guy. He's old and last I heard was coaching HS in nowhere New England. Give the guy $500,000 to "consult" our OL.
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If they are not going to hire Robinson, they can hire you or me and get the same results.
 
They would never hire us because Sark would have a parade of softies asking, "Coach, did you hear the way that man talked to me"
 
Yeah I noticed those blitzes and on one Bijan actually took off to the side made me wonder if it was to be a pass in the flat. If it was don’t know if Casey didn’t have time, Bijan was covered, or an assignment was blown. Regardless the amount of time CT had was nonexistent most of the day.
 
nashhorn said:
Yeah I noticed those blitzes and on one Bijan actually took off to the side made me wonder if it was to be a pass in the flat. If it was don’t know if Casey didn’t have time, Bijan was covered, or an assignment was blown. Regardless the amount of time CT had was nonexistent most of the day.
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I recall the play. It was going to be a pass to Bijan in the flat, but CT was hurried and Bijan may have been held or at least well covered.
 
SabreHorn said:
Please give inquiring minds the name of said "right coach", who was available and/or amenable.
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It doesn’t matter, just this guy is 4-4 with blown leads. Looks like he’ll end up 7-6.

He should be on thin ice, a twice fired coach whose highest ranked team was a #20 ranking at USC over a 7 season career with a drinking problem? If we are 7-6 next year he should be done.
Agree that no one wants to come here because of the pressure, horrible fans, and you have to kiss donor ***. I like the guy, but I prefer ******** if they win.
 
Statalyzer said:
The defense gave up 3 straight TDs to open the 2nd half even though we got the ball first out of halftime and went on a 7 minute scoring drive.
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The game was choked into the hands of BU in the 2nd quarter by the offense and left up for grabs. They just dont capitalize when they need to and it absolutely has to impact the psyche and performance of the D...not making excuses for them they need to be tougher I get it.
Having said this. Everything you said is obviously true, as well. I get it.
Now that's Baylor
And osu game? Offense coughed it up (beyond just the obvious pick 6 even) when defense had established control and the game could have been taken over. Leaving points on the field(and giving opponents direct scores or more scoring opportunities) matters...just ask any D guys
 
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LHABSOB said:
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That's what i said.
I also said that a 7th grade coach would not have made that decision.
At first i thought the punter obviously did that on his own. But later i found out the play was called. What?!
Now there are decisions that spring from faith and hope, wanting to catch the opponent off guard. But fourth and 11 just 3 points down and nine minutes left?. Isn't pinning them down deep and maybe getting a 3 and out a much better decision? Did he make that decision out of desperation? Did that decision come from a dark place? This concerns me. Is the pressure of winning getting to him? Was he grilled in the press conference afterwards?
I suppose that the opponent scoring 3 successive touchdowns coming out of halftime was pressuring. I can understand that. So i know that he didn't want to give the opponent the ball. But a fake punt on fourth and 11?

Oh trust me, i want Sark to succeed, badly. Ive got high notions of that. I feel we are on the cusp of being a top ten team based on the recruits we are going to get and his creative play calling.
But that decision was piss poor.
Am i seeing small a crack in the dam?
 
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I cannot believe he made the call. Maybe a “if you have a wide open run, take it” comment but not an all out go for it. Watching the play I can see where Dicker may have seen what he thought was an open lane. The defenders were backed off to his left and it looked open - maybe for Jamal Charles but not a kicker! I think Sark is covering for Dicker, just mho.
 
When Steve Sarkisian sits across the table eye to eye with me and tells me that HE made that call, I'll believe it. Until then, I think he's deflecting the heat.
 
I stand by my statement. No coach with half a brain is going to throw his player under the bus. I want to see the whites of his eyes when he says it to me, not to a group of babbling idiots known also as "reporters".
 
SabreHorn said:
I stand by my statement. No coach with half a brain is going to throw his player under the bus. I want to see the whites of his eyes when he says it to me, not to a group of babbling idiots known also as "reporters".
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Yea, I'm more likely to believe Dicker was given options.
He was obviously looking to throw the ball.
If that wasn't there, there was still time to pooch kick it downfield.
He made the wrong decision to try and run for it.
Regardless, this play did not lose the game.
There were plenty of others that did that.
 
First.. should have never been called.
Second, if called, should have been throw if wide open and dont miss or I'll kill you and if not open kick it and quick.. do not run, do not throw a pick, and do not get a kicked blocked or I will also kill you
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