Coronavirus

[Driver 8]

Glad to hear good news!

 

[Horn6721]

Bubba
How convenient. There are zero reports off Google search that any patient needing HCQ could not get the med
But You Bubba know of a pharmacy in Ok who according to you says they have no HCQ meds to give to patients who need them
But you can't give the name of the commercial company.
Riiiight
You beclown yourself

 

[dukesteer]

Acosta asked several time who produced the vid and who paid for it

I think that was Jonathan Karl. I didn’t notice AcoASSta today.

Regardless, they will be featuring Donald Trump in MBA advanced communications classes for the rest of eternity. The guy is simply extraordinary. To the media, Donald Trump is kryptonite.

 

[dukesteer]

Bubba
How convenient. There are zero reports off Google search that any patient needing HCQ could not get the med
But You Bubba know of a pharmacy in Ok who according to you says they have no HCQ meds to give to patients who need them
But you can't give the name of the commercial company.
Riiiight
You beclown yourself

Gotta defend Bubba on this one.

I researched the availability of HCQ & also chloroquine pretty extensively about three weeks ago. (Perhaps availability has improved, but I doubt it.)

At that time, not only did no Costco, CVS, Walgreens or Rite-Aid pharmacy close to me in SoCal not have any, but my search included pharmacies in other parts of the country like Leon Springs, TX. I found none, and they all told me that they didn’t know when the med would be available.

Let me add that my somewhat extensive search included México — yes, I have connections — and again, we found almost none, and that was at least four weeks ago. (In México it’s over the counter.) They found one or two boxes in Cozumel.

I haven’t kept up with all of the posts but if Bubba is expressing concern for Lupus patients, according to one of the leading authorities on the subject, Dr. Daniel Wallace of Cedars Sinai, Lupus patients — if they struggle to locate HCQ, can (to paraphrase the doctor) go 2-3 months if necessary without the med because of the levels that have built up in their system.

 

[nashhorn]

What? No comments on Trumps “total” assertions? I’m baffled.

 

[OUBubba]

Gotta defend Bubba on this one.

I researched the availability of HCQ & also chloroquine pretty extensively about three weeks ago. (Perhaps availability has improved, but I doubt it.)

At that time, not only did no Costco, CVS, Walgreens or Rite-Aid pharmacy close to me in SoCal not have any, but my search included pharmacies in other parts of the country like Leon Springs, TX. I found none, and they all told me that they didn’t know when the med would be available.

Let me add that my somewhat extensive search included México — yes, I have connections — and again, we found almost none, and that was at least four weeks ago. (In México it’s over the counter.) They found one or two boxes in Cozumel.

I haven’t kept up with all of the posts but if Bubba is expressing concern for Lupus patients, according to one of the leading authorities on the subject, Dr. Daniel Wallace of Cedars Sinai, Lupus patients — if they struggle to locate HCQ, can (to paraphrase the doctor) go 2-3 months if necessary without the med because of the levels that have built up in their system.

Thanks. If a patient thinks something is helping them they don't hear "you've got enough built up in your system" well.

 

[dukesteer]

Thanks. If a patient thinks something is helping them they don't hear "you've got enough built up in your system" well.

True. But let’s assume — just for arguments sake — that indeed Lupus and RA patients are struggling to secure the medication. If the decision is to jeopardize access for “20 to 150 cases per 100,000” for the possibility of helping 500 to 1,000 cases per 100,000 — and probably save many lives, what would you do? It’s a no brainer for me.

So HCQ is unproven you say? At what point is overwhelming anecdotal data no longer “anecdotal?”

 

[Mr. Deez]

 

[Mr. Deez]

LULZ

Well, it was propaganda. It was a video of idiots in the media putting out propaganda.

 

[Monahorns]

Austin is sliding further into the grips of tyranny. Today they extended the shut in declaration through May 8 and added the requirement that anyone over 10 must where a face covering. It was a little unclear if it is required at any place outside, but mentions when outside getting gas. Mayor Adler states that if people don't follow the order willingly he will start mean of enforcement.

Glad I don't live in Travis Co. anymore.

 

[nashhorn]

Ahole

 

[mb227]

Bubba
How convenient. There are zero reports off Google search that any patient needing HCQ could not get the med
But You Bubba know of a pharmacy in Ok who according to you says they have no HCQ meds to give to patients who need them
But you can't give the name of the commercial company.
Riiiight
You beclown yourself

I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt simply because of the realities that 1) shortages of ANY drug can occur, especially if it is a smaller pharmacy and 2) I've seen shortages of opioids during spikes in the faux outrage that shows up in the media from time to time.

While Percocet is not the same as HCQ, there are going to be occasions where the low fish in the distribution totem pole is left fighting for scraps that may not exist.

 

[Horn6721]

I am corrected in the issue of HCQ not being available for lupus patients.
I still can't find any reports on Google or Bing of anyone actually not being able to get a refill in time
I do see anecdotal reports of people being worried there will be a shortage and that is a valid concern.
There are 50 million doses coming from India and as many as seven different USA pharmaceutical companies have agreed to mass produce as much as 250 million doses by mid-April.
Hopefully availability will ease the real anxiety by people who are taking this for lupus and arthritis As well as having it for use with Covid19

 

[Phil Elliott]

Austin is sliding further into the grips of tyranny. Today they extended the shut in declaration through May 8 and added the requirement that anyone over 10 must where a face covering. It was a little unclear if it is required at any place outside, but mentions when outside getting gas. Mayor Adler states that if people don't follow the order willingly he will start mean of enforcement.

I am now pissed beyond the pissedness of all pistivity. I can only hope that Gov. Abbott will invalidate this ridiculous power grab by Adler.

In the meantime, I will be taking my business to Hays County whenever possible as I live on the border of the 2 counties.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

Glad I don't live in Travis Co. anymore.

Gone 20 years and don't miss it one tiny bit.

 

[Joe Fan]

 

[horninchicago]

She'd rather die. And that would do the world well.

 

[theiioftx]

Austin is sliding further into the grips of tyranny. Today they extended the shut in declaration through May 8 and added the requirement that anyone over 10 must where a face covering. It was a little unclear if it is required at any place outside, but mentions when outside getting gas. Mayor Adler states that if people don't follow the order willingly he will start mean of enforcement.

Glad I don't live in Travis Co. anymore.

I’m starting to think some of these liberals want civil unrest. They are unlikely to be able to totally destroy the economy if the quarantine lifts April 30, so need one other option to try to oust Trump.

 

[Garmel]

NYTimes has the emails. Brace yourselves, Trumpsters.

This aged well. LOL!

 

[Joe Fan]

This aged well. LOL!

I am considering invoking this as a new West Mall rule

 

[Garmel]

Any chance Trump will do a part 2 of yesterday's performance? Watching the news agencies and Twitter blow up was awesome.

 

[SabreHorn]

Travis County has finally gotten enough California transplants that the city has become "The Peoples Republic of Austin"

 

[OrangeShogun]

For all the attorneys on this site, how is this face covering mandate not a violation of civil liberty?

 

[Phil Elliott]

Travis County has finally gotten enough California transplants that the city has become "The Peoples Republic of Austin"

Pffft. People have been calling it that since I moved here in 1983, at least.

 

[Horn6721]

is Austin seeing big increases in people infected and dying?

 

[OUBubba]

True. But let’s assume — just for arguments sake — that indeed Lupus and RA patients are struggling to secure the medication. If the decision is to jeopardize access for “20 to 150 cases per 100,000” for the possibility of helping 500 to 1,000 cases per 100,000 — and probably save many lives, what would you do? It’s a no brainer for me.

So HCQ is unproven you say? At what point is overwhelming anecdotal data no longer “anecdotal?”

I did some reading on the topic. I can say that there appears to be some promise with this treatment. It appears that there are some serious studies being undertaken now. The one I read seemed more like a battlefield study and that's an appropriate way to perform it during an outbreak. I think it would have a shot of being more accepted by the medical community if the Surgeon General or Dr. Fauci were discussing it. Also, they should highlight the "potential" as opposed to the promise.

I think in a few months we will know as much about what treatments/efforts to avoid as much as what will work. This is a crafty little bug.

 

[Monahorns]

I’m starting to think some of these liberals want civil unrest. They are unlikely to be able to totally destroy the economy if the quarantine lifts April 30, so need one other option to try to oust Trump.

Eyes, I just think the Left likes to wield power. Any excuse to do it, is fair game.

 

[Monahorns]

is Austin seeing big increases in people infected and dying?

No. Cases still under 1000 of a population of 1.3 million. Austin never really got started to be honest. Part of that is the wise decision to cancel SXSW and the relatively early start to the quarantining. It hit NY and Houston first, so Austin didn't ever get too far up the curve.

 

[Monahorns]

Remember "shelter in place" was sold to us in order to flatten the curve, not end the outbreak. The important thing to do was to keep the hospitals from being overrun, to give them time to prepare beds, ventilators, tests, potential therapies, etc.

The people of America have done their part. The FDA and CDC haven't. They have continued to restrict the production and distribution of needed medical resources. Trump suspended some of the FDA restrictions, but only some and only temporarily. If Trump will continue to strip away the artificial bottlenecks, we can still open up society without putting hospitals at risk for over crowding.

On May 4th, it will be time for mass protests in Austin and all over America. We will need to go into the streets en mass, with masks for those who prefer, with those who have a cough voluntarily staying at home, congregating in commercials districts and in building where possible to demand the government to get out of the way and let workers work and doctors take care of the sick.

 

[OUBubba]

No. Cases still under 1000 of a population of 1.3 million. Austin never really got started to be honest. Part of that is the wise decision to cancel SXSW and the relatively early start to the quarantining. It hit NY and Houston first, so Austin didn't ever get too far up the curve.

There's a quasi-working theory here that we had some of it way early. There was a flu that was negative for A and B this season. Once the antibody testing is available we'll know for sure or at least be able to disprove that thought. I'm not sure that I buy that the virus circled around eastern Oklahoma and didn't make it to Dallas or Tulsa.