Coronavirus

[Sangre Naranjada]

Feel sorry for anyone who hires these neurotics.

What a pack of pathetic *******.

 

[mchammer]

 

[OUBubba]

Asians have been wearing masks for years to protect themselves. It could be a thing with some people.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

If they are young and healthy people, the support I will give them is to point and laugh.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

Asians have been wearing masks for years to protect themselves. It could be a thing with some people.

Amazing how Asians still manage to catch the common cold, flu, and 'rona, isn't it?

 

[mchammer]

 

[iatrogenic]

Scientifically conducted polling now shows that masks are suddenly unnecessary. Dems are following the science.

 

[horninchicago]

Scientifically conducted polling now shows that masks are suddenly unnecessary. Dems are following the science.

Plenty of stupid people will believe they kept us masked until all danger was gone. They will vote for the same dumb asses.

 

[Duck Dodgers]

Just in time for Depend's State of the Union address, the Science!, coincidently, has changed to allow for the audience not to be required to wear Wuhans. As an audience full of people with dirty socks on their faces won't feed well into Depend's "All is well!!" propoganda that his handlers will have him slur out.

As I wrote before:

• Now that our political masters are looking at an electoral wipeout in November, we do not recommend adults wear masks in public.
• Now that our political masters are are looking at an electoral wipeout in November, we do not recommend forcing children to wear dirty face coverings all day long.

 

[theiioftx]

Suddenly, the virus is gone. We don’t need masks or social distancing? If you are a democrat, not sure whether to call you a traitor or just stupid. I’ll let all three of you let us know.

 

[Duck Dodgers]

As before:

 

[Duck Dodgers]

Haaa, even the Democrat Governor's Association has their meetings in Florida. No word yet on how many died and also killed their grannies:

 

[Horn2RunAgain]

Suddenly, the virus is gone. We don’t need masks or social distancing? If you are a democrat, not sure whether to call you a traitor or just stupid. I’ll let all three of you let us know.

I'd say door #2, Monty....

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

Haaa, even the Democrat Governor's Association has their meetings in Florida. No word yet on how many died and also killed their grannies:
(From the tweet)At a weekend fund-raising retreat in South Florida, several governors, candidates for governor and donors acknowledged that voters’ frustration with the lingering pandemic was damaging the party more than expected.

No, you stupid shits. It is voters' frustration with your idiotic mandates and restrictions in response to the pandemic that is damaging your party. And rightfully so.

 

[mchammer]

Pfizer Vaccine Far Less Effective In 5-11 Year-Olds, Latest Data Show | ZeroHedge

 

[OUBubba]

Suddenly, the virus is gone. We don’t need masks or social distancing? If you are a democrat, not sure whether to call you a traitor or just stupid. I’ll let all three of you let us know.

That seems excessively hurtful. Masks are imperfect but did have some impact. As did social distancing and handwashing. Omicron's quick burn moved us to an endemic phase.

 

[horninchicago]

That seems excessively hurtful. Masks are imperfect but did have some impact. As did social distancing and handwashing. Omicron's quick burn moved us to an endemic phase.

Is there ANY way to actually prove that assertion about masks having had an impact? Serious question, not messing with you. How do we know?

 

[theiioftx]

The response from government for masks and social distancing caused massive economic and social damage not to mention death and disease progression. The sooner (no pun intended) we all accept this, the more prepared we will be when China releases the next virus.

 

[BrntOrngStmpeDe]

Pre-vaccine, I agreee that masks were appropriate, as was distancing and hand washing. We didn't have a lot of arrows in the quiver at that point. Post-vaccine, or at least post widespread vaccine availability, masks were/are silly. If the vaccine was shown to have a 94% effective rate then how much more could a mask really do. Pre-vaccine they weren't even able to show masks were effective on any level, so are we really going to try now to say that a masks make the difference between 94% and 96% ??

Masks work in a hospital setting because all the people are trained and committed to wearing them correctly and doing all the other stuff correctly as well. In a general public setting, most of the other protocols are being done poorly, if at all. So it is a fallacy to equate mask wearing in a hospital to mask wearing in public.

but it is very funny that all of a sudden the Dem's don't think it is necessary. what they really think is that it will be a really bad look for them to be on camera with a mask during the SOTU while the GOPs are right across the aisle with bright shining faces unmasked. That would be a huge photo op for GOP messaging during the primaries.

 

[mb227]

Masks work in a hospital setting because all the people are trained and committed to wearing them correctly and doing all the other stuff correctly as well. In a general public setting, most of the other protocols are being done poorly, if at all. So it is a fallacy to equate mask wearing in a hospital to mask wearing in public.

Masks are not generally used in a hospital for airborne viruses. They have a specific use in the surgical theatre, which includes not coughing into open wounds and not having bodily fluids spurting into the nose and mouth of the surgical team.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

Is there ANY way to actually prove that assertion about masks having had an impact? Serious question, not messing with you. How do we know?

They didn't have squat for an impact. Handwashing and social distancing certainly did. But face diapers with holes in their mesh hundreds to thousands of times larger than the size of a virus? Absolutely no help whatsoever.

 

[horninchicago]

They didn't have squat for an impact. Handwashing and social distancing certainly did. But face diapers with holes in their mesh hundreds to thousands of times larger than the size of a virus? Absolutely no help whatsoever.

I know.

I'll say hand washing and social distancing were also theater. Hand washing? It's an airborne virus. Wash your hands all day. How does that keep you from breathing it in through an ineffective mask? And, no one could maintain a constant 6+ feet from other people.

Theater.

 

[OUBubba]

Is there ANY way to actually prove that assertion about masks having had an impact? Serious question, not messing with you. How do we know?

I was on calls every week with the doc who was the head of the tulsa area data center for health surveillance. I've worked with him for about 15 years. He is VERY sharp. The positivity rate was always a little lower in areas that had mask mandates. He was the person who went to the various meetings to present the data. I agree it seemed to be a slight difference - ranging form 2% to 10% at times. However, cities large enough to have a mask mandate were typically more dense so it should skew the other way. It made a little bit of a difference.

I think masks outside were silly and we learned that shutdowns, particularly in schools were not worth all of the residual damages - ranging from financial to societal.

 

[OUBubba]

They didn't have squat for an impact. Handwashing and social distancing certainly did. But face diapers with holes in their mesh hundreds to thousands of times larger than the size of a virus? Absolutely no help whatsoever.

But the virus travels with the larger molecules. There are various examples you can go to google machine and see why they helped to some extent. Ironically, I am arguing with the infection control person today to try to get our internal mask guidelines adjusted.

 

[horninchicago]

I was on calls every week with the doc who was the head of the tulsa area data center for health surveillance. I've worked with him for about 15 years. He is VERY sharp. The positivity rate was always a little lower in areas that had mask mandates. He was the person who went to the various meetings to present the data. I agree it seemed to be a slight difference - ranging form 2% to 10% at times. However, cities large enough to have a mask mandate were typically more dense so it should skew the other way. It made a little bit of a difference.

I think masks outside were silly and we learned that shutdowns, particularly in schools were not worth all of the residual damages - ranging from financial to societal.

But, doesn't everyone eventually become exposed to airborne viruses, anyway? So, numbers could be low in masked areas but there could be reasons for that, such as, how many cases had those areas had prior to the mandates, thus lessening the number of cases thereafter?

Everyone just needs to be exposed so we know how to fight it off. The masks have causes more damage than covid itself. Now, that is based on no data either but my opinion, just as the mask impact is opinion.

We don't know who is right or wrong here. I think most people would have just preferred the risk of getting covid, which they would get anyway unless they lived in a hermetically sealed house.

It's an interesting discussion, but it is hard to dismiss the fact that poll numbers for those mandating masks, etc., are at disastrous lows, and now suddenly the science says no masks.

Thus the continued BS meters going off at full tilt.

 

[AC]

My 21 year old daughter who is in the Army got vaccinated, two shots. I found out much later. She knows Mom and I strongly disagree. Anyway, now she wakes up every morning with a racing heart and chest pain. Her EKG is scheduled (by me) for tomorrow. Here name is Anna. Prayers appreciated!

 

[OUBubba]

But, doesn't everyone eventually become exposed to airborne viruses, anyway? So, numbers could be low in masked areas but there could be reasons for that, such as, how many cases had those areas had prior to the mandates, thus lessening the number of cases thereafter?

Everyone just needs to be exposed so we know how to fight it off. The masks have causes more damage than covid itself. Now, that is based on no data either but my opinion, just as the mask impact is opinion.

We don't know who is right or wrong here. I think most people would have just preferred the risk of getting covid, which they would get anyway unless they lived in a hermetically sealed house.

It's an interesting discussion, but it is hard to dismiss the fact that poll numbers for those mandating masks, etc., are at disastrous lows, and now suddenly the science says no masks.

Thus the continued BS meters going off at full tilt.

Or omicron did what was predicted. The variant was much more contagious but less severe. It helped migrate us toward herd immunity. We’re not there yet but getting closer. Look at us being adults!

 

[mchammer]

My 21 year old daughter who is in the Army got vaccinated, two shots. I found out much later. She knows Mom and I strongly disagree. Anyway, now she wakes up every morning with a racing heart and chest pain. Her EKG is scheduled (by me) for tomorrow. Here name is Anna. Prayers appreciated!

Speculated to be vagus nerve damage from spike proteins, whether vaccine or Covid induced.

 

[mchammer]

 

[Monahorns]

Is there ANY way to actually prove that assertion about masks having had an impact? Serious question, not messing with you. How do we know?

There are reams of charts showing they are ineffective. There are dozens of studies pre-2020 that say the same thing. There are RCT studies done on COVID that show the same thing. The only studies that claimed any effectiveness were done over narrow time frames, studied mannequins in labs, or weren't set up to make reliable conclusions.