Coronavirus

Creek said:
These leftists have backed their *** in a corner with these mandates. No way they can not move it unless they want utter chaos. The police and military are 1/3 un vaxxed, truckers 50%, pilots. The train companies that haul coal and food are 50%.
Talk about high grocery prices, which will do the stock market in as everyone pulls their funds...
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This will all unfold later on. But if Deep State is allowed to carry on, utter chaos is their agenda! The question is will they be allowed to carry on or not?
 
Pure speculation here! IF I am Military, I would let the vax mandates destroy the economy as most Americans walk off the job to avoid the vax. That way, it will be obvious that Devolution (per Declaration of Independence) will be the only way to stop this in it's tracks! We need Devolution, it's just not obvious enough yet, to enough Americans.
 
AC said:
This will all unfold later on. But if Deep State is allowed to carry on, utter chaos is their agenda! The question is will they be allowed to carry on or not?
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I believe chaos is part of the agenda. Somewhere unseen behind the ideological zealots serving as useful idiots, there has to be a purpose. I'm not sure what the purpose would be, but it I believe its evil.
 
Uh, well no. Didn’t even see that just read the 60 and thought hmmm that seems pretty high. To tell the truth I don’t even remember what it was about now and too lazy to go back and look it up. All in all this has been a heck of an interesting thread.
 
Federal judge issues temporary restraining order that Biden can't fire or discipline federal employees while religious exemption to vaccine mandate is pending. Link.

Again, I think the federal employee vax mandate is constitutional and legal. However, the execution of it is terribly done. It's like he hired Trump's people to do it.
 
Creek said:
If you can mandate vaxxes you can mandate anything. I guess we warring soon enough.
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The only thing stopping total totalitarianism is the fact there is still a remnant of “rule of law.” But that’s under seige. Once the justice system has been captured by the sociopaths, it’s all over.
 
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Creek said:
If you can mandate vaxxes you can mandate anything. I guess we warring soon enough.
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A general vaccine mandate? No. Making federal employees get vaccinated as a condition of employment in federal service? Yes, if the appropriate exemptions are available.
 
Horns11 said:
Lauren Boebert would like a word.

Colorado is a lot like Illinois in terms of its electoral demographics. Because of the size of Denver, national GOP candidates aren't going to win. But outside of Denver? I'd say it's a lot further red or right-libertarian than many other states, including NM and AZ.

As for whether it's national newsworthy, CO is still #37 in the country in cases per capita. And they don't have a governor who is blaming illegals and Fauci for a lack of hospital space.
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Got it. Any Republican Governor is totally to blame for any and all Wuhan virus cases. While any Democrat Governor, well it’s complicated! And no matter what, they are certainly not to blame.

Maybe Polis can have daily press conferences and win the 2020 Emmy, now that soon to be tried for sex crimes Cuomo had it revoked.
 
OUBubba said:
Less significant than 380%. Correct?
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Rubbish comparison. Vermont is a low population, low density state of 97 percent white people. Compare Florida to New York and get back to us.

Look, with the exception of Cuomo who sent Wuhan infected patients back to nursing homes, no Governor has had much of an impact on the virus, good or bad. People can cherry pick data when a state is having an outbreak to make it look bad, or wait till the outbreak is over when it looks good.

The only question all along has been how much of your state’s economy gets ruined by stupid restrictions and decrees - all of which coincidentally affect small businesses while helping, mysteriously, politically connected businesses like Amazon and the tech companies.
 
Horn2RunAgain said:
In a 60 day period.., cases, hospitalizations, deaths increased 10x among the vaccinated.

Breakthrough Infections, Deaths Among COVID-19 Vaccinated Rose in Recent Months: CDC
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I'm sure some of the usuals will point to the one fatality while ignoring that the categories are almost all showing a ten-fold increase. Further, those numbers seemed to suggest a higher percentage of the breakthrough positives having to go to the hospital, which flies in the face of what the bill of goods is that #EmptyShelvesJoe has been selling...
 
Mr. Deez said:
That's what the amendment process is for.
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Good luck with that.

Where in the Constitution does it grant the Federal government the power to dictate what medical products citizens use, employees or not? The whole idea was that the Fedgov could only do what powers specifically granted. Nobody follows it. It's a dead letter at this point in time.
 
There is truly no logic in the face hugger protocol.

Apparently you don't have to wear one while in a limo, but then you put one on while walking outside away from anyone, then take it off when you're close and talking to another elected official:

 
Monahorns said:
Good luck with that.

Where in the Constitution does it grant the Federal government the power to dictate what medical products citizens use, employees or not? The whole idea was that the Fedgov could only do what powers specifically granted. Nobody follows it. It's a dead letter at this point in time.
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You're confusing a mandate with a condition of employment. The federal government doesn't have the right to mandate that anyone take a vaccine, but it does have the right to hire whomever it chooses to execute the laws of the United States. If it only wants to hire vaccinated people, it can do that. I do think the Constitution can impose a religious and medical exemption, but can it require the vaccine as a general rule? Yes.
 
Duck Dodgers said:
Rubbish comparison. Vermont is a low population, low density state of 97 percent white people. Compare Florida to New York and get back to us.

Look, with the exception of Cuomo who sent Wuhan infected patients back to nursing homes, no Governor has had much of an impact on the virus, good or bad. People can cherry pick data when a state is having an outbreak to make it look bad, or wait till the outbreak is over when it looks good.

The only question all along has been how much of your state’s economy gets ruined by stupid restrictions and decrees - all of which coincidentally affect small businesses while helping, mysteriously, politically connected businesses like Amazon and the tech companies.
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Oh I agree. But 380% is such a number that vaccines might have a little but of impact.
 
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