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Considering that it is not a vaccine such as we used to view vaccines (you know, back when they actually had fragments of a particular disease specifically to help the body develop immunities)
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That's how the J&J one works though, isn't it?
 
Great article H2r. Of course I am sure a few will pop-poo the source but I liked it, no doubt because it mirrors my feelings but what the heck, I thought it was great.
 
Statalyzer said:
That's how the J&J one works though, isn't it?
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You know how hard it is to find J&J anywhere? They even largely quit using it in TDCJ after the clotting issue soon after its release...and when they won't give it to felons, you KNOW it will be a challenge in the free world.
 
mb227 said:
You know how hard it is to find J&J anywhere? They even largely quit using it in TDCJ after the clotting issue soon after its release...and when they won't give it to felons, you KNOW it will be a challenge in the free world.
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I can get it for you if you want it. Just message me. :)
 
OUBubba said:
It’s not as effective as the mRNA vaccines.
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What’s the basis of you saying that Bubba? Not challenging it, just curious. I remember the clot issues but don’t remember the it being less effective claims - other than some talk when only Phizer and then Moderna were only ones out.
 
77% of Hawaii’s eligible population is fully vaccinated, and 87% has received at least one shot.

The state has ample hospital beds, but staffing has been strained. The state brought in an extra 600 nurses and other health care professionals to assist with COVID-19 patients.

Another example of Covid straining poorly run or under staffed hospitals. It’s NOT good hospitals being overrun with Covid patients as portrayed by the lying media. The goings on in bum **** Idaho and Alabama apparently should be followed closely.
 
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Seattle Husker said:
The Cali's are vaxed. Idahoans not so much. Idaho has a pretty toxic brew of religious zealots and "freedom" at any cost. There is a reason one of the Bundy's is running for Governor there.
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And yet, California has a death rate of 171 per 100k, while those hick in Idaho are dying in the streets at the rate of, checks notes, 145.

U.S. COVID-19 death rate by state | Statista

If you read the above post slowly enough, you can just feel the hate extruding through it, for anyone who doesn't vote the same way. As the Babylon Bee said it best:

Liberal Feels Sad For Man Dying Of COVID, Then Happy After Hearing He Wasn’t Vaccinated, Then Sad Again Because He Was An Illegal Immigrant
 
That aspect is covered by this Statement of Fact from Science!!!:

  • We are also silent about the possible impact of 250,000 people a month running across the border, all from countries with miniscule vaccination rates, with up to 40% of them actually having the Wuhan. We realize that these are replacement voters for Americans who are not always reliable in their voting choices, and so should be welcomed into the country with open arms and no virus testing.
 
Duck Dodgers said:
Also, we must strangle our children so they don't die from a disease that doesn't kill them. Science!

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I don't know that it's child abuse, but it's rank stupidity. The disease does little or nothing to them, and even if it did, it's a losing battle. You're never going to keep small children masked - too much natural tendency to put stuff in their mouths, too much drool, etc. Deez, Jr. was masked at school last year. Most days, that thing came home pretty wet. No way is that cleaner or safer than if he just wore nothing.
 
Holy smokes - the virtual FDA meeting is on utube where they discussed approving the booster with the Open Public Hearings. I would encourage anyone interested in what’s going on to listen. It is eye opening. It doesn’t take long to see why they only approved it for over 65 although it is hard to see how it was approved for anyone based on the incredibly low standards of clinical trial! Only 320 patients and 12 were over 65.
Public hearings start at approx 4:00 mark. Bubba will enjoy Dr Rose at 4:10. There are a few pro booster speakers but some very interesting anti as well. It is true we, the public, are definitely the clinical trial subjects here. Wow.
 
nashhorn said:
Holy smokes - the virtual FDA meeting is on utube where they discussed approving the booster with the Open Public Hearings. I would encourage anyone interested in what’s going on to listen. It is eye opening. It doesn’t take long to see why they only approved it for over 65 although it is hard to see how it was approved for anyone based on the incredibly low standards of clinical trial! Only 320 patients and 12 were over 65.
Public hearings start at approx 4:00 mark. Bubba will enjoy Dr Rose at 4:10. There are a few pro booster speakers but some very interesting anti as well. It is true we, the public, are definitely the clinical trial subjects here. Wow.
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Thank you for this, nash


Bombshell Testimony From FDA Vaccine Hearing Reveals Injections Killing More Than Saving, Driving Variants - [your]NEWS


During that hearing, Dr. Steve Kirsch, director of the COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund, claimed that the injections are killing more people than they’re helping.

“I’m going to focus my remarks today on the elephant in the room that nobody likes to talk about: that the vaccines kill more people than they save,” Kirsch said via teleconference.

“Today, we focus almost exclusively on COVID death saves and vaccine efficacy because we were led to believe that vaccines were perfectly safe. But this is simply not true.”

“For example, there are four times as many heart attacks in the treatment group in the Pfizer 6-month trial report,” Kirsch continued. “That wasn’t bad luck. VAERS shows heart attacks happened 71x more often following these vaccines compared to any other vaccine.”

“In all 20 people died who got the drug, 14 died who got the placebo. Few people noticed that. If the net all-cause mortality from the vaccine is negative, vaccines, boosters, and mandates are all nonsensical.”

“Even if the vaccines had a 100% protection, it still means we killed two people to save one life,” he added.

Kirsch also explained that in nursing home death data shows about half the vaccinated died, while none of the unvaccinated died.
 
I didn’t specifically mention Kirsh because I do not believe he’s a Dr and I’m sure certain posters would pop pop his testimony because of that bug stats are stats and he does get specific on some details. Nevertheless there are numerous others that raise indisputable and legitimate concerns of the entire cluster **** that is the medical response.
 
nashhorn said:
I didn’t specifically mention Kirsh because I do not believe he’s a Dr and I’m sure certain posters would pop pop his testimony because of that bug stats are stats and he does get specific on some details. Nevertheless there are numerous others that raise indisputable and legitimate concerns of the entire cluster **** that is the medical response.
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The article identifies him as a Doctor.

>>During that hearing, Dr. Steve Kirsch, director of the COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund,
 
bystander said:
A Texas restaurant owner threw out a family wearing masks who were trying to protect their immunocompromised son

Between Abbott's throwing red meat to the right (gun rights/abortion) and people such as this owner, Beto is starting to look good to me at times. I can't stand this bravado and pretense of freedom. To humiliate people over wearing a mask is sick.
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Seems to me the family shouldn't be out to eat if they have an immunocompromised son. Cloth masks won't protect him.

EDIT - That is not to say the owner of the restaurant wasn't a dick about it.
 
bystander said:
A Texas restaurant owner threw out a family wearing masks who were trying to protect their immunocompromised son

Between Abbott's throwing red meat to the right (gun rights/abortion) and people such as this owner, Beto is starting to look good to me at times. I can't stand this bravado and pretense of freedom. To humiliate people over wearing a mask is sick.
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Now they know how people like me feel when we're stopped at the door of an establishment w/o a mask :smile1:

(neither is right for doing so)
 
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