Coronavirus

Riddle me this...

If the 'rona was truly overwhelming staff, then it makes no sense that they would be running off staff who don't want a shot. You don't get to create a staffing shortage and then claim you are SOOOOO overwhelmed...you just don't.

It's almost as if hospitals want to avoid exacerbating the problem of unvaccinated individuals filling up their ICU beds...

Vaccines limit the impact of Covid. Shouldn't healthcare workers lead the way on limiting the impact of Covid?
 
It's almost as if hospitals want to avoid exacerbating the problem of unvaccinated individuals filling up their ICU beds...

Vaccines limit the impact of Covid. Shouldn't healthcare workers lead the way on limiting the impact of Covid?
Our initial motivation came because we needed to be fully staffed to take care of people and the way to stay that way with Covid was to be vaccinated. The curve ball has been mommas of kids.
 
It's almost as if hospitals want to avoid exacerbating the problem of unvaccinated individuals filling up their ICU beds...

Vaccines limit the impact of Covid. Shouldn't healthcare workers lead the way on limiting the impact of Covid?
And yet the vast majority of people will either be asymptomatic and already HAVE natural antibodies OR the symptoms will be mild and without the side effects brought on by the 'vaccine' (now or in the future, since proper vetting HAS NOT taken place). Medical personnel, above all others, know the risk of being a lab rat...

It is ironic that guidance was given to consult with your physician...unless you ARE the physician, in which case we don't trust you.

In the interim, we continue to watch the freakouts over 'breakthrough' cases even though the numbers on ALL cases suggest that almost everyone is going to be fine. As of yesterday, the TSA in which Harris County (Houston) falls had the exact same number of available ICU beds as a month ago. And, as I look at the numbers...since I returned from vacation, we have more ICU beds available Statewide than we did on the 15th of the month. All in spite of more than 120K positive tests since the 15th...

When you actually track and look at the data, you realize this is all about control, especially when Kamala let slip from Singapore that maybe people should get their Xmas shopping done now...
 
Why is that? No kids under 12 need a vaccine nor a test. It’s no worse than a cold. Who led the fear mongering when Trump was president? You have your side to blame.
Because delta is running through the unvaccinated (YOUNGER) population like Quentin Griffin through the Longhorn defense circa October 2000. I have two nurses and a pharmacist home this week with kids who are out of school week mother ******* ONE because of covid positives in each household. I guess you've missed the kids on the ventilators these days, right?
 
Because delta is running through the unvaccinated (YOUNGER) population like Quentin Griffin through the Longhorn defense circa October 2000. I have two nurses and a pharmacist home this week with kids who are out of school week mother ******* ONE because of covid positives in each household. I guess you've missed the kids on the ventilators these days, right?
And yet when people look INTO those claims of kids in the ICU, it almost always turns out to be because of RSV, NOT 'rona.

Even the CDC discussed the uptick in RSV barely two months ago... https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/2021/pdf/CDC-HAN-443-Increased-Interseasonal-RSV-Activity-06.10.21.pdf
 
And yet the vast majority of people will either be asymptomatic and already HAVE natural antibodies OR the symptoms will be mild and without the side effects brought on by the 'vaccine' (now or in the future, since proper vetting HAS NOT taken place). Medical personnel, above all others, know the risk of being a lab rat...

Lab rat? Pfizer is a fully approved vaccine.

It is ironic that guidance was given to consult with your physician...unless you ARE the physician, in which case we don't trust you.

Who in the medical community is saying that? Everything I read with the exception of Twitter accounts who claim to be doctors are recommending vaccination. It's not "consult your physician and make a decision that works for you" but rather "consult your physician to ensure there aren't any overriding health reasons then get your vaccine."

In the interim, we continue to watch the freakouts over 'breakthrough' cases even though the numbers on ALL cases suggest that almost everyone is going to be fine. As of yesterday, the TSA in which Harris County (Houston) falls had the exact same number of available ICU beds as a month ago. And, as I look at the numbers...since I returned from vacation, we have more ICU beds available Statewide than we did on the 15th of the month. All in spite of more than 120K positive tests since the 15th...

When you actually track and look at the data, you realize this is all about control, especially when Kamala let slip from Singapore that maybe people should get their Xmas shopping done now...

Data...like the Texas Department of Health Services. That fatality figure was 174 last week. It's 233 this week. Care to your data source because it seems to be in conflict continually with the official data sources.

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For shits and giggles I grabbed the screenshot I posted from last Friday:
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Notice that Harris County alone has jumped 112 deaths since Friday. If those deaths were black kids involved in drive bys you'd be here decrying an epidemic of gang violence is destroying Houston. Rather, these people quietly died of the "sniffles" while some claimed this is all overblown fear-mongering.
 
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I pull my daily data FROM the DSHS website. I have been compiling it almost daily since everything started last March.

The numbers are STILL not statistically significant. 233 fatalities in a State with 254 Counties. I am sure that even someone in a State that doesn't believe in core curricula can do the math and realize that is an average of less than one per County.

Further, I find it peculiar that you deliberately chose to ignore the specific data about ICU counts and the Houston-area TSA that I provided.

You ARE part of the problem.

And all the LOL's about Pfizer. You act as if people are getting an absolute choice in what crap gets injected into them. If they are all so safe, then why do J&J and Moderna not have full approval? Oh yeah, they have issues with contributions to myocarditis along with other problems...

Inside of five years, I guarantee that we will be seeing the television commercials that start with "Did you take a coronavirus vaccine in 2021 or 2022 and have ongoing health problems?"

And you want to argue semantics over the consulting with doctors? You are as effed as Psaki and her claims that no Americans are stranded in Afghanistan and the accompanying implication that anyone not at the airport has apparently not desired to exit the country.
 
The assumption is that $$ is a motivating factor to overcome the resistance. They have seen positive jumps in vaccination rates after the introduction of these incentives in States. That's a serious commitment by LonghornCatholic's company.

Companies have a vested interest in getting their employees vaccinated. They are staring at insurance rates spiking of which most companies pay a majority of the costs. Many large companies are "self insured" (eg. Starbucks) which means that every $1 is paid to a hospital is coming out of their own pocket. It's in their best interest to do everything in their power to avoid lengthy hospital stays.

My FIL spent 2 months in the ICU before pulling the plug due to COVID. Medicare picked up the cost but I can't only assume what the total cost might have been.

I understand why the firms are offering incentives and believe a direct payment can increase turnout. I'm questioning a raffle. Say a skeptical unvaxxed person has 999 colleagues that the firm wants vaccinated. They're all offered to enter a $50k raffle so the individual has a 0.1% chance to win the $50k. Wouldn't the skeptic think that's also fake news or think that as a lower payout than the vaccination?
 
I understand why the firms are offering incentives and believe a direct payment can increase turnout. I'm questioning a raffle. Say a skeptical unvaxxed person has 999 colleagues that the firm wants vaccinated. They're all offered to enter a $50k raffle so the individual has a 0.1% chance to win the $50k. Wouldn't the skeptic think that's also fake news or think that as a lower payout than the vaccination?

As a vaccinated person, I've been a bit bitter about some incentives only applied to those who get vaccinated for the incentive. Incentivizing a person to hold out hope for a bigger incentive is a bit odd.

For 1000 employees...a .1% chance at a $50k bonus, simply for being vaccinated? Neither the odds nor reward are disincentives to me.
 
As of yesterday, the TSA in which Harris County (Houston) falls had the exact same number of available ICU beds as a month ago. And, as I look at the numbers...since I returned from vacation, we have more ICU beds available Statewide than we did on the 15th of the month. All in spite of more than 120K positive tests since then
This is due to delta burning through the older folks and now hitting younger folks at school due to delta being more contagious.
 
Per HHS today Texas is reporting as follows:

- 93.12% of ICU Beds in the state of Texas are in use
- 50.26% of ICU beds are being used for COVID-19 patients.

Notice that Texas is currently a MUCH higher rate than the rest of the country in terms of ICU usage and % of ICU beds dedicated to Covid patients. The averages are represented by the circles. This is all statistically insignificant though because Texas has 254 counties. :p

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Per HHS today Texas is reporting as follows:

- 93.12% of ICU Beds in the state of Texas are in use
- 50.26% of ICU beds are being used for COVID-19 patients.

Notice that Texas is currently a MUCH higher rate than the rest of the country in terms of ICU usage and % of ICU beds dedicated to Covid patients. The averages are represented by the circles. This is all statistically insignificant though because Texas has 254 counties. :p

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1) Your own link serves to document that the ICU's are not 'filled' with 'rona cases.
2) ICU's and indeed, the entire system, tends to function at a high capacity.
3) Statewide numbers don't tell the whole picture, especially since you choose to remain deliberately obtuse about the strains placed upon border cities by the incompetence of the SippyCupJoe administration (this will hopefully change now that the Courts have ruled 'remain in Mexico' needs to be reinstated).
4) You continue to illustrate that you lack a capacity to properly parse data since you don't like the way the Great State of Texas presents Texas-specific data.
5) You ALSO continue to ignore that the fed numbers overlook/disregard the quack-in-a-box facility that have a few beds.
6) I will never understand why someone with no apparent connection to the State spends so much time on this board.
 
Should Delta charge employee smokers $200 extra per month?
No.

Some nominal amount? Perhaps. But they claim a $40K average hospital stay while simultaneously ignoring how few people actually go to the hospital. The tax (let's call it what it is) also grossly inflates costs to be borne by the employer.

And, if a company has a health plan, then it is up to the underwriters to come up with an actuarial chart that supports whatever amount is going to be taxed upon the employee, a chart that will pass regulatory muster.
 
1) Your own link serves to document that the ICU's are not 'filled' with 'rona cases.

Who are you quoting? A strawman?

2) ICU's and indeed, the entire system, tends to function at a high capacity.

Are you saying that Texas always operates at a higher capacity than the rest to the country? Just want to get that on record before I prove to you that's not the case.

3) Statewide numbers don't tell the whole picture, especially since you choose to remain deliberately obtuse about the strains placed upon border cities by the incompetence of the SippyCupJoe administration (this will hopefully change now that the Courts have ruled 'remain in Mexico' needs to be reinstated).

This makes absolutely zero sense. I'm going to assume you are at happy hour and not at work. "Statewide numbers don't tell the whole picture"? Then the detour to a topic not even addressed about immigration? Please try again to make the point more clearly.

4) You continue to illustrate that you lack a capacity to properly parse data since you don't like the way the Great State of Texas presents Texas-specific data.

I'm showing you exactly what the Texas Department of Health and Human Services is showing. You don't like screenshots and links to the actual data? Could that be because it doesn't fit your narrative? You're more than welcome to bring your own data to the table because so far you've made a bunch of claims like "tracking the ICU capacity daily" and yada yada yada but showing no evidence. Please tell me again that 93% ICU capacity utilization across the state and 50% Covid usage (of the ICU) is not statistically significant when it's beyond all but 4-5 states in the country, by a sizable margin. It's near equal Florida at the moment.

Here's your chance...prove me wrong but please bring evidence not claims to the conversation. Hint, on that same site are individual facilities. Houston has 1 facility with 30 open ICU beds, while the rest are at or near 100% capacity. Of course, this is ALL NORMAL. That's how Houston medical centers operate, right? They operate at near or at 100% capacity all the time, or so you keep claiming without any data as evidence.

5) You ALSO continue to ignore that the fed numbers overlook/disregard the quack-in-a-box facility that have a few beds.

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

6) I will never understand why someone with no apparent connection to the State spends so much time on this board.

I've been here since 1999, Austin 360 before we all migrated to Hornfans. The political discussion used to be deep with strong debate skills. Still missing ScipioTex, Pheonix Horn and those like them dearly (RIP all). It was a time when respectful conversations of people from a variety of backgrounds were the norm on West Mall.
 
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It was a time when respectful conversations of people from a variety of backgrounds were the norm on West Mall.
Wish in one hand, poop in the other. See which one fills up faster. Cause that ship sailed.
 
Husker….MB is right….This is from an article last year on Khou—CBS Houston


“The average ICU occupancy rate at the world's largest medical center is 70 to 80 percent, but higher rates aren't unheard of.

"It is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s," Methodist Hospital CEO Dr. Marc Boom said. "That's how all hospitals operate."
 
Husker….MB is right….This is from an article last year on Khou—CBS Houston


“The average ICU occupancy rate at the world's largest medical center is 70 to 80 percent, but higher rates aren't unheard of.

"It is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s," Methodist Hospital CEO Dr. Marc Boom said. "That's how all hospitals operate."

Is Methodist Hospital the most prominent trauma hospital in the Houston area? I'd accept if for one hospital in the area as that is consistent with Seattle, LA, Boston or New York based on a review of the data but every hospital? That's not represented in any other major metropolitan area right now outside of the South.

Look at the data yourself. Generally speaking there is 1-2 hospitals bordering on 20% ICU capacity while all the others range around 50% availability. Not in the known COVID hotspots like Florida and Texas. That's the point. It's not normal to be near max for all the hospitals in a State, despite the contrary claims. I'm open to more data if anyone has it to present.
 
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Husker….MB is right….This is from an article last year on Khou—CBS Houston


“The average ICU occupancy rate at the world's largest medical center is 70 to 80 percent, but higher rates aren't unheard of.

"It is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s," Methodist Hospital CEO Dr. Marc Boom said. "That's how all hospitals operate."
Gee, I said that somewhere. Imagine that, hospitals want a lot of sick people so they can make more money. Shocking.
 
This thread is a train wreck thanks to SH. Vaccines and especially the future boosters will end up deadly for some people. Watch the video I posted of people’s condition after taking it. The Vears report is at 11K deaths or so at around 1% reporting. That means there could be, might be, over 1 million deaths from vaccines, but yea take that booster clot shot!
 

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