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Seattle Husker said:
As a vaccinated person, I've been a bit bitter about some incentives only applied to those who get vaccinated for the incentive. Incentivizing a person to hold out hope for a bigger incentive is a bit odd.

For 1000 employees...a .1% chance at a $50k bonus, simply for being vaccinated? Neither the odds nor reward are disincentives to me.
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But you're not the target audience for the raffle. Someone who's too lazy to get vaccinated or doesn't believe it to be effective seems like the kind of person to say 0.1% chance to win money isn't worth the effort either.

Mr. Deez said:
Isn't it a masculine/feminine thing?
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No. It's a spell it the way the want it (Aggie) or misspell it to annoy them (aggy).
 
n64ra said:
But you're not the target audience for the raffle. Someone who's too lazy to get vaccinated or doesn't believe it to be effective seems like the kind of person to say 0.1% chance to win money isn't worth the effort either.



No. It's a spell it the way the want it (Aggie) or misspell it to annoy them (aggy).
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So, since I'm not getting vaccinated, I'm lazy or believe it is not effective? Is that your stance here?
 
mb227 said:
Seems to be effective if you want a positive test result...
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My understanding of the definition of vaccine is it creates acquired immunity to defeat a virus if it enters the body, not maybe lessening the symptoms of illness. So, again I'm wondering why the non lazy people here seem to think this is an effective vaccine.

Can't get an answer other than that I'm lazy, which is a ****** thing I doubt someone would have the cajones to say to me directly, as that would really go against social norms. Then again, so does "vaccine" shaming, but that's where we are.
 
horninchicago said:
My understanding of the definition of vaccine is it creates acquired immunity to defeat a virus if it enters the body, not maybe lessening the symptoms of illness. So, again I'm wondering why the non lazy people here seem to think this is an effective vaccine.

Can't get an answer other than that I'm lazy, which is a ****** thing I doubt someone would have the cajones to say to me directly, as that would really go against social norms. Then again, so does "vaccine" shaming, but that's where we are.
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So, because of the immunology discussion of "immunity vs. lessening symptoms," your mistrust in its effectiveness means you won't get it, correct? There is no analysis of data that would change your mind, like the fact that vaccinated persons make up 0.005% of those hospitalized with it?
 
Horns11 said:
So, because of the immunology discussion of "immunity vs. lessening symptoms," your mistrust in its effectiveness means you won't get it, correct? There is no analysis of data that would change your mind, like the fact that vaccinated persons make up 0.005% of those hospitalized with it?
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I had covid. I don't feel threatened by it, just as I don't with the flu shot every year. So, I'm not getting it. If I get the rona again, I'll just deal with it. How do I really know if it lessens the symptoms. Cold be a big ole drug company, FDA, corrupt politician shell game that a bunch of people fall for. Or not. Who knows?

If I get symptoms of an allergen that effects me, I take Claritin. I think it works, but who knows?
 
I hear someone in this thread is saying I am more childish than a high schooler.

Let me explain again when I say that someone wouldn't have the balls to say that to me directly. It doesn't mean I am going to respond to words with fisticuffs. It just means simply what I said, you wouldn't have the balls. Also, it would go against social norms to do that, but you have no problem saying that here in the written word.

And, unless you are even more dense than you seem to be, you must know you are on Ignore. But, you always quoted Joe Fan even though it was well known he had you on Ignore as well

So, why don't you move along from your blind side insults here, okay?
 
horninchicago said:
I had covid. I don't feel threatened by it, just as I don't with the flu shot every year. So, I'm not getting it. If I get the rona again, I'll just deal with it. How do I really know if it lessens the symptoms. Cold be a big ole drug company, FDA, corrupt politician shell game that a bunch of people fall for. Or not. Who knows?

If I get symptoms of an allergen that effects me, I take Claritin. I think it works, but who knows?
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So... no medical advice, prescription, or recommendation takes priority over the gut instinct of dealing with it?
 
Horns11 said:
So... no medical advice, prescription, or recommendation takes priority over the gut instinct of dealing with it?
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Why are you so concerned with what I do or don't do? I'm not trying to get anyone to not get the shot. Why are you trying to convince I should? At least, it seems like you are. Maybe you are just a really warm human being. Thank you. But, yes, I'll deal with it.

Oh, there are plenty of medical people, who are quickly dismissed, who say not top get this shot.
 
Maybe when the medical experts here tell me why this shot is a vaccine and not just a shot, they can tell me if my theory that the body adapts to things like Claritin over time and it is good to switch periodically. After all, we have a lot of medical experts here.

I wonder if that comes across as too childish for the sensitive people here.
 
horninchicago said:
Pilots, even lazy ones like me, have to take something that says "NonDrowsy". Claritin fits that bill. But, I had taken Zyrtec several years ago until I realized the non drowsy criterium.
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MOST people don't realize that the FWI rules are far more stringent than the DWI or BWI rules. No alcohol in the eight hours before flying. Even a .02 is cause for the FAA to yank the certification. And that is before getting into the carrier's own sets of rules for the pilots...
 
When can we call this Covid 20? Or does that remind people that there have been Covids before and more Covids coming? And that Vaccine life is forever?
....like a Microsoft update.
 
mb227 said:
MOST people don't realize that the FWI rules are far more stringent than the DWI or BWI rules. No alcohol in the eight hours before flying. Even a .02 is cause for the FAA to yank the certification. And that is before getting into the carrier's own sets of rules for the pilots...
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.04, but what do you know, you're just a lawyer.

:fiestanana:

And, true, many carriers have a 12 hour rule vs. the FAR 8 hour rule.
 
horninchicago said:
.04, but what do you know, you're just a lawyer.

:fiestanana:

And, true, many carriers have a 12 hour rule vs. the FAR 8 hour rule.
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Oooh...it changed. When I was working on my private certification, they drilled .02 into the head. Either that or private is actually more stringent than commercial...which I would not put past the federal government...
 
Creek said:
When can we call this Covid 20? Or does that remind people that there have been Covids before and more Covids coming? And that Vaccine life is forever?
....like a Microsoft update.
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Does that make adverse events the real-life version of a BSOD?
 
mb227 said:
Oooh...it changed. When I was working on my private certification, they drilled .02 into the head. Either that or private is actually more stringent than commercial...which I would not put past the federal government...
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It has been .04 since I stared training in 1995.

FAR 91.17 (a)(4):

While having an alcohol concentration of 0.04 or greater in a blood or breath specimen. Alcohol concentration means grams of alcohol per deciliter of blood or grams of alcohol per 210 liters of breath.
 
horninchicago said:
Pilots, even lazy ones like me, have to take something that says "Non Drowsy". Claritin fits that bill. But, I had taken Zyrtec several years ago until I realized the non drowsy criterium.
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Does Zyrtec cause drowsiness, or does it just not say "non-drowsy?" I've never noticed it to make my drowsy.

Now Benadryl is another matter. It works pretty well, but it absolutely knocks me on my ***.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Does Zyrtec cause drowsiness, or does it just not say "non-drowsy?" I've never noticed it to make my drowsy.

Now Benadryl is another matter. It works pretty well, but it absolutely knocks me on my ***.
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Good question. If the label does not indicate non drowsy in some manner and I have an accident or incident that would somehow determine I had taken something like Zyrtec, well, I'll be cited with 91.13(a), careless and reckless operation, the FAA catch all when they want to come after you.
 
horninchicago said:
Good question. If the label does not indicate non drowsy in some manner and I have an accident or incident that would somehow determine I had taken something like Zyrtec, well, I'll be cited with 91.13(a), careless and reckless operation, the FAA catch all when they want to come after you.
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After any accident/incident do they force a piss test on you? That is if you're still alive of course.
 
Garmel said:
After any accident/incident do they force a piss test on you? That is if you're still alive of course.
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Yes.

The captain I flew Lears (similar to pic) with in 2003 taxied the jet's wing tip tank into a fuel truck. I had to go take a Whiz Quiz even though I didn't do it.

bombardier-learjet-35a-1.jpg
 
Horns11 said:
So... no medical advice, prescription, or recommendation takes priority over the gut instinct of dealing with it?
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Your poking at HIC for not taking the vax would be like me (or anyone) poking at you for not buying as much stock as possible in Grainger and other manufacturing material source based companies after Trump took office. "After all, this is the way to make an easy killing "

Senseless. It's so silly, putting your nose in others business. Petty even
 
Horn2RunAgain said:
Your poking at HIC for not taking the vax would be like me (or anyone) poking at you for not buying as much stock as possible in Grainger and other manufacturing material source based companies after Trump took office. "After all, this is the way to make an easy killing "

Senseless. It's so silly, putting your nose in others business. Petty even
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Well, and he didn't answer me as to why he he is poking, I like the pun by the way, at me about this.
 
horninchicago said:
Good question. If the label does not indicate non drowsy in some manner and I have an accident or incident that would somehow determine I had taken something like Zyrtec, well, I'll be cited with 91.13(a), careless and reckless operation, the FAA catch all when they want to come after you.
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I see. Makes sense.
 
horninchicago said:
I hear someone in this thread is saying I am more childish than a high schooler.

Let me explain again when I say that someone wouldn't have the balls to say that to me directly. It doesn't mean I am going to respond to words with fisticuffs. It just means simply what I said, you wouldn't have the balls. Also, it would go against social norms to do that, but you have no problem saying that here in the written word.

And, unless you are even more dense than you seem to be, you must know you are on Ignore. But, you always quoted Joe Fan even though it was well known he had you on Ignore as well

So, why don't you move along from your blind side insults here, okay?
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BS logic often sprouts legs on the West Mall. If you practice in BS I'll point it out just like I did for @JoeFan because there is more than 1 West Mall participant that will share the BS as fact elsewhere.

Consider it a community service to improve your logic skills. Yes, I would say that to your face albeit with a handshake and pay for your beer.

If my own logic is faulty it's not an insult if someone demonstrates it to me. That's part of taking in new information and revisiting beliefs.
 
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